Ballmer: Microsoft's brand 'means something' to users]

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  • Reply 101 of 218
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


    There's another possibility: he has to defend his products. He has no other choice. I mean, he can't just come out and say, "yeah, we got nothin folks so you can all go run back to your iPhones and iPads." No CEO could say that in public. It's his job to sell what Microsoft brung to the market. If he doesn't defend Microsoft in public, the Board will certainly have grounds to fire him.



    Still, I miss the sweaty "monkey boy dance" of classic Ballmer, when they were on top of the world.



    It's called "selling what you have in the wagon"!



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  • Reply 102 of 218
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
    Please do more than read the headlines ...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cubert View Post


    And he actually said it all with a straight face. He's so thoroughly convinced himself that what he says is actually true I bet he could even pass a lie detector test.,



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SailorPaul View Post


    Did Ballmer visit a medical marijuana store in a western state just before this interview? The quality of Ballmer's comments prove that he inhaled -- many, many, many times-- before speaking such rubbish.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by brannman27 View Post


    This guy continues to prove over & over again that he is in denial and completely delusional.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by danyak View Post


    OMG OMG OMG And this guy is running Microsoft - into the ground! Even if one were brain dead, just read the stupid surveys and studies! Few brands today are as valuable - mean as much to consumers - as Apple.



    Watch the interview ... not once does he say what AI is claiming ... not once. I'm not a fan of MSF but, in this case, AI is doing a great disservice to SB and, frankly, to us .... it's own customer base. Quite frankly, AI, I'm disappointed in you. With this kind of distortion of the facts you are showing yourself to be nothing short of "The National Enquirer" of the tech sites. I expected more from you.
  • Reply 103 of 218
    Does Steve B always have to speak to the media? He does have Vps and pr people. Get somebody. Anybody. Steve Jobs lets Phil, Tim, and Johnathan speak for apple.
  • Reply 104 of 218
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by grking View Post


    Sure it is. Two different companies, two different approaches to the phone and OS.



    Did you miss this part of my post? ....previous offerings from MSF
  • Reply 105 of 218
    First up, how the hell does MS think they are going to win with hardware being produced and managed by 3rd party celly makers? Makes no sense. The only thing MS will get are royalties from the their mobile OS. MS wants nothing to do with cell phone hardware.

    Secondly, the tablet thing. MS will do their classic formula. they will make the OS to be played on the so-called tablet format that they license to every effing OEM on earth. Then they will sit on their a** and wait for the checks to roll in.



    In the meanwhile the MS tablet will get saturated and cheap as each maker tries outdoing one another. Eventually the evolution of the MS tablet will have come into full effect with almost no innovation left on its godda*** bones.

    This will inevitably lead to gimmicky products like hello effing kitty or Justin Beiber(licensed product cause by time this thing happens Beiber, for instance, will be on celebrity big brother getting his a** kick by Suge Knght) tablets.



    Need I say more?
  • Reply 106 of 218
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,697member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by danyak View Post


    Yeah, and we chose our water company, electric company, and garbage collectors because their "brands" and performance mean so much to us!



    The analogies are pretty good especially the last one.
  • Reply 107 of 218
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,697member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kung Fu Guy View Post


    Does Steve B always have to speak to the media? He does have Vps and pr people. Get somebody. Anybody. Steve Jobs lets Phil, Tim, and Johnathan speak for apple.



    Megalomania comes to mind.
  • Reply 108 of 218
    grkinggrking Posts: 533member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by newbee View Post


    Did you miss this part of my post? ....previous offerings from MSF



    I saw what you wrote, I just don't believe that we are dealing with the "old" MS anymore, in spite of what most people here seem to believe
  • Reply 109 of 218
    .



    "Da's a hol' lotta' iPadin' goin' on out dare"...



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  • Reply 110 of 218
    nijiniji Posts: 288member
    i have tried to understand what he is trying to say.

    but its impossible.

    the windows brand does not stand for quality or reliability.

    it does still stand for:

    - large, global reach

    what else? maybe now it only represents negative things like:

    - large initial roll-outs that attract no attention and eventually are shelved

    - me-too products

    - lack of innovation

    - lack of attention to detail



    More than anything else, Microsoft's inability to partner one-on-one with its thousands of companies that roll out windows based products and therefore still not being able to control or shape the end user experience is what has killed Microsoft.



