Why are people obsessed by 1080p when most people can't tell the difference? LCD are progressive by nature, and 1080p only gets noticable over 50".
A part of it too is if you were to deinterlace 1080i you woud really be watching 540P. Even less than 720P.Which the the reason why several HD broadcasts are made in 720P.
No 1080P is noticeable on screens smaller than 50 inch. If you are doing your comparison in Best Buy then I guess it could be hard to tell amongst the crappy pictures.
How much help does Sony need to get their freakin' product out the door. Forget late june we're looking at August 15th now for the Sony player.
You guys do know that members of the BDA that were on the AACS consortium did a filibuster of sorts to delay finalization to slow HD-DVD down right?
I think it's prety clear what platform was doing all the huffing and puffing and what platform was actually working on getting their product out the door. I'll admit the ride has been bumpy for some but come on man read between the lines. We've fallen victim to Sony's markitecture again.
I am starting to get worried about the PS3, due to the reaction of people to the $600 price announcement. I think that they will end up with 20% marketshare (with xbox360 at 20% and Nintendo at 60%).
I still think that I will win the bet, hmuch, if the forum search ever gets fixed to the point that I can find the thread. I think that HD-DVD players will have so few sales that the PS3 will not have a very big hurdle to cross to "win".
I am starting to get worried about the PS3, due to the reaction of people to the $600 price announcement. I think that they will end up with 20% marketshare (with xbox360 at 20% and Nintendo at 60%).
I still think that I will win the bet, hmuch, if the forum search ever gets fixed to the point that I can find the thread. I think that HD-DVD players will have so few sales that the PS3 will not have a very big hurdle to cross to "win".
aren't you the one who praised the ps3 up and down? swore it would regain supremacy again for another straight generation?
hmmm now you're saying nintendo? well sorry to break it to you but like i've said before the 360 will take it this time. nintendo's motion controller is just a gimmick. it wll be a great party thingy, the japenese crowd will dig it, but here in the states it will sink, as well as in europe.
the only thing i agree with you now is that the PS3 might end up in third.
aren't you the one who praised the ps3 up and down? swore it would regain supremacy again for another straight generation?
hmmm now you're saying nintendo? well sorry to break it to you but like i've said before the 360 will take it this time. nintendo's motion controller is just a gimmick. it wll be a great party thingy, the japenese crowd will dig it, but here in the states it will sink, as well as in europe.
the only thing i agree with you now is that the PS3 might end up in third.
I own a 360, and there is no way that you are correct. The Wii is priced right, and the the Wii was the most popular thing at E3 (remember that E3 is a US convention, it is not just a japaneese gimic, Americans love it too).
I can't stress this enough - the people lining up for the Wii demos were not concerned with price, as the E3 play time is free. The Wii would have been the most popular thing there, with a four hour line, regardless of the price point it was at. Combine the high interest with the low price point and you have a killer product.
The 360 has many disadvantages when compared to the PS3:
- the high end 360 is still less feature rich than the crappy version of the PS3
- games are large, due to HDTV content, so corners need to be cut to fit them on space limited DVD-rom player.
- hard drive not standard across all units, limiting size of save files
- smaller list of games being developed, and MUCH smaller variety (lots of games on the 360 are similar to each other, shooters and racing games).
- microsoft unlikely to allow the 360 to be used as a general purpose computer (unlike the PS3) with web browser, office suite, keyboard, mouse, etc.
- backwards compatibility sucks on the 360, at least for games that I like.
- etc.
The reason that I have changed my mind about Nintendo is that I was very surprised at the reaction that Nintendo got at E3. $600 is nothing for me, so I guess I am kind of out of tune with the common man - I expected the price to not really be an issue (and obviously it is an issue).
But one thing has not changed, and that is THERE IS NO HOPE FOR HD-DVD. There is just no reason for it to be purchaced in large enough quantities for it to survive, which is borne out by the players amazon rankings.
I own a 360, and there is no way that you are correct. The Wii is priced right, and the the Wii was the most popular thing at E3 (remember that E3 is a US convention, it is not just a japaneese gimic, Americans love it too).
