My wife, for example, is playing lots of Facebook games and for her, Flash is deal breaker. She would like tablet to get confy in armchair and feed her cows and chicken and whatsoever, but as it is, it is going to be some sort of ULV laptop for her.
Want to be that Farmville will be ported to the iPad within 6 months? Zygna is already an iPhone developer.
Want to be that Farmville will be ported to the iPad within 6 months? Zygna is already an iPhone developer.
And we know Adobe introduced a method to convert Flash to iPhone SDK. With an app as involved as Farmville I'm sure the mouse pointer take a lot of reworking for a touchscreen, but I'm sure it's coming. With 80M users it's just too important to support touch-based devices.
It has no resemblance to the AppleTV. The iPad is based on a proven platform and software ecosystem. And developers and content providers are already behind the iPad.
This isn't some first-time blind experiment for Apple. Like you love to say, it's a big iPod Touch. Which is exactly why it will be successful. This is a major handheld platform push by Apple - an area which they know better than anyone else. This isn't some experimental TV media-server.
And we know Adobe introduced a method to convert Flash to iPhone SDK. With an app as involved as Farmville I'm sure the mouse pointer take a lot of reworking for a touchscreen, but I'm sure it's coming. With 80M users it's just too important to support touch-based devices.
I'm with ya again on this (Farmville and Flash CS5 conversion), and once again will take it a step further.
I plan on purchasing 3 for my immediate family members: parents, In-Laws, and nephew (sister really) around September.
By that time:
? OS 4.0 will surely be available and working with "limited" multi-tasking abilities;
? the iPad 3rd-party Eco-system will be rolling strong i.e. add-ons, like possibly an affordable BT camera for those that need/want one;
? launch statistics at ~3 mil. iPads sold worldwide, released at the WWDC June 8-12. When the jaws are picked up from the floor, those websites that haven't done so already, will be in a flurry of activity to reduce their reliance on anything Flash related on their sites that isn't done better (or the same functionality) using standards compliant code.
? come Sept./Oct. in time for the Holiday Season buying, 90% of all websites that matter, will be iPad compatible and friendly for browsing.
? a huge number of Flash CS5 converted apps/games will be on the Apple Store.
? Back-To-School numbers will amaze in Nov., and Jan/Feb will see Apple throw the bomb that they've sold 10 mil plus iPads for the Fiscal year. AAPL stock will be somewhere around $270.-
? I'm even gonna give Adobe a break here, and bet that they will finally have Flash working acceptably on the Mac.... and while still not available on Apple's mobile devices (and not working smoothly with others), will have filled the hole with Flash's ability to write to stand-alone and compliant Apps.
? Flash-only advertisers will have to find a different way to get their message out.
? ADBE will be in the mid $40.- range.
? After all that, "T-Dud", "X-Scat-er", "iJeanny", and "Da-Uhd" will no longer be with us after going on temper-tantrums in their respective cities, and smashing iPad-filled Starbucks, body-slamming teen-girls with iPads, and dumping Grand-Mas out of their wheelchairs for wanting to buy one. They'll be sadly dragged away muttering incomprehensible sentences like, "Quadra610-its-only-a-cgc0202-big-touch-sux-no-Flash-Solipsism"
Flash is a multi-million $$ making application- used from news , games, advertising, to porn and back again - it's not going anywhere.
Thanks for the link- how will anyone view the web on his/her iPad?
I've had the iPod Touch for some time and now upgraded to an iPhone. I have to say from a personal experience the number of times where I've not been able to open a Flash page have been very few, and it hasn't bothered me in the slightest.
If a page was that important to me, I could open it on my desktop back at home, but I have never felt the need to, so I could care less.
You mention Flash for news, games, advertising, and porn. I regularly read news features, but never bother with any of the rest, so Flash, or the lack of it doesn't really affect me and I'm sure the majority of potential iPad users will feel the same. Obviously, if you're into hard gaming the iPad is not for you, but I daresay before too long there may be PC versions optimised for the iPad.
Personally I am not interested in the iPad, but that's my own choice, millions of others will love it.
