Sprint counters Verizon iPhone 4 with dual-screen Android phone

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  • Reply 101 of 171
    I am seriously disappointed and pissed. I was really REALLY hoping Sprint was going to get the iPhone and we would have it on three carriers in the U.S. This would have led to more competition- just look at what kind of concessions ATT is making! And Apple made a point of saying that the deal with Verizon was non exclusive. Some on Sprint! Get the iPhone or you are dead! No one has the excuse of "I won't go to ATT because their coverage sucks" anymore...
  • Reply 102 of 171
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,776member
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    Originally Posted by iansilv View Post


    I am seriously disappointed and pissed. I was really REALLY hoping Sprint was going to get the iPhone and we would have it on three carriers in the U.S. This would have led to more competition- just look at what kind of concessions ATT is making! And Apple made a point of saying that the deal with Verizon was non exclusive. Some on Sprint! Get the iPhone or you are dead! No one has the excuse of "I won't go to ATT because their coverage sucks" anymore...



    Got to think it will happen in a year or so. I forget now, did Verizon get a deal with Apple to hold it to them and AT&T or was that just a rumor?
  • Reply 103 of 171
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    Just imagine if Apple had done dual screens, Google's offspring would now have three or four!



    Mmmm....



    Why stop at three or four -- let's kick this around:









    Now, that would be Rad!



    To surf the web, you'd voice enter the search terms and then rotate the device -- little yellow tiles, with hits on them, would float to the surface from inside...



    Think of all the potential new gestures -- like the bicycle-flick, scissors, Rivelino move, long dribble, etc.









    http://www.korthalsaltes.com/model.p...%20icosahedron
  • Reply 104 of 171
    one of those ideas that on first look seem interesting to the designers and engineers themselves, but which are nothing but downright idiotic from a design and function stand point, and from an engineering standpoint too (battery life etc.)
  • Reply 105 of 171
    ibillibill Posts: 400member
    Meh. Sprint, call me when you get iPhone.



    Will Sprint ever get iPhone?
  • Reply 106 of 171
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member
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    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    What you call bashing is often a very neutral or fair stance. You remind me of all the right wing nutjobs that have gotten so used to Fox News' far right bias that they view every OTHER news network as far left!



    And you remind me of all the sheeple who got so used to how far left the mainstream news drifted left for decade after decade that a single alternative to the PC (hint: not Personal Computers) chorus not only shocks you, but requires you to take every opportunity to blast it as "far right" until that becomes an excuse for everyone else to ignore that there are other voices in the country.



    And we can all happily get back to hastening the decline and fall of the American republic by perfecting it with government and intellectual hegemony.



    You will of course win. All empires get soft and inward looking and in time unable to resist the barbarians at their gates.



    (sigh)
  • Reply 107 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    What you call bashing is often a very neutral or fair stance. You remind me of all the right wing nutjobs that have gotten so used to Fox News' far right bias that they view every OTHER news network as far left!



    You remind me of the left wing nutjobs that are so used to the other networks far left bias they view anything else as far right.



    There is no such thing as a centrist news network in the US. Take out Fox and the people in the industry consistantly vote for and donate to Democrats about 20 times as much as Republicans while the country itself is rarely more than a few % points off of 50/50. If you can not see the massive bias in the US media, it means you are blind.



    OTOH, I agree with your main point. If you give Android any credit for its good points or fairly critisize Apple for their shortcomings, you get labeled a fandroid or a troll. There are very few here capable of looking at the products for what they are worth and using their brains to reasonably consider the good and the bad. The iPhone 4 is my favorite of the currently available smartphones, but it is far from perfect. I don't like any of the Android offerings as much, but several are far from junk.
  • Reply 108 of 171
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    Originally Posted by Smiles77 View Post


    ...It has a 2nd gen Snapdragon 1GHz processor, and costs $100 on contract after a $100 rebate...



    I disagree with your disagreement - I think.



    Your specs and price are in conflict with the article. I am not saying you are wrong but can you back up the price and specs.
  • Reply 109 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigpics View Post


    And you remind me of all the sheeple who got so used to how far left the mainstream news drifted left for decade after decade that a single alternative to the PC (hint: not Personal Computers) chorus not only shocks you, but requires you to take every opportunity to blast it as "far right" until that becomes an excuse for everyone else to ignore that there are other voices in the country. ...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AIaddict View Post


    You remind me of the left wing nutjobs that are so used to the other networks far left bias they view anything else as far right. ...



    Sorry, guys, but he's right about the Fox propaganda machine.
  • Reply 110 of 171
    lilgto64lilgto64 Posts: 1,147member
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    Originally Posted by pridon View Post


    2 screens to break instead of 1. Does it do 3D?



    Sure - you could turn it sideways - hang a divider sheet between the screens - and then present two images that are resolved by your eyes/brain into a 3D view - much like some scientific magazines use to print 3D images of proteins or DNA.



    I am not finding a good web reference - the top few items here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy are what I am getting at - if you have two entirely separate images that are slightly different from each other and you place a divider between them so only one eye can see each image - bingo - 3D.



    It is the same basic concept used by all 3D viewing - but difficult to pull of for a room full of people or from a distance (well, more likely impossible to use that technique for more than one person 12 inches from the screen). All the blue/red or polarized or blinking 3D glasses are effectively doing the same thing - only allowing a 2D image comprising half the total image to each eye - where you the viewer process it back into a single 3D image.



    Well - okay maybe its not exactly half the image content - but you get the idea - the components of the image necessary for the 3D effect are divided between the two eyes ether mechanically as with a divider - or via a filter such as blue/red or polarized - or entirely blocking each eye in turn at a high enough frequency.