I can't stress this enough - the people lining up for the Wii demos were not concerned with price, as the E3 play time is free. The Wii would have been the most popular thing there, with a four hour line, regardless of the price point it was at. Combine the high interest with the low price point and you have a killer product.
The 360 has many disadvantages when compared to the PS3:
- the high end 360 is still less feature rich than the crappy version of the PS3
- games are large, due to HDTV content, so corners need to be cut to fit them on space limited DVD-rom player.
- hard drive not standard across all units, limiting size of save files
- smaller list of games being developed, and MUCH smaller variety (lots of games on the 360 are similar to each other, shooters and racing games).
- microsoft unlikely to allow the 360 to be used as a general purpose computer (unlike the PS3) with web browser, office suite, keyboard, mouse, etc.
- backwards compatibility sucks on the 360, at least for games that I like.
- etc.
The reason that I have changed my mind about Nintendo is that I was very surprised at the reaction that Nintendo got at E3. $600 is nothing for me, so I guess I am kind of out of tune with the common man - I expected the price to not really be an issue (and obviously it is an issue).
wow i cant tell you enough how wrong you are about many of your points.
lets start here first:
the 360 offers upgradable hard drives, they offer you what you want, if you dont want a harddrive, if you dont game much, get the cheaper system. the 360 also does not force you to adopt blu-ray.
how is the top 360 less feature rich? the bottom end ps3 wont play the highest definition movies like they Sony talks up and down about. you do realize that right?
smaller games being developed for the 360? wait,wait, where do you get your information from exactly? the 360 doesn't announce games 2 years in advance like Sony does. almost all of the games shown by Sony at E3 were sequels, lmao. And at the cost of developing for the PS3 its going to be interesting to see how many developers decide to opt out. the 360 has, and will of had the strongest launch line up.
regardless if Microsoft allows it or not, the 360 will probably be the most hacked system out, not like that is a plus, but do you know what people were doing with the original XBoX? you couldn't even imagine, pffh on your web browsing complaint (thats not even a great feature to boast about) oh and umm you do realize the 360 is allowing keyboard and mouse use right?
backwards compatibility isn't all that big of an issue as Sony would like you to believe. but go ahead keep being brainwashed. the 360 still has a strong list of games that are backwards compatible.
OK so here we are with the BIGGEST shock i'm going to lay on you. You ready? ready? E3 IS ALL ABOUT HYPE and HYPE dies DOWN. uh oh!!!! last year at the E3 the hype was alllllll about killzone, and look at what Sony games will look like! oh man! crazy!
have you ever been to E3? let me tell you something those regulars that end up going every year are the most giddiest, silliest group of guys you'll ever see. i mean after all they're gamers (sorry to generalize or offend anyone) but they are like school girls, high school girls, fickle like you wouldn't imagine.
nintendo will sell the wii, but it will not be the number 1 console in the U.S or in Europe, and i'd bet an arm and a leg on it.
I can't wait for Blu-ray to be just as much of a successs as Betamax and DAT were
True both were not successful in the consumer market. But were a success in professional recording.
Betacam was a huge success for Sony for nearly 20 years. I'm sure Sony sold hundreds of thousands of Betacam decks costing an average of $30,000 each. And millions of Betacam tapes.
At the very least Blu-ray could repeat that success I'm sure Sony would be pleased. HD-DVD has only the consumer market to be successful in.
DAT wasn't as large a success but was a standard pro audio recording for a few years.
how is the top 360 less feature rich? the bottom end ps3 wont play the highest definition movies like they Sony talks up and down about. you do realize that right?
Not true - HD movies can be played via the component outputs. You need to buy the $599 one to get HDMI, but HDMI is not required for HD movies.
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Originally posted by Elixir
backwards compatibility isn't all that big of an issue as Sony would like you to believe. but go ahead keep being brainwashed. the 360 still has a strong list of games that are backwards compatible.
It is a big deal for me - Baldurs gate II is on the list and it sucks. They did a really bad job of porting it, and if the first game I tried sucked so bad, what does that tell me about the rest of the list?
Quote:
Originally posted by Elixir
those regulars that end up going every year are the most giddiest, silliest group of guys you'll ever see. i mean after all they're gamers (sorry to generalize or offend anyone) but they are like school girls, high school girls, fickle like you wouldn't imagine.