I? I'm even gonna give Adobe a break here, and bet that they will finally have Flash working acceptably on the Mac.... and while still not available on Apple's mobile devices (and not working smoothly with others), will have filled the hole with Flash's ability to write to stand-alone and compliant Apps.
There is word from one blogger on Adobe's site pointing to Core Animation finally being used for HW Acceleration on Macs. It's about time! Hopefully we'll get some Betas by this summer.
If Adobe really want to show Apple and everyone else that that are serious about Flash on iPhones they need to start with the Mac. 64-bit Flash with Core Animation should have been ready before Snow Leopard launched.
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? After all that, "T-Dud", "X-Scat-er", "iJeanny", and "Da-Uhd" will no longer be with us after going on temper-tantrums in their respective cities, and smashing iPad-filled Starbucks, body-slamming teen-girls with iPads, and dumping Grand-Mas out of their wheelchairs for wanting to buy one. They'll be sadly dragged away muttering incomprehensible sentences like, "Quadra610-its-only-a-cgc0202-big-touch-sux-no-Flash-Solipsism"
I hope they'll be gone but they always find something else to complain about. TeckStud being the best of them when it comes to "I never said that" despite having being to call up his foolishness at any time.
The streaming radio App I use on my iPhone (Triple M) has an option to open the stream in Safari, you close it and continues playing in the background while you do other stuff, is that what you mean by the same?
If Pandora can't do this it's obviously a problem with the App, contact the developer.
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Someone else used Pandora as an example. You can use any number of examples and the result is still the same.
So they did a survey and found that MORE people are interested in the iPad than the iPhone and you claim the opposite - with absolutely no evidence.
Now, the survey could be wrong, but it's far more likely that your mindless, anonymous speculation is in error.
No evidence? It's just a thought of mine based on the fact that this survey is based on current iPhone users. 16% of current iPhone users may buy the iPad. It's not indicative of a wider statistic that 16% of Ameericans in general will buy the iPad.
So I think my initial comment was reasonable. The iPad doesn't have the same appeal overall as the iPhone did/does. I think it will be successful, and maybe even more than most people think - eventually. But it just doesn't have the same appeal as the iPhone does, generally speaking.
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My wife, for example, is playing lots of Facebook games and for her, Flash is deal breaker. She would like tablet to get confy in armchair and feed her cows and chicken and whatsoever, but as it is, it is going to be some sort of ULV laptop for her.
Want to be that Farmville will be ported to the iPad within 6 months? Zygna is already an iPhone developer.
Want to be that Farmville will be ported to the iPad within 6 months? Zygna is already an iPhone developer.
And we know Adobe introduced a method to convert Flash to iPhone SDK. With an app as involved as Farmville I'm sure the mouse pointer take a lot of reworking for a touchscreen, but I'm sure it's coming. With 80M users it's just too important to support touch-based devices.
AppleTV meet ApplePad.
It has no resemblance to the AppleTV. The iPad is based on a proven platform and software ecosystem. And developers and content providers are already behind the iPad.
This isn't some first-time blind experiment for Apple. Like you love to say, it's a big iPod Touch. Which is exactly why it will be successful. This is a major handheld platform push by Apple - an area which they know better than anyone else. This isn't some experimental TV media-server.
And we know Adobe introduced a method to convert Flash to iPhone SDK. With an app as involved as Farmville I'm sure the mouse pointer take a lot of reworking for a touchscreen, but I'm sure it's coming. With 80M users it's just too important to support touch-based devices.
I'm with ya again on this (Farmville and Flash CS5 conversion), and once again will take it a step further.
I plan on purchasing 3 for my immediate family members: parents, In-Laws, and nephew (sister really) around September.
By that time:
? OS 4.0 will surely be available and working with "limited" multi-tasking abilities;
? the iPad 3rd-party Eco-system will be rolling strong i.e. add-ons, like possibly an affordable BT camera for those that need/want one;
? launch statistics at ~3 mil. iPads sold worldwide, released at the WWDC June 8-12. When the jaws are picked up from the floor, those websites that haven't done so already, will be in a flurry of activity to reduce their reliance on anything Flash related on their sites that isn't done better (or the same functionality) using standards compliant code.
? come Sept./Oct. in time for the Holiday Season buying, 90% of all websites that matter, will be iPad compatible and friendly for browsing.
