<strong>I would love for my Soundblaster Live to be supported in OS X.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, given that Creative Labs builds that thing, markets it, and finally gets your money when you buy it, wouldn't you think it should be their task to also offer OS X drivers for it?
The good thing is, once new Macs ship with X only, CL will either have to write those X drivers, or they won't really be able to market it as the "SB Live Mac Edition" any more.
Do you really think that beefing up OSX is going to increase Apple's market share? Would adding support for sound filters (or whatever) really bring in new customers?
Apple's strategy, which I think is brilliant, is to give more people reasons to buy Macs. Simple. I think a cool iCam or iVideo or whatever would convince some people, perhaps whole new markets, to adopt the Mac over Windoze. That sells more computers. That makes more money. The Shareholders are happy. The Users are happy. Steve Jobs is happy.
Actually, if Glove is for real, then NECC (National Education Computing Conference) might be an ideal time to announce it. Many of the schools are still reeling from the knowledge that any any time, Microsoft can basically unlimited amounts of money subject only to its greed and the bad PR.
[Basically no school can afford to ensure license compliance in a manner that is acceptable to the courts. Hence every school is guilty of large scale software piracy and subject to the massive penalties if and when MS commands the BSA to audit the schools.]
Certainly Apple could use a little good PR in the education department, and Glove would give it to them.
<strong>What if the camera had a 10 GB HD, AND a G4 CPU so that one could encode using a QT codec on the fly? I don't know the compression offhand, but wouldn't that allow for HOURS of video footage to be stored on 10 GB? Would it be difficult to build a small mobo+CPU unit that was specialized at compressing DV on the fly in real time? Would such a beast even need a G4? Would a G3 work? Would the iPod's CPUs work?
EDIT: is that what you mean, plague bearer, by oflineRT?
yep, As many of you know, The majority of the PPC family are embeded high speed processors customizes to handle a limited number of tasks VERY quickly. If a G4 family embeded I/C were programmed to do in firmware what FCP does in software... then you are looking at about 6.6 hours of video in compressed format. or about 45 minutes of video in uncompressed format which would still be all right unless you are shooting a long event. And as for stills, don't expect better than about 1.3 megapixel, Sorry but the ccd's for video just don't allow for much over that. (thats based on Canons experiences with still / video hybrids) A jack of all trades is a master of none. you won't get 6Mpx out of a video camera. you won't get 30Fps out of a Still camera.
I've been saying this for some time as well... I think Steve made too big a deal about the 'issues' he was having with that camera demo. It almost seemed (to me) a bit staged...
The man knows computers for goodness sakes and he's not exactly shy when it comes to getting up on stage. That not luck, it comes from knowing what you are doing (plus lots of practice) and I'm pretty sure Steve wouldn't be the type to get on stage an use a product he doesn't know how to operate. Unless that is he was trying to set things up for a future product event.
I've been saying this for some time as well... I think Steve made too big a deal about the 'issues' he was having with that camera demo. It almost seemed (to me) a bit staged...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't think Steve made a big deal about it at all. I think everyone else, in remembering it incorrectly and exagerating his reaction, is making a big deal about it. Still, as someone who has done presentations in front of an entire store full of people, if something SHOULD work a certain way for a demo and doesn't, it IS quite frustrating.
Really, either email the picture to someone anonymously or tell us about it in detail. Enough of this "leave your server on for a few weeks and I will upload it to you sometime" crap. Might as well just burn the info to a CD, hide it near some street corner and give us hints as to where to find it. Sorry, but after reading that last post I'm now thinking this is just a bunch of BS. He goes from not knowing anything about hiding his identity on the internet to giving us detailed and complicated instructions on how to do so. Something smells fishy here. Hmmmm....
<strong>I don't think Steve made a big deal about it at all. I think everyone else, in remembering it incorrectly and exagerating his reaction, is making a big deal about it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was in attendance and I remember it quite well. He couldn't turn the thing on and gave it one or two half hearted tries and then tossed the camera to someone in the first row (Apple folks usually/always?) fill the 1st row I think.
Anyway was Steve all alone on stage? NOBODY could have come out from behind the curtain to help in the case of 'issues'? I'm sure people are at the ready for just such events... Instead he tosses the camera to someone totally off stage? Seems kinda strange to me... Unless he wanted to make it a CRYSTAL CLEAR point that it was the camera having issues and ***NOT*** OS X.
Now that could very well be and does make equal sence as to why he would have someone in the audience deal with the camera. Remember Bill Gates and his demo of p-n-p... It could very well be that Steve has flashes of that in his mind and said lets get this non-working camera AWAY from me AND FAST!
Really, either email the picture to someone anonymously or tell us about it in detail. Enough of this "leave your server on for a few weeks and I will upload it to you sometime" crap. Might as well just burn the info to a CD, hide it near some street corner and give us hints as to where to find it. Sorry, but after reading that last post I'm now thinking this is just a bunch of BS. He goes from not knowing anything about hiding his identity on the internet to giving us detailed and complicated instructions on how to do so. Something smells fishy here. Hmmmm....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why is everyone complaining instead of just giving it a try... it won't hurt, will it.