You just described the hard core video game audience, who will buy the Wii in droves.
I still stare at my dusty old player and that stack of discs that never gets used and I just sigh.
I enjoyed MiniDisc for the brief span of time when it was the best way I knew of to make an ever-changing set of compilation recordings to listen to -- but MP3 players soon came along and totally blew MP3 away for that kind of use.
As for what the other guy said about DAT being like BetaMax -- I'm not so sure that's a valid comparison. A lot of DAT's problems stemmed from music industry opposition, including laws that enforced copy protection and made use of consumer DAT equipment a pain in the ass. Without that opposition, who knows how well DAT would have done? Probably better than it did do, but I imagine that it would still have been a niche product -- albeit a larger niche -- for audiophiles, while the unwashed masses would likely have remained content with cassettes until MP3 technology came along.
How much help does Sony need to get their freakin' product out the door. Forget late june we're looking at August 15th now for the Sony player.
You guys do know that members of the BDA that were on the AACS consortium did a filibuster of sorts to delay finalization to slow HD-DVD down right?
I think it's prety clear what platform was doing all the huffing and puffing and what platform was actually working on getting their product out the door. I'll admit the ride has been bumpy for some but come on man read between the lines. We've fallen victim to Sony's markitecture again.
Hahahahaha. Sony hasn't been expecting a June release date for quite a while now man. It was expected in late July not June. So, if it is delayed like 15 more days, is the HD DVD market going to take it over with its 12,000 units sold? Pffffft!
I think it is pretty clear someone is trying to paint Blu-ray as a one pony show. Hopefully repetition will get this clear to most of you anti-Sony people. Blu-ray is NOT JUST SONY.
Furthermore, this month, Samsung is still expected to release their Blu-ray player with the still scheduled launch of Blu-ray titles.
Same ol FUD, let the Sony flame on continue from you, but just remember who'll be getting burned come November! Make no mistake about it.
I can't wait for Blu-ray to be just as much of a successs as Betamax and DAT were!
I can't wait for you and others to start reading previous posts and find out why this is such a silly statement.
Blu-ray...
1) (Blu-ray) Is licensed to many a company who will also be getting royalties -- Philips, Panasonic (who was on the VHS side back in the day), Pioneer, and other companies of 170+ member BDA. Betamax was not licensed out, and that it one of the reasons it failed.
2) (Blu-ray) Has more storage capacity than HD DVD competitor. Betamax lacked in storage capacity, and therefore this was anoter reason it failed, just like HD DVD will.
3)(Blu-ray) Has more studio support, and content is what sells a format. Also, to make a point yet again, Blu-ray is supported by the majority of Porn studios as well. Yet another reason some believe Betamax failed, and why Blu-ray will undoubtedly succeed.
So what was your reasoning? How will it become the next Betamax, other than other sheeple spouting the same crap? Enlighten me.
aren't you the one who praised the ps3 up and down? swore it would regain supremacy again for another straight generation?
hmmm now you're saying nintendo? well sorry to break it to you but like i've said before the 360 will take it this time. nintendo's motion controller is just a gimmick. it wll be a great party thingy, the japenese crowd will dig it, but here in the states it will sink, as well as in europe.
the only thing i agree with you now is that the PS3 might end up in third.
You ought to really have a reality check. You need to stop doing lines in the form of "X"s on you living room table. Really.
PS3 will outsell both the Xbox and the Nintendo, guaranteed. I'll just leave it at that, unless you want my complimentary "I told you so" comment later which I can totally arrange if you'd like me to. 8)
You ought to really have a reality check. You need to stop doing lines in the form of "X"s on you living room table. Really.
PS3 will outsell both the Xbox and the Nintendo, guaranteed. I'll just leave it at that, unless you want my complimentary "I told you so" comment later which I can totally arrange if you'd like me to. 8)
Oh yeah Toshiba's first firmware update 1.2/109/200 or something like that has been leaked. Over on AVS plenty of users have installed it and their problems with lockups and audio dropouts have vanished. It seems that Toshiba switched to the new firmare sometime last month because some units are being shipped with it already. Kudos Toshiba.
