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SpamSandwich said:It has a VESA mount, so there are plenty of alternatives.
I really have no idea who the $1000 stand is aimed at? And the perception factor is way off - if Apple wanted to reinforce the opinion that they are an overpriced, luxury brand for people with more money than sense, this stand will do it.
P.S. Perhaps for those in the know in the niche that use this sort of monitor a $1000 stand is reasonable. But the to the ignorant masses it seems laughably overpriced.
Why? CA real estate is crazy expensive. The cost of housing in CA in insane. There have been several stories about people leaving CA for cheaper & better places to live (I knew people who did it way back in the 80s). In this age of Slack, Skype, discord, and all the other online meeting & collaboration tools, why build a big office with a high concentration of people in a very expensive place?
As a shareholder, that almost borders on poor use of Apple's money. High real estate cost + high housing costs = higher salaries = less profit. Put a campus somewhere nice, but cheaper to live like NC or Atlanta.
bitmod said:This Mac Pro is a Formula 1 car. ... Doesn’t mean we aren’t professionals just because we aren’t Formula 1 drivers.
This new Mac Pro is for the top-tier "professionals" who need massive computing power on their desktop. Are there many other types of professionals who need less power? Yes. But this machine is an engineering showcase intended for those with extreme needs.
Are there other machines with better GFlop/$ ratios or TByte/$ ratios? I suspect so - but Apple seemed to claim this machine offers a jump up from any other available machine - in specific areas.
Would it be nice to see a 3 slot version? Yes. But maybe Apple sees that hardware space is already filled by Windows machines and they don't want to compete there. Apple is a prestige brand and this is a prestige piece of hardware. (But $1000 for a monitor stand!? LOL.)
StrangeDays said:neilm said:AppleInsider said:
Case Western Reserve University economics professor Susan Helper noted "China is not just cheap," as it is a country where the presence of an authoritarian government means "you can marshal 100,000 people to work all night for you."
StrangeDays said:Well, you got one part right. This sort of equipment is not for you.
The monitor I understand - it's very high-end with features most users don't need or care about, but those who do are willing to pay the money for - and it is cheaper than similarly featured monitors. Great. How does that comparison work with the stand? If $1000 is a fair price, what makes it so?
KidGloves said:So, so close... Looks incredible. I could put up with 16GB of RAM but I see this only supports 2 monitors. I need 3 with my setup. Doh!You may want to check the details on that. I run two external monitors on my MBP using a dock/hub. It might be possible to run multiple monitors using an external device that supports multiple monitors. May also depend on the resolution of the multiple monitors. Are you running 3x4k? Or will 1080 work?
(I did not read the entire thread. Wow! 9 pages!)
I think it would have been much better if Apple had announced these discounts when they introduced the machines. Tim Cook (or whoever) standing up and saying, "We recognize people still need to connect to non-USB-C devices, so we're making all Apple adapters 50% off and deeply discounting third-party USB-C devices that we sell," would have gone a long way to fostering some good will. Instead, this looks like a reactionary move to backlash. "Oh! You still need to connect to non-USB-C things? You won't buy our shiny new toy? Umm... How about a discount?"
VisualSeed said:The next step should be to make a hypercard style development environment that lets someone build simple apps using swift as the programing / scripting language. The apps could be imported into Xcode at some point in the future and extended.
And I'd really like to see this Swift Playground on macOS. Real keyboard, ability to save projects to files, etc. The iPad may be OK for initial concept exposure, but I can't imagine doing any significant amount of writing on it.
I did watch the keynote. What I heard was "people are going to learn to code by using this app. And they'll change the world!" No. They will dip their toes into programming, get a little exposure to general concepts and tasks, and from that be able to learn whether they want to move on to really learn how to be a developer. Just as with music lessons: you give a kid some lessons, they learn a few things and find out if they have a knack for it and/or enjoy it. They may never be a concert pianist, but they may enjoy playing Christmas carols at family gatherings, and listen to music with greater understanding than others. Or for another analogy: Everyone learns English, but not everyone goes on to be a novelist. Knowing some basic coding I think will become like English or math: everyone knows a little bit, but few are actually very good at them. I felt the demo oversold the Playground app.