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They (developers) would like Apple to be like other OEM hardware makers they see HP and Dell and they can’t understand why Apple can’t just be a plain hardware only maker with no OS and no software. 

In short kill off the last American vertical computer company from the 1980’s ie… Digital, Sun Microsystems, IBM, Data General, Wang laboratories, Commodore, SGI all gone except IBM who just a mere shadow what it once was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Defunct_computer_hardware_companies

Each of these vertical computer companies, if they wanted to sell their hardware, they had to sell an operating system that worked with it or what would be the point of anyone buying it.

All are now dead mainly because of the Microsoft/Intel personal computer era. (Which became a real monopoly that actually used dirty tricks at its peak)

No make it better not cheaper… All your (direct?) competitors or would be competitors Google, Microsoft, PC box makers and Meta, already sell cheap hardware at a loss you don’t need to join them in misery. Unless Apple is planning on on expanding into some other markets that they haven’t really tried to seriously make a difference in because of the lack of reliable hardware and software (the Intel years) like server’s, and the Mac tower beyond the Mac Studio. And last where is that big screen iMac?

Apple is still leaving too many possibilities on the table but we may see some of them when they get their in house GPU’s beyond the Nvidia 5080 which is two generations away. No Nvidia isn’t standing still but their iteration and power signature (wattage) keeps climbing up in comparison to Apple with every generation. Note the M5 laptops are coming in the fall 2025 and the performance is up and the wattage is in ballpark of the previous generation. Apples position is very good inside the tech world.

One other thing to consider is that maybe this cheaper Apple product is not for the United States/EU maybe this product is designed for other parts of the world?

https://opendata.blender.org/benchmarks/query/?compute_type=OPTIX&compute_type=CUDA&compute_type=HIP&compute_type=METAL&compute_type=ONEAPI&group_by=device_name&blender_version=4.3.0  

eriamjh said:

A year into the iPhone sales, there were still articles about how it would fail.  For a long time.  

My favorite was the animation of the dogs(?) and one was saying “I want iPhone 4” and the other one just kept saying how other phones had better this, and better that and the response was “I don’t care.  I want iPhone 4.”

https://youtu.be/DaxU0ut5tUw

The iPhone was always the best overall experience.  Since day one. 

mac_dog said:

Trump: doing everything possible to destroy this economy and what’s left of the middle class.  It without help from the democrats, tho. We wouldn’t be in this position if they actually had a backbone. 

They have none most just want to get along also many are also part of the upper division, it’s only been 52 years since Kissinger and Nixon asked China to join the great dance, if we don’t wake up and put differences aside and start concentrating on real infrastructure, (and I don’t mean just make a few people richer we already do a very good job at that), our future will be a Brexit future.

MassiveAttack said:

I see that Apple is treated very unfairly.
But Apple has been "friendly" in terms of their pricing policy. 
I think Apple will not be heavily affected by raising prices. 

Not according to Wall Street, Apple is more doomed than Tesla who is really getting clocked by BYD Worldwide.