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If you want a custom Mac Studio or MacBook Pro, expect to wait up to three months
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Future Mac Pro may use Apple Silicon & PCI-E GPUs in parallel
This would be very useful if it comes to pass! It would give 3D graphics users the "best of both worlds," SOC GPUs and discrete GPUs. My eGPU on my 6 year-old iMac Pro breathed new life into it. While its CPU performance isn't even up to the original M1 performance, the eGPU performance blows away anything currently available on the ASi architecture, including the M2 Max. Perhaps that advantage is short-lived if the M2 Ultra or M3 can increase the graphics performance! For the record, the GB6 metal performance of my AMD eGPU is 194703.
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A new Mac Pro is coming, confirms Apple exec
9secondkox2 said:It’s not that apple can’t address GPUs not in the due, it’s that performance is lost when doing a pci-e type of setup. So they choose not to.Be interesting to see how they solve that with either a multiple m series SOC connection network or a new SOC.
This simply isn't true. I'm getting very high GB6 Metal numbers (194703) with my eGPU on a 6 year-old iMac Pro, connected through a Thunderbolt 3 connection. The M2 Ultra MAY be faster than this with the on chip GPUs, but so far, the M1 Ultra is not.
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M2 Pro & Max GPUs are fast -- but not faster than M1 Ultra
If I did the math right, the M2 Max over the M1 Max was 47.5% higher on "Metal." Hypothesizing equal improvements, we may get 139,500 out of the M2 Ultra in the Studio (whenever Apple decides to release it.) That's ALMOST as fast as I'm getting with my AMD 6900XT eGPU on my 2017 iMac Pro. With all of this said, I can't imagine Apple releasing a Mac Pro (with any chip!) that can't meet the "Metal" result already posted by the Intel Mac Pro: 166946.
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Mac Studio with M1 UItra review: A look at the future power of Apple Silicon
I'm still trying to decide whether or not to spend the extra $1k for 64 GPU cores instead of 48. I tend to keep machines for at least 5 years (or more,) and want to "future proof" as much as possible up front. Sure, I know there will probably be an M2 "Ultra" or M3 or M4 or M5 in the next 5 years, but the "studio" is the Mac I've always wanted. My current 2017 iMac Pro was a compromise since the only thing available at the time was the "trashcan" Mac, and it was obsolete by then. This thing is 2-1/2 times faster than my iMac Pro in multi-core CPU tests. Howerver, it's significantly slower in GPU performance then my AMD RX 6900 XT eGPU.
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Apple unveils 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro, M1 Max starting at $2499
docno42 said:robin huber said:
At the VERY LEAST they need to add some M1 Pro and M1 Max options to the existing 24" lineup.
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Future Mac Pro may use Apple Silicon & PCI-E GPUs in parallel
thadec said:
So, there never has been any reason for Apple Silicon Macs not supporting discrete graphics via M.2, PCIE or Thunderbolt other than Apple simply not wanting to. Which was the same reason why Apple locked Nvidia out of the Mac ecosystem and had people stuck with AMD GPU options only: purely because they wanted to. My guess is that Apple believed that they were capable of creating integrated GPUs that were comparable with Nvidia Ampere and AMD Radeon Pro, especially in the workloads that most Mac Pro buyers use them for. Maybe they are, but the issue may be that it isn't cost-effective to do so for a Mac Pro line that will sell less than a million units a year.
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Possible Mac Pro 'compute module' discovered in iOS 16.4 code
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M2 Pro Mac mini vs Mac Pro - compared
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M2 Pro Mac mini vs Mac Studio - compared
It's sort of odd they didn't also update the Studio offerings. Perhaps they will skip the M2 and go directly to the M3 @ 3nm. It's entirely possible the M2 Max Macbook will be faster/more feature complete than any Studio other than the Ultra version. After reviewing the specs on the M2 Max Macbook, it sort of obsoletes the Max version of the Studio. For now.