Heh, I'm in the same time zone as Paris, so I'll arrive at work, do some stuff and then keep reloading news sites. With some luck (Powerbook G5), I'll be one of the first to hit the "buy now" button.
Steve Jobs will be giving the keynote address at 10 a.m. CET (3 a.m. EDT)
that makes it midnight pacific time.
is that a typo or is that the real time?
they also imply that the 12 inch PowerBooks will not have illuminated keyboards. I really want that feature!!! It's pointless for Apple to cripple the 12 inch. I currently have a 15 inch PB, and I don't need the big screen size, I prefer portability, so I'm getting the 12 inch regardless. They should just put illuminated keyboard across the board on all portable machines
I'll get up for it and watch it...have my dad's credit card in hand and refreshing apple.com/store and whatever site is giving a play by play update of what is going on (anyone know if any site is doing this?)
If you give me your dad's credit card, I'll do a personal live update just for you on iChat AV
...they also imply that the 12 inch PowerBooks will not have illuminated keyboards. I really want that feature!!! It's pointless for Apple to cripple the 12 inch. I currently have a 15 inch PB, and I don't need the big screen size, I prefer portability, so I'm getting the 12 inch regardless. They should just put illuminated keyboard across the board on all portable machines
I like the illuminated keyboard and hope it will be in the 15" Al PB I'm planning on getting. I understand it has enormous coolness factor. However, as a practical matter, for those of you who have the 17" Al PB, is it really much different from using one of those little USB powered fly lights?
they also imply that the 12 inch PowerBooks will not have illuminated keyboards. I really want that feature!!! It's pointless for Apple to cripple the 12 inch. I currently have a 15 inch PB, and I don't need the big screen size, I prefer portability, so I'm getting the 12 inch regardless. They should just put illuminated keyboard across the board on all portable machines
Apple is not crippling the PowerBook 12", IMHO. For most intents and purposes, it is an iBook G4 (iBook G4 wanters, read this too):
* It costs only $100 more then the 14" model
* It has the same memory layout as the iBook (128MB soldered, 640MB max)
* Except for the Aluminium, it looks and feels like an iBook
* iBelieve it has the same speakers too
* It has no L3 cache, like the iBook
* I bet it has the same screen as the iBook 12"
* Same latch too, I think
* VGA port
* It has no time battery, like the iBook
I don't think the PowerBook 12" was deliberately crippled by Apple; it was a bit of a rush job, and because of the Aluminium, G4, price, and optional SuperDrive they called it a PowerBook.
that's true, but at the same time, they did change the keyboard on the 12 inch to match the aluminum color. wouldn't it have been easier to design one new keyboard and use it on the 17 and on the 12? Apple instead went out of it's way to make a grey keyboard without the ambient light sensors for the 12 inch.
Certainly interesting, and fun to read. But I don't think I'm quite ready to roll everything in to astrological-based Mac rumor predictions.
Still though...
That leads me to a question: for those of us anxiously waiting for updated PowerBooks, how would you react to this scenario:
- PowerBooks announced, G5-based(!)...BUT, not shipping until mid-November (which, as we all know, is Apple code for "early 2004").
Would you wait it out, now KNOWING one is coming. Or would your life/work/school needs require you to get whatever is available now (no Rev. B 12" and 17", mind you...same models/specs that are available today).
Wow, what a dilemma (did I spell that right?). For goons such as myself, I could easily wait since I have this nice iMac and my job or school situation doesn't require that I own a laptop. But those of you who do, that would be tough.
I don't see how PowerBooks COULDN'T me announced in Paris. People are absolutely near the breaking point in many cases (ahem...) and after WWDC, Seybold and a few prime "standalone announcement" opportunities, if Paris doesn't produce...it'll be a bloodbath, I tell ya!
that's true, but at the same time, they did change the keyboard on the 12 inch to match the aluminum color. wouldn't it have been easier to design one new keyboard and use it on the 17 and on the 12? Apple instead went out of it's way to make a grey keyboard without the ambient light sensors for the 12 inch.
I don't know. That stinks. Not that I want one (I'm happy with the iBook), but it's bad anyway.
"Based on the available information as well as some new unconfirmed information, it seems the following releases seem probable, based on the current pieces of the rumor puzzle:
$1999 - 15" PowerBook, 1GHz G4, up to 2GB RAM, 64MB Video RAM
$2?99 - 15" PowerBook, 1.25GHz G4, up to 2GB RAM, 64MB Video RAM
$2999 - 17" PowerBook, 1.25GHz G4
Disclaimer: This is based on both rumors and speculation."
The 2 GB RAM max is very nice, but where's my dual G4 17"?
Comments
Originally posted by C-Bear
All right, so technically the Paris Keynote Address will occur 1AM (U.S. West Coast), Tuesday September 17th, yes?