    Although I am not how well it would work if the two screens cannot be opened up flat relatively to each other to be in the same plane - with each at an angle it might limit the distance form which the effect works properly but then that may also be true of a flat image area as well.
  • Reply 111 of 171
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
    It's battery-draining gimmicks like these that make me so grateful that Apple finally brought quality and sanity to the smartphone world. It amazes me that these handset makers continue to dish out as much trash as ever.
  • Reply 112 of 171
    Often times, when working on my phone, I wish I could have more than 1 thing open at a time to view. Be it 2 web pages, or email and a web page, etc.



    I could see a concept with 2 screens working. Essentially, you could create 2 independent systems and have a UI somehow decide which screen the app opens up on. No special programming needs by the developers as apps still only use one screen at a time. Separate processor cores for each app to again simplify.



    Yep, I could see this happening.
  • Reply 113 of 171
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    Of course I do. You're biased. That's how that works.



    Right here, you are literally talking out of your ass trying to find reasons to not like this thing, all based on opinion and assumptions alone. Why? Oh because Apple didn't make it.



    AI is the equivalent of Fox News with Apple related news. Did we ever get a follow up on that INCORRECT 16% return rate for the galaxy tab? Turns out it was only 2%, and every other tech news site I visit DID follow up. Not here. Not at Fox Ne--- I mean, Apple Insider.



    There was nothing to correct, Samsung will not provide any numbers to back up any of their claims so the survey is the best we go on. Just because Samsung claims a 2% return rate does not mean they have seen 2% return versus the 2 million they put in the channel, which may be 16% of the 100k they actually sold to customers.





    Why would you correct a story when no one has ever provided any evidence that it was factually incorrect.
  • Reply 114 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Damn_Its_Hot View Post


    I disagree with your disagreement - I think.



    Your specs and price are in conflict with the article. I am not saying you are wrong but can you back up the price and specs.



    My specs are from Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/s...nounced-we-go/



    They usually know what they're talking about as far as specs go. Pricing I checked on and you're right, I've corrected that in my original post.
  • Reply 115 of 171


    Or even this:



    AG Bear



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0B-Xfl__Gc&NR=1



    These were made by Nolan Bushnell in 1985. They gained instant popularity -- we even sold them in our computer stores in Silicon Valley.



    One customer, an insurance executive, was setting up LANs of Macs for claims processing. He would make trips to various outlying branch offices to install and train personnel.



    He woud load up the back seat of his car with AG Bears for the long drive -- then get a "conversation" or a "sing-along" started to keep him company.



    He would give each claims processor person an AG Bear.



    He always kept 3 for the long ride back.



    ... True Story!
  • Reply 116 of 171
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,776member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    Mmmm....



    Why stop at three or four -- let's kick this around:









    Now, that would be Rad!



    To surf the web, you'd voice enter the search terms and then rotate the device -- little yellow tiles, with hits on them, would float to the surface from inside...



    Think of all the potential new gestures -- like the bicycle-flick, scissors, Rivelino move, long dribble, etc.









    http://www.korthalsaltes.com/model.p...%20icosahedron



    I'm speechless ... but are you sure you are not leaking SJ's next plan?



    BTW I love your footer, it crossed my mind a few times when the economy got rough . Having said that, it's the bankers who should have been wearing the masks these last few years!
  • Reply 117 of 171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GmanMac View Post


    How thick is this thing? I noticed the demo video was very careful to not show a shot of the thickness when folded together.



    Would be rather entertaining to find out that it is the first cube phone.



    Edit: Not quite as funny after seeing the above posts - got beat to the punchline.
  • Reply 118 of 171
    lilgto64lilgto64 Posts: 1,147member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post


    I don't have anything intelligent to say about the phone, but that whole "after rebate" nonsense gets on my nerves. Just cut the damn price. Quit banking on those people that don't file for the rebate. Just ticks me off.



    I think that may be a myth and the truth is far more complex - a quick web search turns up lots of info. Factors such as getting you contact info for marketing purposes. And what about the fact that it is not the retailer but the manufacturer who is issuing the rebate in most cases - which means that items such as the net sales figures and average retail selling price per unit are higher - and that retailers then report higher sales (and subsequently may have to pay higher rent) and the various levels of government collect more sales tax - and it can be an effective marketing strategy to get people in the door who might also buy other items that are not on sale or do not have rebates.



    If you truly think that the only reason a company would offer rebates then I suggest you do either (or both) of two things - 1. don't ever buy anything again that has a rebate offer - 2. make sure you never fail to turn in a rebate.



    Personally over the past half dozen years or so I have received hundreds of dollars in rebates on many products from blank CDs to new snow tires.



    I can only recall two times I had any trouble with getting a rebate - once I got a notice that I missed the date or something and sent a note back and got my rebate - and there may have been one time that I simply never got it or was denied for some other reason.



    Making photo copies of everything before you send it in is a good idea in cases there is any question regarding eligibility or documentation - I also write my name on the back of cut out UPCs and such in case they get separated when the envelope is opened.



    A number of years ago OfficeMax has weekly free after rebate deals - sure you had to pay sales tax and stamps to get the rebates - but I still have half a spindle of CDs from that deal - I was buying stuff that I did not even need at the time - since it was free - the vast majority of which I have since found a use for or someone who needed an extra surge suppressor for example.
  • Reply 119 of 171
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,776member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    Here's an interesting link:



    Apple Is Most Valuable Company on Earth: Analysts



    http://www.cnbc.com/id/41473211



    Thanks for this link. I couldn't agree more with the findings, but then I am biased
  • Reply 120 of 171
    iansilviansilv Posts: 283member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    Got to think it will happen in a year or so. I forget now, did Verizon get a deal with Apple to hold it to them and AT&T or was that just a rumor?



    I am pretty sure that was just a rumor- it was announced at the Verizon event that the agreement with Verizon was a non-exclusive one.
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