The "WWDC Speculation" Thread

gregmightdothat · May 17, 2005 9:55AM

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Originally posted by gelosilente

and on the software side, i hope that apple finally ship opengl 2.0 and enable q2de

There aren't any OpenGL 2 compliant GPU's on the market- right now cards only support a subset of GLSL.

hmurchison · May 17, 2005 10:02AM

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Originally posted by gregmightdothat

There aren't any OpenGL 2 compliant GPU's on the market- right now cards only support a subset of GLSL.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce6_techspecs.html

API Support

Complete DirectX support, including the latest version of Microsoft DirectX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0

Full OpenGL support, including OpenGL 2.0

Been this way for a while now.

pb · May 17, 2005 10:18AM

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Originally posted by hmurchison

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce6_techspecs.html

API Support

Complete DirectX support, including the latest version of Microsoft DirectX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0

Full OpenGL support, including OpenGL 2.0

Been this way for a while now.

Right, before Tiger's release I had hope for OpenGL 2. And for a GeForce 6200 in the new iMacs

(not the turbocache version) .

gregmightdothat · May 17, 2005 12:45PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hmurchison

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce6_techspecs.html

API Support

Complete DirectX support, including the latest version of Microsoft DirectX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0

Full OpenGL support, including OpenGL 2.0

Been this way for a while now.

Right, but the card itself doesn't support all of GLSL... the drivers handle anything complicated on the CPU still. OpenGL 2 is still vaporware.

hmurchison · May 17, 2005 1:06PM

I'm not surprised. OGL 2.0 has been absolutely glacial. If Microsoft has kicked butt anywhere it's here with DirectX pretty much eating OGL's lunch. It's a shame really.

kickaha · May 17, 2005 1:42PM

MS can thank Nvidia for that DirectX buttkickingness.

dhagan4755 · May 17, 2005 7:56PM

I guess I'm being a real downer today, but I think the WWDC is going to be dud.

tedndi · May 17, 2005 8:17PM

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Originally posted by DHagan4755

I guess I'm being a real downer today, but I think the WWDC is going to be dud.

I don't think so.

I have no proof of this assertion. Let's see what little nuggets Steve J. Drops next week at the all things digital conference.

Then we shall have more clues.

Cell is still out there

and the crypto message about sony/apple.

The year of HD.

no, I think things are in the works.

rhumgod · May 17, 2005 9:01PM

Something has to be in the works. The last 3 WWDCs have brought us good things (hardware-wise):

2004 - New LCDs (including 30" model)

2003 - Power Mac G5s

2002 - xServes

So yes, something is in the works. What, we can only speculate on.

dhagan4755 · May 17, 2005 9:46PM

Outside of new iBooks, which I don't think would be shown at WWDC, what do you guys think is an absolute lock for the WWDC?

Also, what do you think will be the least exciting new product announcement?

bazad · May 17, 2005 9:46PM

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Originally posted by DHagan4755

I guess I'm being a real downer today, but I think the WWDC is going to be dud.

That's what Steve wants you to think. You guys are tired of G5 powerbook waiting time. Think about it. Some of you predicted it over a year ago.

aquamac · May 17, 2005 11:07PM

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Originally posted by DHagan4755

I guess I'm being a real downer today, but I think the WWDC is going to be dud.

If there is no HD product anouncement in the 'Year of HD' then your right. Jobs would not say that unless ther was a rabbit under his hat or something.

beigeuser · May 17, 2005 11:25PM

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Originally posted by AquaMac

If there is no HD product anouncement in the 'Year of HD' then your right. Jobs would not say that unless ther was a rabbit under his hat or something.

Did something significant happen during the year of the laptop?

rhumgod · May 17, 2005 11:42PM

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Originally posted by bazad

That's what Steve wants you to think. You guys are tired of G5 powerbook waiting time. Think about it. Some of you predicted it over a year ago.

Only because we saw the PowerBook specs that listed it as having the 970fx way back in Mac OS X 10.3.5.

idave · May 17, 2005 11:42PM

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Originally posted by BeigeUser

Did something significant happen during the year of the laptop?

Yeah, the 12" and 17" PowerBooks were released in January of that year. This year a bunch of HD software was released at NAB, making this the year of HD.

rhumgod · May 17, 2005 11:43PM

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Originally posted by BeigeUser

Did something significant happen during the year of the laptop?

More PowerBook/iBook sales than PowerMac/iMac sales?

junkyard dawg · May 18, 2005 1:06AM

Warning: LONG.

How about a laptop shakedown at WWDC? I don't believe much of this will happen, but it's nice to dream. The iBooks get a nice bump, but the Powerbooks return after a few years of Powerlessbooks with an ultra-portable 10.6" Powerbook G5 on the low end (with a video chipset capable of driving a cinema display), and a dual-core G5 20" Lapzilla at the high end. All Powerbooks support HD resolutions natively, even the 10.6" Powerbook. The Lapzilla is basically a portable desktop that eats batteries and depresses sperm counts.

iBook

$799

1.6 GHz G4

12.1", 1024 x 768

NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 with 64MB of DDR SDRAM

80GB Ultra ATA drive, 4200 rpm

Combo drive

$999

1.8 GHz G4

14" widescreen, 1280 x 768

NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 with 64MB of DDR SDRAM

80GB Ultra ATA drive, 5400 rpm

Combo drive

$1199

1.8 GHz G4

14" widescreen, 1280 x 768

NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 with 64MB of DDR SDRAM

100GB Ultra ATA drive, 5400 rpm

Superdrive

Powerbook HD

$1499

1.8 GHz G5 (PPC 970gx)

10.6" widescreen, 1280 x 768

ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 64MB of DDR SDRAM. Available with 128MB of DDR SDRAM

80GB HD, 5400 rpm

Combo drive

$1699

2.0 GHz G5 (PPC 970gx)

10.6" widescreen, 1280 x 768

ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 128MB of DDR SDRAM. Available with 128MB of DDR SDRAM and dual-link DVI as BTO option.

100GB HD, 5400 rpm

Superdrive

$1999

2.0 GHz G5 (PPC 970gx)

15.4" widescreen, 1440 x 900

ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 256MB of DDR SDRAM and dual-link DVI as BTO option.

120GB HD, 5400 rpm

Superdrive

$2499

2.0 GHz dual-core G5 (PPC 970mp)

17" widescreen, 1680 x 1050

ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 256MB of DDR SDRAM and dual-link DVI

120GB HD, 5400 rpm

Superdrive

$2999

2.2 GHz dual-core G5 (PPC 970mp)

20" widescreen, 1920 x 1200

ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 256MB of DDR SDRAM and dual-link DVI

120GB HD, 7200 rpm

Superdrive

emig647 · May 18, 2005 2:18AM

No offense,

But you are on crack about the 10" powerbook with a g5. Think about that heat? The thing would LITERALLY burn your skin.

junkyard dawg · May 18, 2005 3:02AM

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Originally posted by emig647

No offense,

But you are on crack about the 10" powerbook with a g5. Think about that heat? The thing would LITERALLY burn your skin.

Yep, we heard the same thing about a G4 laptop back in the Pismo days.

Obviously, such a laptop would need a low-power G5, thus the "PPC 970gx" designation I used.

With regard to smoking crack, I refer you to this sentence in my post:

Quote:

I don't believe much of this will happen, but it's nice to dream.

onstage · May 18, 2005 7:55AM

Junkyard Dawg, I hope your so crazy that your right. Those are the kinds of notebooks apple needs to have if they want to grow.

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