It will if he turns your computer into a pirated movie server or something. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh, come on... there must be somebody out there with a spare computer and the knowledge on how to set it up with a quota of maybe 2 MB - sufficent for the picture in question, too small for most illegal things - that allows incoming traffic only. I guess it's not all that hard.
Oh, come on... there must be somebody out there with a spare computer and the knowledge on how to set it up with a quota of maybe 2 MB - sufficent for the picture in question, too small for most illegal things - that allows incoming traffic only. I guess it's not all that hard.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not hard at all... I could do it in a few minutes but here are the problems...
I don't have the post count to qualify
I have a OC3 line where I work but wouldn't dream of posting that as a place (sorry my job means something more than a photo)
I only have 56k dialup at home.
Other issues:
Always on usually comes in two flavors:
Cable - NO SERVERS + BLOCKED PORTS
DSL - USUALLY NO SERVERS + BLOCKED PORTS
Best we could hope for is someone at a .edu where they don't block 21 (ftp) inbound traffic.
Boy will Steve be pissed at you guys if you spoil his followup to the 25-foot digi-cam toss! This will of course not prevent me from watching this thread to EXPLODE should said photograph be produced....knowing the latest & greatest is still addicting! There's no way that I'd risk getting caught breaking my NDA just to tease the uber-fans, but to each his own.
He could always leave it on a computer at his local Apple store or upload it to the public folder on Steve's iDisk. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
i still have that hotline server set up, although at the moment it's not running.
there are a handful of select AI members who have usernames and passwords.
i could set up a username/password for you allen mcjones, and then let you upload it to the server.
the IP changes every time i restart, and i'm not about to run one of those DNS sync. programs. just let me know a day or two ahead of time and i'll leave it up and running and give you the IP. i'll just have to be sure not to restart.
do you have an anonymous e-mail address you could check that i could send your username and password info to? you could just check it that one time then let it die for all i care. i'd send you the IP then as well.
let me know if you're interested. either post here or send a message to my hotmail e-mail account and include my username in the message, or it will die as spam.
-alcimedes
p.s. i may not have 1000+ posts, but that's cause of the damn blackout a while back, and i have a job so can't fart around all day on the boards.
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[ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: DaveGee ]</p>
<strong>I would love for my Soundblaster Live to be supported in OS X.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, given that Creative Labs builds that thing, markets it, and finally gets your money when you buy it, wouldn't you think it should be their task to also offer OS X drivers for it?
The good thing is, once new Macs ship with X only, CL will either have to write those X drivers, or they won't really be able to market it as the "SB Live Mac Edition" any more.
Bye,
RazzFazz
Where's the beef!
Let's see this pic!
Do you really think that beefing up OSX is going to increase Apple's market share? Would adding support for sound filters (or whatever) really bring in new customers?
Apple's strategy, which I think is brilliant, is to give more people reasons to buy Macs. Simple. I think a cool iCam or iVideo or whatever would convince some people, perhaps whole new markets, to adopt the Mac over Windoze. That sells more computers. That makes more money. The Shareholders are happy. The Users are happy. Steve Jobs is happy.
[Basically no school can afford to ensure license compliance in a manner that is acceptable to the courts. Hence every school is guilty of large scale software piracy and subject to the massive penalties if and when MS commands the BSA to audit the schools.]
Certainly Apple could use a little good PR in the education department, and Glove would give it to them.
Steve's coming on stage at mwny and say:
Remember last year when i throw a camera away?
...
<strong>What if the camera had a 10 GB HD, AND a G4 CPU so that one could encode using a QT codec on the fly? I don't know the compression offhand, but wouldn't that allow for HOURS of video footage to be stored on 10 GB? Would it be difficult to build a small mobo+CPU unit that was specialized at compressing DV on the fly in real time? Would such a beast even need a G4? Would a G3 work? Would the iPod's CPUs work?
EDIT: is that what you mean, plague bearer, by oflineRT?
[ 05-27-2002: Message edited by: Junkyard Dawg ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
yep, As many of you know, The majority of the PPC family are embeded high speed processors customizes to handle a limited number of tasks VERY quickly. If a G4 family embeded I/C were programmed to do in firmware what FCP does in software... then you are looking at about 6.6 hours of video in compressed format. or about 45 minutes of video in uncompressed format which would still be all right unless you are shooting a long event. And as for stills, don't expect better than about 1.3 megapixel, Sorry but the ccd's for video just don't allow for much over that. (thats based on Canons experiences with still / video hybrids) A jack of all trades is a master of none. you won't get 6Mpx out of a video camera. you won't get 30Fps out of a Still camera.
<strong>Let's imagine...
Steve's coming on stage at mwny and say:
Remember last year when i throw a camera away?
...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I've been saying this for some time as well... I think Steve made too big a deal about the 'issues' he was having with that camera demo. It almost seemed (to me) a bit staged...