Oh yeah Toshiba's first firmware update 1.2/109/200 or something like that has been leaked. Over on AVS plenty of users have installed it and their problems with lockups and audio dropouts have vanished. It seems that Toshiba switched to the new firmare sometime last month because some units are being shipped with it already. Kudos Toshiba.
Great! Now if they could only fix the massive heat output (due to the codec), resulting fan noise, 45 second start up and disk load time (with re-load of disk after you press stop on the remote), huge complicated cheaply made non-lit remote, HDMI communication problems, sluggish response to remote commands, and poor overall sales. 8)
Great! Now if they could only fix the massive heat output (due to the codec), resulting fan noise, 45 second start up and disk load time (with re-load of disk after you press stop on the remote), huge complicated cheaply made non-lit remote, HDMI communication problems, sluggish response to remote commands, and poor overall sales. 8)
Haven't read many complaints about heat or fan noise. The biggest complaints have all been audio dropouts and lockups which have been corrected. The HDMI issues have largely been corrected as well.
How do you have poor overall sales when EVERYONE is sold out? The X1 has a backlit remote if that's what you want. Personally if the 2nd generation unit has a crappy remote I'm probably going to buy a Harmony or something else to run my system anyways.
Interestingly enough Sony is now beginning to display Blu-Ray in their stores and I read a mini review where the Tyson's Corner SonyStyle in Virginia has one on display. Evidently Blu-Ray isn't that fast at booting up either.
e ...I don't know why you're sitting their with a nice HDTV Hometheatre system and you're still watching upconverted DVD and macroblock infested HD cable programming. Swallow your pride and go pick up a HD DVD unit man!
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Why are people obsessed by 1080p when most people can't tell the difference? LCD are progressive by nature, and 1080p only gets noticable over 50".
A part of it too is if you were to deinterlace 1080i you woud really be watching 540P. Even less than 720P.Which the the reason why several HD broadcasts are made in 720P.
No 1080P is noticeable on screens smaller than 50 inch. If you are doing your comparison in Best Buy then I guess it could be hard to tell amongst the crappy pictures.
Sony is currently using Blu-ray in its professional cameras and decks, slowly replacing tape with Blu-ray. Blu-ray will survive one way or another.
HD-DVD will not likely find success in the pro market, so the consumer market is its only chance.
How much help does Sony need to get their freakin' product out the door. Forget late june we're looking at August 15th now for the Sony player.
You guys do know that members of the BDA that were on the AACS consortium did a filibuster of sorts to delay finalization to slow HD-DVD down right?
I think it's prety clear what platform was doing all the huffing and puffing and what platform was actually working on getting their product out the door. I'll admit the ride has been bumpy for some but come on man read between the lines. We've fallen victim to Sony's markitecture again.
Originally posted by TenoBell
I just wrote a longer explanation in another thread.
Sony is currently using Blu-ray in its professional cameras and decks, slowly replacing tape with Blu-ray. Blu-ray will survive one way or another.
HD-DVD will not likely find success in the pro market, so the consumer market is its only chance.
I can't wait for Blu-ray to be just as much of a successs as Betamax and DAT were!
Originally posted by iMacfan
I can't wait for Blu-ray to be just as much of a successs as Betamax and DAT were!
Don't forget MiniDisc.
I still stare at my dusty old player and that stack of discs that never gets used and I just sigh.
I still think that I will win the bet, hmuch, if the forum search ever gets fixed to the point that I can find the thread. I think that HD-DVD players will have so few sales that the PS3 will not have a very big hurdle to cross to "win".
Originally posted by e1618978
I am starting to get worried about the PS3, due to the reaction of people to the $600 price announcement. I think that they will end up with 20% marketshare (with xbox360 at 20% and Nintendo at 60%).
I still think that I will win the bet, hmuch, if the forum search ever gets fixed to the point that I can find the thread. I think that HD-DVD players will have so few sales that the PS3 will not have a very big hurdle to cross to "win".
aren't you the one who praised the ps3 up and down? swore it would regain supremacy again for another straight generation?
hmmm now you're saying nintendo? well sorry to break it to you but like i've said before the 360 will take it this time. nintendo's motion controller is just a gimmick. it wll be a great party thingy, the japenese crowd will dig it, but here in the states it will sink, as well as in europe.
the only thing i agree with you now is that the PS3 might end up in third.
