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gatorguy said:

tycho_macuser said:

gatorguy said:

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OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

A better question: How will Google Stadia, its streaming video game service, affect Apple Arcade? When you compare the quality of games, Stadia will be the hands down winner. The only question is whether Google can crack the video quality and latency issues.

No doubt impressive technology. But Stadia was designed by engineers thinking about themselves. How well does it work mobile? Does it load offline games? How do those play on $250 androids, you know the statistical middle ASP majority? 

If it works well on premium phones, it will be yet another reason to buy a high end iPhone. If it doesn’t, it will be limited to the, say the nicer minority of  installed base of Chromebooks and $1000 Galaxy S. That’s not a platform worth targeting with anything but ads. 

Dan, I don't think Stadia will need premium hardware to run on. A lowly $250 handset will manage. Read up on it a bit before making assumptions. 

These mythical people that are willing to pay a monthly fee to play games, because they feel a high-quality gaming experience on mobile is worth a significant ongoing expense, but weren’t willing to spend more than $250 on their mobile device because (conversely) they do NOT think it’s worth a few extra bucks to have decent hardware.... must all be on equally mythical unlimited plans that never slow down, since this gaming service eats 3-6gb/hr.

Find a bunch of these “unicorn” users & let Google know about them!!!

I'm sure they’ll be excited, since the vast majority of their users currently won’t pay $.99 for a game... no matter what. 

Desktops, laptops, Chromebooks, smart tv's, Chromecasts, eventually anything running the Chrome browser, and yes smartphones too likely including your iPhone via an app. It's definitely not intended for smartphones only. 

Lol, & Apple wanted people to play mobile games on their TVs as well... dunno if you’re aware, but it was NOT a success.
Turns out- people prefer to play mobile games on mobile devices.

I don’t think this little Google Labs experiment will be nearly as popular as you think it will.

In my opinion- the type of games you would want to be able to pick up & continue a few minutes here & a few minutes there, anywhere and on anything with Chrome browser, would be “casual” games & not necessarily need an extravagant off-device/server-based processing scheme whatsoever... whereas, high end 4K AAA style titles, a la’ PS4/XB1S, would be absolutely stunning & amazing to play on a modern TV sans video game system, but would not lend themselves to playing on the tube using your phone, or on the john, using your Chromebook, etc.

Another issue is pricing... Apple is suggesting replacing the ten $.99 games, or one or two $5-10 iOS games one may purchase in a month w/ a $10 subscription instead.
Hmmmm.... math checks out. Sounds like everyone will still make $.
If Google is trying to replace the one to two $60 console games one might buy in a month & any casual games one may buy, and actually the entire cost of the console as well... ummmm, wouldn’t they have to charge like $100+/mo for developers to come out equal?

gatorguy said:

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OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

A better question: How will Google Stadia, its streaming video game service, affect Apple Arcade? When you compare the quality of games, Stadia will be the hands down winner. The only question is whether Google can crack the video quality and latency issues.

No doubt impressive technology. But Stadia was designed by engineers thinking about themselves. How well does it work mobile? Does it load offline games? How do those play on $250 androids, you know the statistical middle ASP majority? 

If it works well on premium phones, it will be yet another reason to buy a high end iPhone. If it doesn’t, it will be limited to the, say the nicer minority of  installed base of Chromebooks and $1000 Galaxy S. That’s not a platform worth targeting with anything but ads. 

Dan, I don't think Stadia will need premium hardware to run on. A lowly $250 handset will manage. Read up on it a bit before making assumptions. 

These mythical people that are willing to pay a monthly fee to play games, because they feel a high-quality gaming experience on mobile is worth a significant ongoing expense, but weren’t willing to spend more than $250 on their mobile device because (conversely) they do NOT think it’s worth a few extra bucks to have decent hardware.... must all be on equally mythical unlimited plans that never slow down, since this gaming service eats 3-6gb/hr.

Find a bunch of these “unicorn” users & let Google know about them!!!

I'm sure they’ll be excited, since the vast majority of their users currently won’t pay $.99 for a game... no matter what. 

bloggerblog said:

Steve believed in giving regular people a chance to shine (examples Jony and Tim). Tim runs after successful people like a little girl at a Bieber concert. 

Ummmmm.... what tf are you talking about??
The only industrial designer I’ve ever heard in the same breath as Jony Ive, is the incomparable Dieter Rams. He’s won literally dozens of awards & is likely in the top 5 list of best industrial designers in the history of mankind. His designs have permanent spots in museums across the world. He was knighted, based solely on the enormity of impact his designs have had on the world, for crissake!!! 

Lol.... “regular people”, huh?

Lots of designers at other tech companies listed on the senior leadership pages?

Get real. Jony was/is an absolute legend in the field. 
He was well into his craft when he & Steve met... recognizing genius & hiring and giving great power/authority because of it is a VERY far cry from: “finding a regular person, and giving them a chance to shine”.

auxio said:

The fact that people take YouTube videos as truth is pretty scary.  It's entertainment folks.  Get your truth from reliable news sources.  And even then, double check and question everything.

Yup, lol.
There are literally billions of YouTube videos available & EVERY single one of them is staged, fake, and full of lies.
Anyone that believes a single word in a single video has feces for brains. 
Its so scary/frightening/petrifying/terrifying that anyone would believe anything anyone else says... ever.

We need to all be “smart” (or is it depressingly jaded?), like @auxio & be mistrustful of every single thing we come into contact with!

Lol, if I felt so terribly negative about YouTube content... I’d ban the site!
I happen to watch a lot of these science/physics/diy type of channels & I’d say- I can’t imagine having to constantly be “on guard” that I’m getting fleeced, with this type of content. The entire scientific community tends to value credulity. Further, were things as dire and widespread despicable as you claim; there’d be no outcry or story.
It’s precisely because you’re WRONG and this is indeed unusual behavior in this niche community, that the story exists at all.
Its mere existence handily refutes your claim.

deminsd said:

I bought one with the intention of using it for a couple months and then returning it after the holidays, as the holiday return policy is in effect where I bought it, so I have until FEB 11 to return anything.

The fact that NONE of the accessories I have for my iPad Pro 12.9 will work with this is a major issue for me.  I have to go buy everything all over again and at HIGHER prices?  

Is there a smart cover for the new 12.9 that detaches magnetically like the old one or is it a permanent part of the folio case?  I can't tell and I haven't seen or heard anything that says one way or the other.

I'm pretty happy with my old 256GB 12.9 iPad PRO and have all the accessories...it will take a lot for me to want to keep this new 12.9.

 Maybe you could just find some accessories that you could also just use for four months, then return? I’m sure there’s gotta be some kinda sleazy way you can replace your accessories without paying for them, like a normal person.
Bravo for all your effort!