mjtomlin

avon b7 said:

anonymouse said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

Apple basically said “fuck you” to Google.

I’ve repeatedly said Apple should counter Google’s shame campaign by announcing they’ll support RCS when Google opens up their RCS APIs for everyone. Including competitors like WhatsApp or Telegram.

Google has their own RCS APIs in Android but Samsung is the only one allowed to use them. Developers have asked and Google has done nothing to allow other Apps to implement RCS via their system and use E2EE.

So Apple did one better and said they’ll work with standards bodies to improve RCS.

Now Google’s hopes of a messaging duopoly are finished.

... So don't stake your hopes on Apple coming to our rescue riding a white horse. ...

Our rescue? Don't you mean your rescue, Android users' rescue? Those of us living in the land of blue bubbles don't actually need rescuing at the moment, thank you very much.

We mustn't forget that for millions of iOS users, Messages is not a viable option right now due to a lack of feature parity with other platforms. The result is that those users simply stop using Messages altogether. 

Those users would probably like to be 'rescued' in some way, as, as things stand, they aren't using blue bubbles at all. 

I agree that this move is likely something done to appease the EU. Whether it is enough or not is currently unknown. 

I guess Apple is striving to do the absolute minimum to cross the line of interoperability here. 

RCS is a cellular texting protocol for replacing Texting/SMS/MMS. Apple has thus far refused to support it, because it lacks a standard E2EE protocol. However, they (along with many other companies) are working with GSMA to implement one.

The EU wants interoperability between all messaging platforms. Supporting RCS will have zero impact on what the EU wants. As that will not make iMessage compatible with WhatsApp, nor Kik, or Telegram, or FaceBook Messenger, etc. They want all these messaging apps to support a common standard protocol so they can intercommunicate with each other. This is not new, there have been many open standard messaging protocols over the years, and they all die because innovation goes out the window when 10 heads can’t agree on what features get added next.

lmasanti said:

Maybe… just maybe… Apple convinced GSM to put E2EE into the standard.
Then… Apple will be include RCS in its Ones.

Simple!

Apple can even ‘help’ in the effort.
Apple gave its tech to build Qi2, Matter, the new key standard…

Apple has not adopted RCS for the simple fact that the GSMA group has not developed a standard E2EE for it - they have said so several times. And what the article is alluding to is that Apple is in fact working with them to implement one. Google currently has their own proprietery E2EE extension to RCS that Apple flat out refuses to use, and for good reason. (Apple actually has stated they will not support ANY non-standard extensions to RCS.)

People also need to understand that end-to-end encryption only means that between you and the other user, the message remains encrypted. That does not mean that same message cannot be sent somewhere else unencrypted. Google is a company that thrives on data, forever looking for new data streams to mine. You can be sure, ANYTHING that passes through their E2EE extension will be harvested and mined.

Anilu_777 said:

I still wonder why Google even cares about this and then why it’s pushing so hard. I don’t trust Google. 

Massive new data stream. They’ve failed so far with any attempt at a “social” network of any kind.

GeneT said:

Wait! In what world does a 16 core CPU, keep pace with a 24 core CPU on multi-core score? Even allowing for 16% faster single core score, this math doesn't work.

Multi-core CPU performance does not scale linearly.

Just go look at the GB scores for those high core CPUs...

 96-core AMD -> 18,000
 64-core AMD -> 20,000
 56-core Intel -> 19,000
 24-core Intel -> 21,000

 16-core AMD -> 19,000 (120W TDP)
 16-core M3 Max -> 21,000 (30W TDP)

bulk001 said:

If you are a time is money person then you are not buying a laptop. You are probably buying a high PC desktop system with NVDA graphics cards that give top performance in maya, premiere pro, photoshop etc. 

How many of those people drag that desktop PC on the road with them? Designers may work 100% in a studio, but photographers and videographers (and I'm sure many others) need something in the field.