Originally posted by Elixir
aren't you the one who praised the ps3 up and down? swore it would regain supremacy again for another straight generation?
hmmm now you're saying nintendo? well sorry to break it to you but like i've said before the 360 will take it this time. nintendo's motion controller is just a gimmick. it wll be a great party thingy, the japenese crowd will dig it, but here in the states it will sink, as well as in europe.
the only thing i agree with you now is that the PS3 might end up in third.
I own a 360, and there is no way that you are correct. The Wii is priced right, and the the Wii was the most popular thing at E3 (remember that E3 is a US convention, it is not just a japaneese gimic, Americans love it too).
I can't stress this enough - the people lining up for the Wii demos were not concerned with price, as the E3 play time is free. The Wii would have been the most popular thing there, with a four hour line, regardless of the price point it was at. Combine the high interest with the low price point and you have a killer product.
The 360 has many disadvantages when compared to the PS3:
- the high end 360 is still less feature rich than the crappy version of the PS3
- games are large, due to HDTV content, so corners need to be cut to fit them on space limited DVD-rom player.
- hard drive not standard across all units, limiting size of save files
- smaller list of games being developed, and MUCH smaller variety (lots of games on the 360 are similar to each other, shooters and racing games).
- microsoft unlikely to allow the 360 to be used as a general purpose computer (unlike the PS3) with web browser, office suite, keyboard, mouse, etc.
- backwards compatibility sucks on the 360, at least for games that I like.
- etc.
The reason that I have changed my mind about Nintendo is that I was very surprised at the reaction that Nintendo got at E3. $600 is nothing for me, so I guess I am kind of out of tune with the common man - I expected the price to not really be an issue (and obviously it is an issue).
But one thing has not changed, and that is THERE IS NO HOPE FOR HD-DVD. There is just no reason for it to be purchaced in large enough quantities for it to survive, which is borne out by the players amazon rankings.
Originally posted by e1618978
I own a 360, and there is no way that you are correct. The Wii is priced right, and the the Wii was the most popular thing at E3 (remember that E3 is a US convention, it is not just a japaneese gimic, Americans love it too).
I can't stress this enough - the people lining up for the Wii demos were not concerned with price, as the E3 play time is free. The Wii would have been the most popular thing there, with a four hour line, regardless of the price point it was at. Combine the high interest with the low price point and you have a killer product.
The 360 has many disadvantages when compared to the PS3:
- the high end 360 is still less feature rich than the crappy version of the PS3
- games are large, due to HDTV content, so corners need to be cut to fit them on space limited DVD-rom player.
- hard drive not standard across all units, limiting size of save files
- smaller list of games being developed, and MUCH smaller variety (lots of games on the 360 are similar to each other, shooters and racing games).
- microsoft unlikely to allow the 360 to be used as a general purpose computer (unlike the PS3) with web browser, office suite, keyboard, mouse, etc.
- backwards compatibility sucks on the 360, at least for games that I like.
- etc.
The reason that I have changed my mind about Nintendo is that I was very surprised at the reaction that Nintendo got at E3. $600 is nothing for me, so I guess I am kind of out of tune with the common man - I expected the price to not really be an issue (and obviously it is an issue).
wow i cant tell you enough how wrong you are about many of your points.
lets start here first:
the 360 offers upgradable hard drives, they offer you what you want, if you dont want a harddrive, if you dont game much, get the cheaper system. the 360 also does not force you to adopt blu-ray.
how is the top 360 less feature rich? the bottom end ps3 wont play the highest definition movies like they Sony talks up and down about. you do realize that right?
smaller games being developed for the 360? wait,wait, where do you get your information from exactly? the 360 doesn't announce games 2 years in advance like Sony does. almost all of the games shown by Sony at E3 were sequels, lmao. And at the cost of developing for the PS3 its going to be interesting to see how many developers decide to opt out. the 360 has, and will of had the strongest launch line up.
regardless if Microsoft allows it or not, the 360 will probably be the most hacked system out, not like that is a plus, but do you know what people were doing with the original XBoX? you couldn't even imagine, pffh on your web browsing complaint (thats not even a great feature to boast about) oh and umm you do realize the 360 is allowing keyboard and mouse use right?
backwards compatibility isn't all that big of an issue as Sony would like you to believe. but go ahead keep being brainwashed. the 360 still has a strong list of games that are backwards compatible.