? a huge number of Flash CS5 converted apps/games will be on the Apple Store.
? Back-To-School numbers will amaze in Nov., and Jan/Feb will see Apple throw the bomb that they've sold 10 mil plus iPads for the Fiscal year. AAPL stock will be somewhere around $270.-
? I'm even gonna give Adobe a break here, and bet that they will finally have Flash working acceptably on the Mac.... and while still not available on Apple's mobile devices (and not working smoothly with others), will have filled the hole with Flash's ability to write to stand-alone and compliant Apps.
? Flash-only advertisers will have to find a different way to get their message out.
? ADBE will be in the mid $40.- range.
? After all that, "T-Dud", "X-Scat-er", "iJeanny", and "Da-Uhd" will no longer be with us after going on temper-tantrums in their respective cities, and smashing iPad-filled Starbucks, body-slamming teen-girls with iPads, and dumping Grand-Mas out of their wheelchairs for wanting to buy one. They'll be sadly dragged away muttering incomprehensible sentences like, "Quadra610-its-only-a-cgc0202-big-touch-sux-no-Flash-Solipsism"
Flash is a multi-million $$ making application- used from news , games, advertising, to porn and back again - it's not going anywhere.
Thanks for the link- how will anyone view the web on his/her iPad?
I've had the iPod Touch for some time and now upgraded to an iPhone. I have to say from a personal experience the number of times where I've not been able to open a Flash page have been very few, and it hasn't bothered me in the slightest.
If a page was that important to me, I could open it on my desktop back at home, but I have never felt the need to, so I could care less.
You mention Flash for news, games, advertising, and porn. I regularly read news features, but never bother with any of the rest, so Flash, or the lack of it doesn't really affect me and I'm sure the majority of potential iPad users will feel the same. Obviously, if you're into hard gaming the iPad is not for you, but I daresay before too long there may be PC versions optimised for the iPad.
Personally I am not interested in the iPad, but that's my own choice, millions of others will love it.
how will anyone view the web on his/her iPad?
Launch the browser. That's how I do it and it seems to work.
I? I'm even gonna give Adobe a break here, and bet that they will finally have Flash working acceptably on the Mac.... and while still not available on Apple's mobile devices (and not working smoothly with others), will have filled the hole with Flash's ability to write to stand-alone and compliant Apps.
There is word from one blogger on Adobe's site pointing to Core Animation finally being used for HW Acceleration on Macs. It's about time! Hopefully we'll get some Betas by this summer.
If Adobe really want to show Apple and everyone else that that are serious about Flash on iPhones they need to start with the Mac. 64-bit Flash with Core Animation should have been ready before Snow Leopard launched.
? After all that, "T-Dud", "X-Scat-er", "iJeanny", and "Da-Uhd" will no longer be with us after going on temper-tantrums in their respective cities, and smashing iPad-filled Starbucks, body-slamming teen-girls with iPads, and dumping Grand-Mas out of their wheelchairs for wanting to buy one. They'll be sadly dragged away muttering incomprehensible sentences like, "Quadra610-its-only-a-cgc0202-big-touch-sux-no-Flash-Solipsism"
...I can dream can't I?
Flash is a multi-million $$ making application- used from news , games, advertising, to porn and back again - it's not going anywhere.
Thanks for the link- how will anyone view the web on his/her iPad?
If Pandora can't do this it's obviously a problem with the App, contact the developer.
Someone else used Pandora as an example. You can use any number of examples and the result is still the same.
Originally Posted by jragosta
So they did a survey and found that MORE people are interested in the iPad than the iPhone and you claim the opposite - with absolutely no evidence.
Now, the survey could be wrong, but it's far more likely that your mindless, anonymous speculation is in error.
No evidence? It's just a thought of mine based on the fact that this survey is based on current iPhone users. 16% of current iPhone users may buy the iPad. It's not indicative of a wider statistic that 16% of Ameericans in general will buy the iPad.
So I think my initial comment was reasonable. The iPad doesn't have the same appeal overall as the iPhone did/does. I think it will be successful, and maybe even more than most people think - eventually. But it just doesn't have the same appeal as the iPhone does, generally speaking.