danox

mike1 said:

danox said:

mattinoz said:

entropys said:

While I agree with MjTomlin that it would make sense to first completely populate the line up with M1s, Apple does need to beat the latest 12th gen  i9 based machines.
And in future, I would see one release date each year and the lot get the equivalent gen update at once. It’s just a SOC.

I would have thought there would be an array of changes they'd want to make to the SOC design to get to the full product line. I which case it would seem to me to worth rolling them out over a few generations to offset development cost but also let them reduce risk.  Desktops like the iMac give them a bit more freedom then MacBookPro wait for say another process improvement.

tenthousandthings said:

mattinoz said:

tenthousandthings said:

Someone in one of the other threads pointed out that Apple uses Max in their iPhone marketing. Thus,

iPhone : iPhone Pro : iPhone Pro Max

iMac : iMac Pro : iMac Pro Max

iPad : iPad Air : iPad Pro (2)
MacBook : MacBook Air : MacBook Pro (2)

Mac Mini : Mac Mini Pro : Mac Pro

Wouldn't that suggest a 24 iMac with and M1 Pro or M2 Pro then a larger screen model that is $200 more. 
Hey not knocking it sounds like a winner to me. 

I was thinking more 24 : 27 XDR : 32 XDR

I also think Apple is going to do something interesting with graphics in the desktop SoCs. 

If they keep case sizing and expanded the screen to 29.5inch would a 32 inch model still have the market?
Still 24 :28 :32 is neat set of option.

A 42” iMac would have a sizable market across the world as would a desktop Mac similar to the old G4 dual cpu computer, but Apple refuses to make them…..

Huh?! In what world would people with enough desktop space or budget for a 42" screen be "sizeable" that would warrant making an all-in-one computer with that screen???

Sorry poor fellow my desk is 36” x 66” all hardwood from Crate and Barrel and it will out live me, just like the Dyson vacuum cleaner I have, which is 12 years old and next Mac I will buy may come close you see quality really does last, oh and my present car and my next car will out live me.

mattinoz said:

entropys said:

While I agree with MjTomlin that it would make sense to first completely populate the line up with M1s, Apple does need to beat the latest 12th gen  i9 based machines.
And in future, I would see one release date each year and the lot get the equivalent gen update at once. It’s just a SOC.

I would have thought there would be an array of changes they'd want to make to the SOC design to get to the full product line. I which case it would seem to me to worth rolling them out over a few generations to offset development cost but also let them reduce risk.  Desktops like the iMac give them a bit more freedom then MacBookPro wait for say another process improvement.

tenthousandthings said:

mattinoz said:

tenthousandthings said:

Someone in one of the other threads pointed out that Apple uses Max in their iPhone marketing. Thus,

iPhone : iPhone Pro : iPhone Pro Max

iMac : iMac Pro : iMac Pro Max

iPad : iPad Air : iPad Pro (2)
MacBook : MacBook Air : MacBook Pro (2)

Mac Mini : Mac Mini Pro : Mac Pro

Wouldn't that suggest a 24 iMac with and M1 Pro or M2 Pro then a larger screen model that is $200 more. 
Hey not knocking it sounds like a winner to me. 

I was thinking more 24 : 27 XDR : 32 XDR

I also think Apple is going to do something interesting with graphics in the desktop SoCs. 

If they keep case sizing and expanded the screen to 29.5inch would a 32 inch model still have the market?
Still 24 :28 :32 is neat set of option.

A 42” iMac would have a sizable market across the world as would a desktop Mac similar to the old G4 dual cpu computer, but Apple refuses to make them…..

To think the 40 hour work week as we know it in the United States is only about 108 years old….

 “On 5 January 1914 the Ford Motor Company took the radical step of doubling pay to $5 a day (adjusted for inflation: $129.55 as of 2020) and cut shifts from nine hours to eight, moves that were not popular with rival companies, although seeing the increase in Ford's productivity, and a significant increase in profit margin (from $30 million to $60 million in two years), most soon followed suit.

 In the summer of 1915, amid increased labor demand for World War I, a series of strikes demanding the eight-hour day began in Bridgeport, Connecticut. They were so successful that they spread throughout the Northeast. The United States Adamson Act in 1916 established an eight-hour day, with additional pay for overtime, for railroad workers. This was the first federal law that regulated the hours of workers in private companies. The United States Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Act in Wilson v. New, 243 U.S. 332 (1917).

 The eight-hour day might have been realized for many working people in the US in 1937, when what became the Fair Labor Standards Act (29 U.S. Code Chapter 8) was first proposed under the New Deal. As enacted, the act applied to industries whose combined employment represented about twenty percent of the US labor force. In those industries, it set the maximum workweek at 40 hours, but provided that employees working beyond 40 hours a week would receive additional overtime bonus salaries.”

 Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day#United_States

People forget Unions are the main reason for most of the benefits all workers get in the US. The fight started not long after 1776….

And not a Communist in sight…..

The iMac and the desktop Mac need to move on to the M series chips as soon as possible, the last cpu switch took 13 months…..

GeorgeBMac said:

What this guy misses is that, while Tesla is in the middle of and leading a new, bleeding edge industry, most of Apple's products are in mature industries -- so the spectacular great leaps forward are limited.

But, on the flip side of that:  What spectacular, great leaps has Tesla made recently?

What leaps? fit, finish, brakes, steering? the first adopters have Teslas, the next group of buyers will have more choice, that’s when the wheel comes off the cart.

The group won’t put up with this:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smGds4oz7cw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3daQ2HSg5pg