Beats

He’s probably crying in his cave.

alezvic said:

Beats said:

Only for Android to come along and copy all the hard work. Imagine how that felt?

A huge corporation copying another big corporation, cry me a river. Kocienda got paid by Apple and kept being paid regardless. 

The real sad thing is when a big corporation copies a small team of devs who seamingly get their main source of revenue destroyed overnight.
Remove.bg, Camo, Pillbox from the top of my head, this WWDC alone. 
Watson, f.lux, Growl, Duet and Luna Display and many other before. 

Stealing trillions from Apple and undercutting them with knockoffs is sad. It’s easy to be a brat and take everything for granted after Apple did all the hard work claiming it’s no big deal. Reminds me of when iKnockoff morons claim “well, that was common sense”.  Why wasn’t it common sense in 1985? Why wasn’t it common sense in 2005 to BlackBerry, Samsung, Nokia and Microsoft?

shamino said:

Beats said:

It’s insane how much work Apple has to do to invent the first iPhone. Swiping, scrolling and pinch-to-zoom were insanely great innovations.

Apple may have been the first to deploy these technologies on a consumer device, but they didn't invent it.

Before there was any iPad/iPhone, we were all fascinated by multitouch UI demos produced by Jeff Han (researcher at NYU and founder of Perceptive Pixel, which was since acquired by Microsoft).  For example:

• Jeff Han's NYU homepage (not changed since 2006)
• His demo reel from 2006 no longer embeds in the web page (the required plugins stopped working in web browsers a long time ago), but you can download the MPEG video here: https://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/multitouchreel.mpg
  
• Jeff Han's TED Talk demo, from 2007

I don't think Apple ever used Jeff Han's code, and modern multitouch display panels use a completely different technology from what Han was using, but I can guarantee that lots of important people there (like the rest of us) saw these videos and drew inspiration from them.  Including swiping, scrolling and pinch-to-zoom operations.

Dismissing the hard work of Steve Jobs and Apple engineers because crappy resistive touch screens existed is ludicrous. I was heavy into futuristic cell phones in 2007 and had the highest rated Windows Mobile Phone and it was absolutely garbage compared to what iPhone brought. None of the ideas of Windows Mobile carried over to iPhone and it had none of the cool iPhone inventions like pinch to zoom. There were arrows everywhere in the UI and there was a “calibrate” setting I had to revisit every few days. This was a super high-tech phone in 2007, mobile keyboard and all!