danox

avon b7 said:

danox said:

blastdoor said:

Apple co-developed PPC along with IBM and Motorola. They used it for a little over 10 years. PPC fell behind Intel to a point that Apple had to make the somewhat embarrassing admission that they had no choice but to switch to Intel.

Apple not only survived that switch, but thrived. And eventually developed their own CPU that now completely beats Intel. 

I predict that a similar story will unfold with AI. Apple had Siri and various other AI/ML technologies, but it fell behind. So now they must somewhat embarrassingly rely on external suppliers. But in doing so, they will make their products better and will thrive. Eventually they will develop a superior AI stack internally. Maybe in 5 years this time instead of 15.

Isn’t Apple trying to operate on the edge with their Apple Intelligence and internal on device AI solutions? In comparison to the competition, which is just planning to phone home (always be connected) to the super computers, after all Meta, Google and Microsoft want to collect as much information as possible why would they design anything on the edge.

In the near future It will be fun to see the actual comparisons when you turn off the internet connection and run Robbie the AI agent and who can answer or perform that test will be similar to unplugging a MacBook Pro from the wall and doing the same with a Microsoft PC laptop, and seeing which one actually still performs at full speed and also seeing which one has longer battery life under normal usage, Apples mission hardware, software and privacy is a much harder/longer way to go than their so-called competition.

AI has always been about on-device, edge and cloud processing. The difference has been about what is feasible at any given time. 

Cars aren't taking life saving decisions by sending them to the cloud and back, for example. The sensing, interpretation and result are done on-device (the car).

Interpreting responses based on communication with traffic lights is done through edge processing combined with on device processing. There is no need for that to be done in the cloud. 

Non-time/privacy critical processing can be done in the cloud. 

The above also applies to handsets. Things are done where they are best done depending on multiple factors.

As with most things today (in the digital age) losing your internet connection will render most devices virtually useless and that includes iPhones with even with on-device processing.

Bill Gates might disagree but the more memory you have available, the better. Anything with a limited amount of memory will hit a wall sooner or later. 

On device processing is a good goal/option but everyone knows this and is working on it. Cloud and edge processing are also key, though.

Just for clarity, I use the term 'edge' to refer to the ICT concept of near-to-device processing without needing a central server.

It can also mean on-device processing but I prefer to say 'on-device' in those cases. 

Putting only six gigs of memory in the Pro iPhones because they could came back to bite Apple when the AI rush came up (being vertical didn’t help them there), however Google and Qualcomm problem is their SOC being under powered and 5-6 generations (performance wise) back even though they both use eight cores to Apples, six cores SOC processor.

Google‘s problem is that their SOC is six generations behind Apple and their hardware can’t operate on the edge which is why Google and Samsung have to phone home which Google probably doesn’t mind doing so since their business is collecting info probably a win-win situation for them.

https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks

Apple needs to start releasing most of their products earlier in the year so that they never miss back to school or the Christmas buying season in other words have as much time as possible with new products on the market within the key parts of the calendar year, let the anchor be WWDC the more professional computer products should come out at WWDC so you have at least six months in a year selling the higher end devices and the same should also apply to the higher end iPhones too.

WWDC is the natural release time (two weeks before and two weeks after) for any higher end products that Apple sells. Although it is unlikely to occur, consider the potential impact if some of the highly anticipated devices were unveiled during the developers’ conference. 

The resulting boost in enthusiasm and extended sales period throughout the remainder of the year, leading up to back-to-school and Christmas, would undoubtedly be substantial. For the expensive items that Apple sells you need as much time/runway as possible for people/customers to make their buying decisions particularly leading into the last three months of the calendar year.

blastdoor said:

Apple co-developed PPC along with IBM and Motorola. They used it for a little over 10 years. PPC fell behind Intel to a point that Apple had to make the somewhat embarrassing admission that they had no choice but to switch to Intel.

Apple not only survived that switch, but thrived. And eventually developed their own CPU that now completely beats Intel. 

I predict that a similar story will unfold with AI. Apple had Siri and various other AI/ML technologies, but it fell behind. So now they must somewhat embarrassingly rely on external suppliers. But in doing so, they will make their products better and will thrive. Eventually they will develop a superior AI stack internally. Maybe in 5 years this time instead of 15.

bloggerblog said:

Meta and Epic are leaches, I won't touch either of them with a ten foot pole