The man knows computers for goodness sakes and he's not exactly shy when it comes to getting up on stage. That not luck, it comes from knowing what you are doing (plus lots of practice) and I'm pretty sure Steve wouldn't be the type to get on stage an use a product he doesn't know how to operate. Unless that is he was trying to set things up for a future product event.
Then again it could nothing....
Dave
[ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: DaveGee ]</p>
<strong>
I've been saying this for some time as well... I think Steve made too big a deal about the 'issues' he was having with that camera demo. It almost seemed (to me) a bit staged...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't think Steve made a big deal about it at all. I think everyone else, in remembering it incorrectly and exagerating his reaction, is making a big deal about it. Still, as someone who has done presentations in front of an entire store full of people, if something SHOULD work a certain way for a demo and doesn't, it IS quite frustrating.
[ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: clonenode ]</p>
<strong>Comeon!
Where's the beef!
Let's see this pic!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Really, either email the picture to someone anonymously or tell us about it in detail. Enough of this "leave your server on for a few weeks and I will upload it to you sometime" crap. Might as well just burn the info to a CD, hide it near some street corner and give us hints as to where to find it. Sorry, but after reading that last post I'm now thinking this is just a bunch of BS. He goes from not knowing anything about hiding his identity on the internet to giving us detailed and complicated instructions on how to do so. Something smells fishy here. Hmmmm....
My question to him is; Why? Why are you doing this? Why tease us with these details? Why mess with Apple like this? Why?
<strong>I don't think Steve made a big deal about it at all. I think everyone else, in remembering it incorrectly and exagerating his reaction, is making a big deal about it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was in attendance and I remember it quite well. He couldn't turn the thing on and gave it one or two half hearted tries and then tossed the camera to someone in the first row (Apple folks usually/always?) fill the 1st row I think.
Anyway was Steve all alone on stage? NOBODY could have come out from behind the curtain to help in the case of 'issues'? I'm sure people are at the ready for just such events... Instead he tosses the camera to someone totally off stage? Seems kinda strange to me... Unless he wanted to make it a CRYSTAL CLEAR point that it was the camera having issues and ***NOT*** OS X.
Now that could very well be and does make equal sence as to why he would have someone in the audience deal with the camera. Remember Bill Gates and his demo of p-n-p... It could very well be that Steve has flashes of that in his mind and said lets get this non-working camera AWAY from me AND FAST!
Dave
<strong>
Really, either email the picture to someone anonymously or tell us about it in detail. Enough of this "leave your server on for a few weeks and I will upload it to you sometime" crap. Might as well just burn the info to a CD, hide it near some street corner and give us hints as to where to find it. Sorry, but after reading that last post I'm now thinking this is just a bunch of BS. He goes from not knowing anything about hiding his identity on the internet to giving us detailed and complicated instructions on how to do so. Something smells fishy here. Hmmmm....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why is everyone complaining instead of just giving it a try... it won't hurt, will it.
<strong>
Why is everyone complaining instead of just giving it a try... it won't hurt, will it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It will if he turns your computer into a pirated movie server or something. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
<strong>
It will if he turns your computer into a pirated movie server or something. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh, come on... there must be somebody out there with a spare computer and the knowledge on how to set it up with a quota of maybe 2 MB - sufficent for the picture in question, too small for most illegal things - that allows incoming traffic only. I guess it's not all that hard.
<strong>
Oh, come on... there must be somebody out there with a spare computer and the knowledge on how to set it up with a quota of maybe 2 MB - sufficent for the picture in question, too small for most illegal things - that allows incoming traffic only. I guess it's not all that hard.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not hard at all... I could do it in a few minutes but here are the problems...
I don't have the post count to qualify
I have a OC3 line where I work but wouldn't dream of posting that as a place (sorry my job means something more than a photo)
I only have 56k dialup at home.
Other issues:
Always on usually comes in two flavors:
Cable - NO SERVERS + BLOCKED PORTS
DSL - USUALLY NO SERVERS + BLOCKED PORTS
Best we could hope for is someone at a .edu where they don't block 21 (ftp) inbound traffic.
Pretty limiting...
Dave
So come on then, I want to see this thing!
Have at it sir!
D
[edit] DYNDNS Appears to be free??? [/edit]
[ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: NoahJ ]</p>
there are a handful of select AI members who have usernames and passwords.
i could set up a username/password for you allen mcjones, and then let you upload it to the server.
the IP changes every time i restart, and i'm not about to run one of those DNS sync. programs. just let me know a day or two ahead of time and i'll leave it up and running and give you the IP. i'll just have to be sure not to restart.
do you have an anonymous e-mail address you could check that i could send your username and password info to? you could just check it that one time then let it die for all i care. i'd send you the IP then as well.
let me know if you're interested. either post here or send a message to my hotmail e-mail account and include my username in the message, or it will die as spam.
-alcimedes
p.s. i may not have 1000+ posts, but that's cause of the damn blackout a while back, and i have a job so can't fart around all day on the boards.
i'm sure a few 1000+ members will vouch for me.