01:00 US West Coast - Tuesday September 16
Steve Jobs will be giving the keynote address at 10 a.m. CET (3 a.m. EDT)
that makes it midnight pacific time.
is that a typo or is that the real time?
they also imply that the 12 inch PowerBooks will not have illuminated keyboards. I really want that feature!!! It's pointless for Apple to cripple the 12 inch. I currently have a 15 inch PB, and I don't need the big screen size, I prefer portability, so I'm getting the 12 inch regardless. They should just put illuminated keyboard across the board on all portable machines
Originally posted by ast3r3x
I'll get up for it and watch it...have my dad's credit card in hand and refreshing apple.com/store and whatever site is giving a play by play update of what is going on (anyone know if any site is doing this?)
If you give me your dad's credit card, I'll do a personal live update just for you on iChat AV
Originally posted by popmetal
...they also imply that the 12 inch PowerBooks will not have illuminated keyboards. I really want that feature!!! It's pointless for Apple to cripple the 12 inch. I currently have a 15 inch PB, and I don't need the big screen size, I prefer portability, so I'm getting the 12 inch regardless. They should just put illuminated keyboard across the board on all portable machines
I like the illuminated keyboard and hope it will be in the 15" Al PB I'm planning on getting. I understand it has enormous coolness factor. However, as a practical matter, for those of you who have the 17" Al PB, is it really much different from using one of those little USB powered fly lights?
Originally posted by philby
If you give me your dad's credit card, I'll do a personal live update just for you on iChat AV
ok.. xxxx-xxxx-0x0x you can figure out the rest so these others don't get it
Originally posted by ast3r3x
ok.. xxxx-xxxx-0x0x you can figure out the rest so these others don't get it
Got it!
Originally posted by popmetal
they also imply that the 12 inch PowerBooks will not have illuminated keyboards. I really want that feature!!! It's pointless for Apple to cripple the 12 inch. I currently have a 15 inch PB, and I don't need the big screen size, I prefer portability, so I'm getting the 12 inch regardless. They should just put illuminated keyboard across the board on all portable machines
Apple is not crippling the PowerBook 12", IMHO. For most intents and purposes, it is an iBook G4 (iBook G4 wanters, read this too):
* It costs only $100 more then the 14" model
* It has the same memory layout as the iBook (128MB soldered, 640MB max)
* Except for the Aluminium, it looks and feels like an iBook
* iBelieve it has the same speakers too
* It has no L3 cache, like the iBook
* I bet it has the same screen as the iBook 12"
* Same latch too, I think
* VGA port
* It has no time battery, like the iBook
I don't think the PowerBook 12" was deliberately crippled by Apple; it was a bit of a rush job, and because of the Aluminium, G4, price, and optional SuperDrive they called it a PowerBook.
It's gonna be a long weekend!
Originally posted by Bill M
01:00 US West Coast - Tuesday September 16
(C-Bear checks calendar, realizes his mistake) Uh, yeah, that's what I meant. Must've hit the wrong key?
Still though...
That leads me to a question: for those of us anxiously waiting for updated PowerBooks, how would you react to this scenario:
- PowerBooks announced, G5-based(!)...BUT, not shipping until mid-November (which, as we all know, is Apple code for "early 2004").
Would you wait it out, now KNOWING one is coming. Or would your life/work/school needs require you to get whatever is available now (no Rev. B 12" and 17", mind you...same models/specs that are available today).
Wow, what a dilemma (did I spell that right?). For goons such as myself, I could easily wait since I have this nice iMac and my job or school situation doesn't require that I own a laptop. But those of you who do, that would be tough.
I don't see how PowerBooks COULDN'T me announced in Paris. People are absolutely near the breaking point in many cases (ahem...) and after WWDC, Seybold and a few prime "standalone announcement" opportunities, if Paris doesn't produce...it'll be a bloodbath, I tell ya!
Originally posted by pscates
Still though...
That leads me to a question: for those of us anxiously waiting for updated PowerBooks, how would you react to this scenario:
- PowerBooks announced, G5-based(!)...BUT, not shipping until mid-November (which, as we all know, is Apple code for "early 2004").
that would be PERFECT! exactly what I need.
I'd absolutely faint if the new PowerBooks weren't G4s!
Originally posted by popmetal
that's true, but at the same time, they did change the keyboard on the 12 inch to match the aluminum color. wouldn't it have been easier to design one new keyboard and use it on the 17 and on the 12? Apple instead went out of it's way to make a grey keyboard without the ambient light sensors for the 12 inch.
I don't know. That stinks. Not that I want one (I'm happy with the iBook), but it's bad anyway.
"Based on the available information as well as some new unconfirmed information, it seems the following releases seem probable, based on the current pieces of the rumor puzzle:
$1999 - 15" PowerBook, 1GHz G4, up to 2GB RAM, 64MB Video RAM
$2?99 - 15" PowerBook, 1.25GHz G4, up to 2GB RAM, 64MB Video RAM
$2999 - 17" PowerBook, 1.25GHz G4
Disclaimer: This is based on both rumors and speculation."
The 2 GB RAM max is very nice, but where's my dual G4 17"?
I'm not asking for a 10GHz G5 laptop, or anything, but a 1.25GHz G4 and no 12 inch PB would be just pathetic after all this waiting.
Apple doesn't update its desktop machines separately, so why would it do that to laptops?