OK so here we are with the BIGGEST shock i'm going to lay on you. You ready? ready? E3 IS ALL ABOUT HYPE and HYPE dies DOWN. uh oh!!!! last year at the E3 the hype was alllllll about killzone, and look at what Sony games will look like! oh man! crazy!
have you ever been to E3? let me tell you something those regulars that end up going every year are the most giddiest, silliest group of guys you'll ever see. i mean after all they're gamers (sorry to generalize or offend anyone) but they are like school girls, high school girls, fickle like you wouldn't imagine.
nintendo will sell the wii, but it will not be the number 1 console in the U.S or in Europe, and i'd bet an arm and a leg on it.
I can't wait for Blu-ray to be just as much of a successs as Betamax and DAT were
True both were not successful in the consumer market. But were a success in professional recording.
Betacam was a huge success for Sony for nearly 20 years. I'm sure Sony sold hundreds of thousands of Betacam decks costing an average of $30,000 each. And millions of Betacam tapes.
At the very least Blu-ray could repeat that success I'm sure Sony would be pleased. HD-DVD has only the consumer market to be successful in.
DAT wasn't as large a success but was a standard pro audio recording for a few years.
Originally posted by Elixir
how is the top 360 less feature rich? the bottom end ps3 wont play the highest definition movies like they Sony talks up and down about. you do realize that right?
Not true - HD movies can be played via the component outputs. You need to buy the $599 one to get HDMI, but HDMI is not required for HD movies.
Originally posted by Elixir
backwards compatibility isn't all that big of an issue as Sony would like you to believe. but go ahead keep being brainwashed. the 360 still has a strong list of games that are backwards compatible.
It is a big deal for me - Baldurs gate II is on the list and it sucks. They did a really bad job of porting it, and if the first game I tried sucked so bad, what does that tell me about the rest of the list?
Originally posted by Elixir
those regulars that end up going every year are the most giddiest, silliest group of guys you'll ever see. i mean after all they're gamers (sorry to generalize or offend anyone) but they are like school girls, high school girls, fickle like you wouldn't imagine.
You just described the hard core video game audience, who will buy the Wii in droves.
Originally posted by Northgate
I still stare at my dusty old player and that stack of discs that never gets used and I just sigh.
I enjoyed MiniDisc for the brief span of time when it was the best way I knew of to make an ever-changing set of compilation recordings to listen to -- but MP3 players soon came along and totally blew MP3 away for that kind of use.
As for what the other guy said about DAT being like BetaMax -- I'm not so sure that's a valid comparison. A lot of DAT's problems stemmed from music industry opposition, including laws that enforced copy protection and made use of consumer DAT equipment a pain in the ass. Without that opposition, who knows how well DAT would have done? Probably better than it did do, but I imagine that it would still have been a niche product -- albeit a larger niche -- for audiophiles, while the unwashed masses would likely have remained content with cassettes until MP3 technology came along.
Originally posted by iMacfan
I can't wait for Blu-ray to be just as much of a successs as Betamax and DAT were!
Actually, DAT's the industry standard for audio recording. (Although increasingly people are recording straight to computers.)
Originally posted by hmurchison
Surprise Surprise! Sony's Blu Ray player delayed again
How much help does Sony need to get their freakin' product out the door. Forget late june we're looking at August 15th now for the Sony player.
You guys do know that members of the BDA that were on the AACS consortium did a filibuster of sorts to delay finalization to slow HD-DVD down right?
I think it's prety clear what platform was doing all the huffing and puffing and what platform was actually working on getting their product out the door. I'll admit the ride has been bumpy for some but come on man read between the lines. We've fallen victim to Sony's markitecture again.
Hahahahaha. Sony hasn't been expecting a June release date for quite a while now man. It was expected in late July not June. So, if it is delayed like 15 more days, is the HD DVD market going to take it over with its 12,000 units sold? Pffffft!
