waveparticle

OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

Perhaps if Apple opened up iOS, allowed side loading, removed most of the technological restrictions and generally made iOS into a real operating system (software designed to allow users to operate their computer system) iPhones would suddenly become really exciting again. I have to wonder why Apple's board of directors is allowing the management to prioritize control over profits?

AppleZulu said:

waveparticle said:

AppleZulu said:

waveparticle said:

GeorgeBMac said:

hexclock said:

waveparticle said:

hexclock said:

nicholfd said:

lkrupp said:

sdw2001 said:

maciekskontakt said:

I am touched. Wait a moment.I have never been on Twitter and left Facebook one year ago. Maybe changes to Meta and Dorsey leaving Twitter were result of that 

I quit both earlier this year.  Both are evil companies.  I don't suspect this will improve Twitter at all.  At Least Hipster Rasputin won't have his mug everywhere.  

Apple is not exactly a saint either. Maybe not ‘evil’ per se but tiptoeing around it sometimes.

WTF does Apple have to do with any of this?  They don't have a social media presence!

He’s not wrong though, as Apple sometimes treads in murky waters, especially in regard to China. 

In regard to Twitter, nothing will change about that company. Unfortunately he is still on at Square. 

Did Apple experience China haters' accusations in China? None! Nada! This is unlike what Twitter experienced in US. 

People in China are either not allowed to know what is going on, or afraid to speak of it if they do. 

Or perhaps they don't have professional propagandists spreading conspiracy theories.

This is correct answer. Unlike western countries people can spread any false information under protection of free speech, Chinese cannot spread false information. Anyone doing that will be dealt seriously. Think about it. Before the internet age, people can send opinion to newspapers. An opinion will be scrutinized by an editor before it may be published. Why it that? Because many people hold opinions that are contrary to facts. Some people here hate me because I post some facts that they don't like. I expose liars.

You are suggesting a binary situation where there is not a binary situation. Your statement is only correct if the official position of the Chinese government is always consistent with the truth. I would suggest that the more correct statement would be that 'Chinese cannot spread information that is inconsistent with the official position of the Chinese government, and that anyone doing that will be dealt [with] seriously.' 

Do you understand politics? I see Chinese government is very similar to all government. A government sole responsibility is to govern. If a government can not deal with people that refuse to follow order, the government becomes ineffective. You should also be very careful using the word truth. I have stated in this forum before. Finding truth is like the story of blind men and elephant. They want to find out the truth of what elephant looks like. Each man gives a statement of what he thinks the elephant looks like after touching it. Isn't each statement a fact? But each fact is far from the truth. Even all statements are not equal to truth. Western opinion on China is just like that. Many China haters produce facts about China. But they hide all facts that are in favor of China. Often they insert lies to the statements. 

This says it all, doesn't it?

For the record, I don't hate China. That would be a lot of people to hate, and I am not a hateful person.

Even if I were one of those blind people described above, I can certainly feel parts of that elephant, and I can definitely smell that elephant. While my understanding of the elephant may be incomplete, I know if there's an elephant there. As an informed citizen, I will probably even seek out educated elephant experts to tell me more about the elephant. Facts are facts. I may not be able to tell you if it's wearing a cute little hat, but I can reliably tell you it's definitely an elephant.

I am not interested in having a government that can then announce that there is no elephant, and if I don't affirmatively agree and state that "yes, there is no elephant," that government then has the power to deal with me. I prefer the US Constitution, where if the government officially denies the existence of the elephant in the room, enough of us plain old citizens who know better can vote out the elephant denier and vote for a new president who listens to scientists and other experts. At least so far, here in the West, that's how we citizens can deal with a bad government, like we just did a year ago.

AppleZulu said:

waveparticle said:

GeorgeBMac said:

hexclock said:

waveparticle said:

hexclock said:

nicholfd said:

lkrupp said:

sdw2001 said:

maciekskontakt said:

I am touched. Wait a moment.I have never been on Twitter and left Facebook one year ago. Maybe changes to Meta and Dorsey leaving Twitter were result of that 

I quit both earlier this year.  Both are evil companies.  I don't suspect this will improve Twitter at all.  At Least Hipster Rasputin won't have his mug everywhere.  

Apple is not exactly a saint either. Maybe not ‘evil’ per se but tiptoeing around it sometimes.

WTF does Apple have to do with any of this?  They don't have a social media presence!

He’s not wrong though, as Apple sometimes treads in murky waters, especially in regard to China. 

In regard to Twitter, nothing will change about that company. Unfortunately he is still on at Square. 

Did Apple experience China haters' accusations in China? None! Nada! This is unlike what Twitter experienced in US. 

People in China are either not allowed to know what is going on, or afraid to speak of it if they do. 

Or perhaps they don't have professional propagandists spreading conspiracy theories.

This is correct answer. Unlike western countries people can spread any false information under protection of free speech, Chinese cannot spread false information. Anyone doing that will be dealt seriously. Think about it. Before the internet age, people can send opinion to newspapers. An opinion will be scrutinized by an editor before it may be published. Why it that? Because many people hold opinions that are contrary to facts. Some people here hate me because I post some facts that they don't like. I expose liars.

You are suggesting a binary situation where there is not a binary situation. Your statement is only correct if the official position of the Chinese government is always consistent with the truth. I would suggest that the more correct statement would be that 'Chinese cannot spread information that is inconsistent with the official position of the Chinese government, and that anyone doing that will be dealt [with] seriously.' 

GeorgeBMac said:

hexclock said:

waveparticle said:

hexclock said:

nicholfd said:

lkrupp said:

sdw2001 said:

maciekskontakt said:

I am touched. Wait a moment.I have never been on Twitter and left Facebook one year ago. Maybe changes to Meta and Dorsey leaving Twitter were result of that 

I quit both earlier this year.  Both are evil companies.  I don't suspect this will improve Twitter at all.  At Least Hipster Rasputin won't have his mug everywhere.  

Apple is not exactly a saint either. Maybe not ‘evil’ per se but tiptoeing around it sometimes.

WTF does Apple have to do with any of this?  They don't have a social media presence!

He’s not wrong though, as Apple sometimes treads in murky waters, especially in regard to China. 

In regard to Twitter, nothing will change about that company. Unfortunately he is still on at Square. 

Did Apple experience China haters' accusations in China? None! Nada! This is unlike what Twitter experienced in US. 

People in China are either not allowed to know what is going on, or afraid to speak of it if they do. 

Or perhaps they don't have professional propagandists spreading conspiracy theories.