    When Jobs comments that Microsoft has "no taste" it is a short hand way of saying that the end user experience is not important to Microsoft.



    So what does the Microsoft brand mean to users? Not a whole lot these days.



    And the board of directors of Microsoft is responsible for not having removed Ballmer 5 to 6 years ago.
  • Reply 111 of 218
    Has anyone noticed that he ipad gets no freaking viruses? Ha!

    I have the 16 gig wifi+3G and using it is amazing!

    Apple purposely f***** the pc industry up to surpass them with the ipad, IMHO. And as MS and their OEMs try besting the ipad they will bury their own bloated pc industry.

    And since the MS tablet will be as cheap as a 25 cent h**er expect a race o the bottom. Like always.
  • Reply 112 of 218
    Doesn't mean it means something good.
  • Reply 113 of 218
    eluardeluard Posts: 319member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zaphodsplanet View Post


    Okay, I'm sorry but WHAT IN THE HELL is up with the dude interviewing Ballmer. Looks like he's wearing a sweater he took out of his sisters closet, then stole his grandmothers glasses....



    Or are we all supposed to pretend he's a girl? And that freaking girl hairstyle..... which he doesn't pull off at all.... is he also wearing a bra?



    Is this an idiot who can't accept he was born with a Penis? As for the MS phone..... Lame as always..... I'd be surprised if Gates throws out Ballmer though. He's such an incredible dork that he actually makes Gates look slightly less dorky.



    I'm sorry... I still can't get over the CNET interviewer..... Gag!



    It seems Ina Fried is a male who has had a sex change to become a female. (Says so at the bottom of the interview.) Agree about the choice of sweater -- not so good.
  • Reply 114 of 218
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by niji View Post


    i have tried to understand what he is trying to say.

    but its impossible.

    the windows brand does not stand for quality or reliability.

    it does still stand for:

    - large, global reach

    what else? maybe now it only represents negative things like:

    - large initial roll-outs that attract no attention and eventually are shelved

    - me-too products

    - lack of innovation

    - lack of attention to detail



    More than anything else, Microsoft's inability to partner one-on-one with its thousands of companies that roll out windows based products and therefore still not being able to control or shape the end user experience is what has killed Microsoft.



    When Jobs comments that Microsoft has "no taste" it is a short hand way of saying that the end user experience is not important to Microsoft.



    So what does the Microsoft brand mean to users? Not a whole lot these days.



    And the board of directors of Microsoft is responsible for not having removed Ballmer 5 to 6 years ago.



    To be fair, MSFT's target market is not consumers-- rather it is IT/Enterprise. And, it plays that game as well as anyone.



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  • Reply 115 of 218
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    It's called "selling what you have in the wagon"!



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    In a lime green plaid suit!
  • Reply 116 of 218
    rot'napplerot'napple Posts: 1,839member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    With Ballmer recently claiming during an analyst meeting that forging an iPad rival is priority No. 1,...



    It must be nice for Microsoft to be shown the way to their priority No. 1's all the time... Vista/Windows7, Zune, Marketplace, Windows phone 7, and now their version of the iPad... makes me wonder what would become of MS if left to their own devices without the aid of Apple's inspiration and R&D?
  • Reply 117 of 218
    Yeah Microsoft means something... it means crappy software made by a evil company with no culture that is run by an idiot.
  • Reply 118 of 218
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    Originally Posted by ChickenHawk View Post


    There's not promoting your competitors, and then there's groundless trash talk that makes you look like an idiot. Other CEOs seem to have a more respectful stump time along the lines of "We respect what X are doing, but thing Y is a better direction for what our consumers want"



    Throwing chairs and stomping on your employees' iPhones?

    Ballmer's all class, baby.
  • Reply 119 of 218
    grkinggrking Posts: 533member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post


    It must be nice for Microsoft to be shown the way to their priority No. 1's all the time... Vista/Windows7, Zune, Marketplace, Windows phone 7, and now their version of the iPad... makes me wonder what would become of MS if left to their own devices without the aid of Apple's inspiration and R&D?



    Are you really going to believe AI after what they did with this story
  • Reply 120 of 218
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by grking View Post


    Are you really going to believe AI after what they did with this story



    Hey, Cool it! Most of your posts have been rational... everyone is entitled to learn by their mistakes.



    Balmer, AI, you and especially me!



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