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  • The new Mac mini is a great machine, but a $499 model could serve a larger audience

    The market appears to be there for a $499 Mac mini, so the the only two questions left is whether Apple wants to enter that price-point again, or is capable of manufacturing a machine for that price. It certainly managed to build them right up to about last Tuesday when it finally replaced the $499 Mac mini with this new design.
    There isn't a real business case for re-entering the $499 market.  What's the advantage for Apple to trash ASPs and sell $499 machines instead $799 machines?  Would it really double Mac sales?  

    Apple is already going to lose more valuable iMac sales to Mini sales as the new minis have very high bang for the buck.

    And did Apple lose the edu market to Chromebooks or Google Docs?  You aren't going to beat $200 chromebooks with a $500 Mac when the $300 iPads can't make a significant dent.
  • First look at the new space gray 2018 Mac mini

    AI had posted geekbench benchmarks for the $800 i3 mini that were within spitting distance of the 2017 15” MBP.

    If those were correct then the i3 mini represents a great value.
  • Apple's powerful new Mac mini perfectly suits the 'Pro' market, yet the complaints have al...

    pakitt said:
    The Mac Mini was launched and intended as an affordable Mac option for migrating PC users to the macOS world. The basic version was less than 500$. It seems that everybody forgets that. Now the Mini is clearly something else. It is not the "most affordable Mac desktop" anymore. Period. The price, the specs, everything indicates their strategy for this product has radically changed. You want an "affordable" Mac? get an iOS iPad/iPhone. macOS for the "masses"? None for you.
    It certainly is the "most affordable Mac desktop".  Which iMac is cheaper?  None.

    Your comment is demonstrably wrong.
  • First look at the new space gray 2018 Mac mini

    tylersdad said:
    toxicman said:
    Seriously!  A fully configured Mac Mini without keyboard, mouse and monitor is over $4299!

    for what?  I7 6 core, with 64gb ram and a 1.5tb SSD.   That’s a $1800 PC.  Come on apple.  Get real.  
    Who’s forcing you to order the maxed-out top-tier machine? Are you OK? Do you need help?

    Oh, you’re just whining about price. Would it make you feel better if Apple didn’t offer that top-tier? If everyone of all income-levels had to buy the same exact lower-tier machine? Would that make it better?
    Even the lower spec'd machines are ridiculously overpriced. I guess some people don't mind paying for "awesome engineering as a feature". Count me out. The value proposition just isn't there. And don't give me that crap about Apple using more awesomer components than every other computer manufacturer. They source the same parts as every other manufacturer. They don't get better Intel I3 chips. They don't get better RAM. They don't get better hard drives. 

    Core i7 comparison

    $1849 - 21.5" 4K iMac 3.6GHz Quad Core i7 w/ 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD, Radeon Pro 555 2GB DDR5 

    $1774 - 28" 4K Samsung UHD monitor ($295) 
    Mac mini 3.2GHz Hexa Core i7 ($1229) w/16GB RAM (Amazon $150), logitech keyboard/mouse ($100) and 256GB SSD, Intel UHD Graphics 630

    $2224- 28" 4K Samsung UHD monitor ($295) Mac mini 3.2GHz Hexa Core i7 ($1229) w/16GB RAM (Amazon $150), logitech keyboard/mouse ($100) and 256GB SSD, Sonnet eGFX 550W ($270) + Radeon RX560 4GB DDR5 ($180)

    $2599 - 27" 5K iMac 4.2GHz Quad Core i7 w/16GB RAM and 256GB SSD, Radeon Pro 575 4GB DDR5

    Base iMac comparison

    $1049 21.5" iMac 2.3GHz Dual Core i5, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, 1920x1080 Display, Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640
    $1100 24" Mac mini 3.6 Ghz Quad Core i3, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, ViewSonic 2560x1440 IPS Display ($221), Logitiech Keyboard & Mouse $100, Intel UHD Graphics 630

    The Mac Mini is priced very reasonably.

    If you think the Mac mini is "ridiculously overpriced" then Macs simply aren't for you.  I would suggest this forum is more your speed:  

    All of this price whining is just stupid.  The Mac mini sits between the two iMacs in both price and performance.  If Apple releases the mini on a regular basis then it becomes a much better deal than the iMac since you get to reuse the monitor, keyboard and mouse.
  • Apple's new Mac mini finally arrives with 5X performance, Thunderbolt 3, more

    So, they went from a base-priced Mac Mini of $499 to a base-priced Mac Mini of $799 (and no one with any sense would buy one with 128GB of storage)? I realize they beefed them up considerably, but at that price-point, I just don't see it being a choice over an iMac or a portable.
    The 3.2Ghz 6 core i7 Mini is $1299 with 8GB RAM 256GB SSD.  $150 for 16GB of RAM from Amazon.  Logitech Keyboard & mouse - $100.  Sony 4K KD43X720E HDTV. $498.



    The 21.5" iMac 3.6Ghz Quad core with 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD is  $1999.

    Yeah, I'd pick the mini even given the iMac comes with a Radeon Pro 555.  I use the Sony with my MacPro 15" and it's freaking awesome as a monitor.

    The Sonnet eGFX 550W is down to $270 on B&H.  A RX560 with 4GB DDR5 is $180.  So call it around $450 for a eGPU.  So $2500 for a 6 core i7 Mac with a decent GPU.

    That's on par with the 27" iMac 4.2Ghz Quad Core i7 at $2599 and a Redoan Pro 575 with 4GB DDR5.

    Slower 6 core vs faster 4 core.  Larger screen with less resolution (4K vs 5K).  Both can upgrade RAM but not SSD.

    Yeah, I'd get that over the 27" iMac as well.