danox

tmay said:

danox said:

MassiveAttack said:

So..  a device which collects data and even if I use iPhone or MacBook, this device will absorb and collect data from all users when connecting it with Apple products which makes Apple‘s privacy obsolete. 

And this device gets smarter and smarter by learning with collected data. 

It will be a personal device while Apple makes generally purposed devices. 

I see that Apple stock is underperforming as the worst stock performer YTD among Magnificant 7.

Rotten Apple will feel the pressure. Better now than late: Tim Cook needs to step down as he can’t afford to doom Apple further and further since Vision Pro.

So Apple is in trouble because two clowns get on the stage a la Qualcomm/Microsoft last year and announce something (nothing) that requires software and hardware which preforms like vaporware but is far beyond anything Apple has done to date, and the hardware would be better than Apple Silicon and the OS driving it will be better than any of the five operating systems Apple has released in the last 25 years? Oh and at the end Apple is also doomed too.

Note: Microsoft’s effort came up so far short of Apples Rosetta one (let alone Rosetta two) and the CPU/SOC designed by Qualcomm also came up short of the M1 processor in overall actual performance in software/hardware, which is why Microsoft is now also doubling down on their AI efforts this year and downplaying the hardware aspects, Microsoft has even gone so far as canceled some of the Surface hardware recently. (Microsoft hardware solutions are so bad that many in the geek crowd are crying that Apple should emulate it with a touch screen MacOS on an M4 iPad).

The biggest difference is that Apple’s computers/devices actually sell at a profit from day one there are no giveaways. The Microsoft hardware solutions (over 12 years?) are all lost leader unprofitable Me-too products. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9qHw7xcWN4 Yep but Apple is the one who’s doomed…..

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/05/report-microsofts-experimental-laptop-studio-is-vanishing-without-a-replacement/

Like the Microsoft/Qualcomm current mashup, which is a lost leader and is an unprofitable Me-too product this 6 billion dollar Bromance will end in tears. (but Johnny will be a billionaire). The OpenAI Sam/Jonnie show is just looking to hold on until the initial public offering.

I'm guessing that this is going to be a consumer oriented CRISPR, so that we can reconfigure ourselves for the dystopian future...

MassiveAttack said:

Wesley_Hilliard said:

MassiveAttack said:

After reading John Gruber´s articles "something is rotten at Apple" and John Siracusa´s article "Apple Turnover", I have to say that something is really rotten at Apple. 

Apple is behind in AI (LLM, Siri, their GPU capacity, human resources for AI etc.). 
Apple is behind in their HW. Apple is launching foldables.... when?? 

Apple has been rotten with their timid updates for iPhones. Camera gets better and better, but not much. 

iPhone 17´s design is rotten.

I mean.... What isn´t rotten?

I do not expect too much from io or OpenAI, but I hope they prove me wrong. 

At the end, it is due that we really need "cool" devices nobody is thinkg about yet. 

Rotten Apple. 

I'm interested in what Apple does with AI at WWDC. "Behind," sure, if you're expecting Apple to be Google or OpenAI. Apple is leading in personal, private, and on-device AI, but that's boring and people want flashy headlines. I wouldn't bet against Apple yet anyway.

Foldables? Yeah, it's in the works but they're expensive and target a very niche market. Still looks like a nerd-driven fad that would have been cool a decade ago, but XR has solved the problem foldables were meant to tackle -- more screen, less space.

iPhone 17 hasn't released yet.

And every "AI first" piece of hardware that has released so far has been an abject failure. Ive is a legendary designer, but design can't make up for lack of interest or use case.

For both OpenAI and Apple, it's best if we wait and see what happens.

Please, elaborate where ON-DEVICE AI Apple is leading?!?! 
Does it exist? 

iPhone 17 has not released yet, but we all know how they look like. 

The first step in developing on-device AI requires the creation and production of your own device hardware. This hardware must be designed and engineered by you. Additionally, you must design and control the operating system that controls the hardware. It is important to note that one cannot occur without the other.

As a hint, the company currently in the best position to execute in these areas is Apple. With five operating systems, five ecosystems, and Apple Silicon hardware, they are uniquely positioned to dominate these areas. However, most of Apple’s so-called competitors are behind almost every aspect in these two areas. If you cannot compete in these areas, how can you control your own destiny in this emerging computing field?

Chock_Mossley said:

bushman4 said:

Apples biggest problem is not the 25% tariff it’s the fact that they’ve fallen behind on AI , Foldable iPhone etc. 
People will pay for technology that’s state of the art with all the bells and whistles. Apple has to catch up on AI or buy a company and integrate it into Apples AI
also Apple glasses everybody’s waiting let’s go

 . In the past few years I have only seen a handful of foldable phones out in the wild. But yet, it’s this thing that everyone says Apple needs to do. As for AI, I think the problem is that Apple is gotten in on the AI gimmick. It’s a trap all tech companies are getting themselves sucked into, creating a bubble that that it’s a matter of when and not if as to it bursting 

fred1 said:

The reasons given that prevent iPhones from being made in the US - “there is not the required skilled labor, there is not a supply of the rare minerals needed, and there are no facilities.” - can be dealt with, but would take years to implement. It’s not impossible, but the overnight change the Orange Man wants can’t happen.  Does he really not understand this?