I think it is pretty clear someone is trying to paint Blu-ray as a one pony show. Hopefully repetition will get this clear to most of you anti-Sony people. Blu-ray is NOT JUST SONY.
Furthermore, this month, Samsung is still expected to release their Blu-ray player with the still scheduled launch of Blu-ray titles.
Same ol FUD, let the Sony flame on continue from you, but just remember who'll be getting burned come November! Make no mistake about it.
Originally posted by iMacfan
I can't wait for Blu-ray to be just as much of a successs as Betamax and DAT were!
I can't wait for you and others to start reading previous posts and find out why this is such a silly statement.
Blu-ray...
1) (Blu-ray) Is licensed to many a company who will also be getting royalties -- Philips, Panasonic (who was on the VHS side back in the day), Pioneer, and other companies of 170+ member BDA. Betamax was not licensed out, and that it one of the reasons it failed.
2) (Blu-ray) Has more storage capacity than HD DVD competitor. Betamax lacked in storage capacity, and therefore this was anoter reason it failed, just like HD DVD will.
3)(Blu-ray) Has more studio support, and content is what sells a format. Also, to make a point yet again, Blu-ray is supported by the majority of Porn studios as well. Yet another reason some believe Betamax failed, and why Blu-ray will undoubtedly succeed.
So what was your reasoning? How will it become the next Betamax, other than other sheeple spouting the same crap? Enlighten me.
Originally posted by Elixir
aren't you the one who praised the ps3 up and down? swore it would regain supremacy again for another straight generation?
hmmm now you're saying nintendo? well sorry to break it to you but like i've said before the 360 will take it this time. nintendo's motion controller is just a gimmick. it wll be a great party thingy, the japenese crowd will dig it, but here in the states it will sink, as well as in europe.
the only thing i agree with you now is that the PS3 might end up in third.
You ought to really have a reality check. You need to stop doing lines in the form of "X"s on you living room table. Really.
PS3 will outsell both the Xbox and the Nintendo, guaranteed. I'll just leave it at that, unless you want my complimentary "I told you so" comment later which I can totally arrange if you'd like me to. 8)
Originally posted by marzetta7
You ought to really have a reality check. You need to stop doing lines in the form of "X"s on you living room table. Really.
PS3 will outsell both the Xbox and the Nintendo, guaranteed. I'll just leave it at that, unless you want my complimentary "I told you so" comment later which I can totally arrange if you'd like me to. 8)
yes, i will be here.
get back to me.
Originally posted by hmurchison
Oh yeah Toshiba's first firmware update 1.2/109/200 or something like that has been leaked. Over on AVS plenty of users have installed it and their problems with lockups and audio dropouts have vanished. It seems that Toshiba switched to the new firmare sometime last month because some units are being shipped with it already. Kudos Toshiba.
Great! Now if they could only fix the massive heat output (due to the codec), resulting fan noise, 45 second start up and disk load time (with re-load of disk after you press stop on the remote), huge complicated cheaply made non-lit remote, HDMI communication problems, sluggish response to remote commands, and poor overall sales. 8)
Originally posted by e1618978
Great! Now if they could only fix the massive heat output (due to the codec), resulting fan noise, 45 second start up and disk load time (with re-load of disk after you press stop on the remote), huge complicated cheaply made non-lit remote, HDMI communication problems, sluggish response to remote commands, and poor overall sales. 8)
Haven't read many complaints about heat or fan noise. The biggest complaints have all been audio dropouts and lockups which have been corrected. The HDMI issues have largely been corrected as well.
How do you have poor overall sales when EVERYONE is sold out? The X1 has a backlit remote if that's what you want. Personally if the 2nd generation unit has a crappy remote I'm probably going to buy a Harmony or something else to run my system anyways.
Interestingly enough Sony is now beginning to display Blu-Ray in their stores and I read a mini review where the Tyson's Corner SonyStyle in Virginia has one on display. Evidently Blu-Ray isn't that fast at booting up either.
e ...I don't know why you're sitting their with a nice HDTV Hometheatre system and you're still watching upconverted DVD and macroblock infested HD cable programming. Swallow your pride and go pick up a HD DVD unit man!