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blastdoor said:

gatorguy said:

blastdoor said:

gatorguy said:

blastdoor said:

gatorguy said:

Apple has gone a step further than the article mentions. It now wants to participate in Google's legal defense, concerned that Google cannot adequately protect both themselves and Apple's interests against the government's demands for a break-up. 

https://www.thurrott.com/apple/314883/apple-files-to-represent-itself-in-google-antitrust-remedy-proceedings

Reading this Cue quote:

The development of a search engine would require diverting both capital investment and employees because creating a search engine would cost billions of dollars and take many years. Search is rapidly evolving due to recent and ongoing developments in Artificial Intelligence, making it economically risky to devote the huge resources that would be required to create a search engine. 

makes it sound like not only should Google not be paying apple, but that apple should be paying Google. 

If Cue truly means this then it implies (1) Google is dumb for paying apple and (2) apple is dumb for pointing out that Google is dumb. 

But I think neither apple nor Google are dumb, which makes me think Cue doesn’t believe what he’s saying but does believe (or hopes) that the audience for his message is dumb. 

Wow, quite the leap in logic. 

Google is paying Apple for default placement, but not so that Apple doesn't create their own search engine. Both companies knew Apple wasn't planning one, something frenemies would understand. Google wanted a guaranteed fast track to Apple users and their shopping plans, worth about $40B/year in profit as of 2021 after paying Apple their cut. That's minimally $160B into Google coffers over the past four years and probably north of $200Billion. AS for Apple they got at least $80B for doing essentially nothing and at zero cost. Pure profit. Surely you understood why the two made a deal?

If there is no way that Apple would make their own search engine and regards googles search engine as best, why would Google pay apple $20 billion for default placement ? Love?

The didn't "pay Apple $20B for placement". They paid Apple $20B in 2021 because it worked out to be the contractually agreed on 1/3rd cut, perhaps a percentage or two higher, of search revenue Google collected from Safari searches. Default settings are rarely changed, which Google understands, an so id Microsoft who also wanted that default. More profit with less work, a LOT more and essentially guaranteed.

With Apple and Google it was not set at a flat $20B. It is percentage-based and could have been more or less based on how much profit Google realized. 

There's no other search provider who would have delivered better results for Apple, and there still isn't. Apple likes profit, and profit without effort is even better. 

You’re missing the forest for the chlorophyll in the leaves of the trees. 

If Google is clearly the best search engine that Apple really wants to use and Apple would never ever want to build their own, why does there need to be a contract? Why does there need to be any payments? 

Fred257 said:

The iPad is only useful for office work, artists and writers. Everything else is useful for a Mac. I have an iPad mini and for me it’s a passive device I use for media consumption. I will never waste my money on a thinner oiled iPad. I will never purchase another iPad ever again unless it runs Mac OS. It’s a complete waste of my money as the programs I use are only available on Mac OS 

Cesar Battistini Maziero said:

If that thing ran Mac OS, it would be an instant buy. 

pwrmac said:

Well well well.. Indonesia is building a new capital site so they need all the money they can get! Where to get "easy" money.. Yes from Apple. Just get out of the country Tim! Show you have a spine 😄

danox said:

Another example of why bureaucrats can’t run a business whether it’s the EU or the USA commerce department they are totally incompetent. What is also funny is that if you are private company and you become a victim of intellectual property theft (Chinese, Korean, or Israeli) the government throws their hands up and say you’re on your own we can’t do anything good luck file a report and the cooperation from the government seems to be only one way.

The Commerce Department/USDA should be more concerned about the meat crisis in the USA and why a Chinese company owns Smithfield, Farmer John and Nathan‘s hotdogs how does that happen? And to top it off Listeria seems to be everywhere in prepackaged food. With ten people dead and many people sick because of it in the latest outbreak after Boars head.