Any one know how I connect my toaster to my home wifi?
Do I need Lion because I only have snow leopard
Just make sure you don't get a Windows toaster. I know this one family that got lost in a fire because their son got a virus from a porn site and the toaster went haywire because he wouldn't pay.
Of course, though, Linux is superior for toasterware as it is sooo customizable and the development is great. I've had so many great cheese bagels!
You're not serious. You carry a laptop on a golf course? You hold your laptop over your head?
Functional is not irrelevant here.
You're looking desperate here.
I'll make it easier for you... The smartphone is the computer. get used to it.
You're missing the point again. Smaller portable devices are great for the uses you mentioned, of course an iPhone is better to keep on you while golfing or sending pics while at the beach. Your naming off uses that the iPhone/iPad were DESIGNED to do, they are better at these use cases than a PC. They are "mobile" devices, and all of your examples were mobile.
The point is, the PC CAN do it, just like it can do almost anything else. It's meant to be generic, universal, extendable, and re-programmable. The iPhone/iPad is great at what it does, but is limited in it's capabilities.
The iPad can't do everything, no matter how much you want it to.
You know, the iPad does a *heck* of a lot more than my Apple IIgs (which I still own, in a box somewhere). Is someone going to say that the Apple IIgs is *not* a "personal computer" based on capabilities? What is it about the iPad that makes it "not a personal computer?" It isn't the lack of a keyboard (those are available, I have one); it isn't the lack of a USB port (my Apple IIgs doesn't have one of those). It's not the absence of a memory card reader (my Apple IIgs has a floppy drive, but no memory card reader; I'd point out that my Apple IIgs does not support wifi while my iPad does, which obviates the need for the floppy). It's not the "limited" OS -- DOS 3.3 on my Apple II gs is far (by several orders of magnitude) simpler than iOS. It certainly isn't the software; I have much more sophisticated software running on my iPad than on my Apple IIgs.
So tell me again, why doesn't someone consider the iPad a "personal computer"? Or are we redefining what the term "personal computer" means here? Is my Apple IIgs no longer a "personal computer"?
You're missing the point again. Smaller portable devices are great for the uses you mentioned, of course an iPhone is better to keep on you while golfing or sending pics while at the beach. Your naming off uses that the iPhone/iPad were DESIGNED to do, they are better at these use cases than a PC. They are "mobile" devices, and all of your examples were mobile.
The point is, the PC CAN do it, just like it can do almost anything else. It's meant to be generic, universal, extendable, and re-programmable. The iPhone/iPad is great at what it does, but is limited in it's capabilities.
The iPad can't do everything, no matter how much you want it to.
"Do everything" is a defining characteristic of a pc?
A pc can't "do everything" by any stretch of the imagination.
Feel free to call or not call any item you want a pc but you're being pretty arbitrary in your reasoning. It'd be easier (and probably more accurate)if you just said a pc is what I say it is.
You know, the iPad does a *heck* of a lot more than my Apple IIgs (which I still own, in a box somewhere). Is someone going to say that the Apple IIgs is *not* a "personal computer" based on capabilities? What is it about the iPad that makes it "not a personal computer?" It isn't the lack of a keyboard (those are available, I have one); it isn't the lack of a USB port (my Apple IIgs doesn't have one of those). It's not the absence of a memory card reader (my Apple IIgs has a floppy drive, but no memory card reader; I'd point out that my Apple IIgs does not support wifi while my iPad does, which obviates the need for the floppy). It's not the "limited" OS -- DOS 3.3 on my Apple II gs is far (by several orders of magnitude) simpler than iOS. It certainly isn't the software; I have much more sophisticated software running on my iPad than on my Apple IIgs.
So tell me again, why doesn't someone consider the iPad a "personal computer"? Or are we redefining what the term "personal computer" means here? Is my Apple IIgs no longer a "personal computer"?
What makes your entire post irrelvant is time. Also, Apple said the iPhone is a phone. All are COMPUTERS. Even the TI-84 (the goodness) is a computer. It depends on when it's released and how it's released. Your post means that a current mac isn't a computer because a future one is gonig to come out.
Computers are more or less universal and their subsidiaries have more spefific, albeit limited functions: THAT'S the difference. A gameboy is still a console, but it is handheld. A game console is a PC, but it's defined as a consoel to show you the difference.
I'm quite tired of people defending the iPad as a PC when it's not. Steve Jobs didn't define it as one, so it's not. It is a form, but has a more spefific purpose. Otherwise, why buy it? Remember when people were complaining it was just a big iPhone, but it differentiated itself?
The problem is that technology can sort of change definitions and things become more vague. What about the Samsung Galaxy Note? It is way too small to be a tablet but too big to be a phone.
If iPad was meant to be a PC, then they would have called it a PC or a Mac tab. But it's not.
That's why you have definitons like Desktop computers and Laptops. They're different forms and aren't in the same category. They may run windows, but still have diffenrent functions. Thats' why we have defintions of stuff.
If iPad was meant to be a PC, then they would have called it a PC or a Mac tab. But it's not.
So by your logic if Apple doesn't call it a personal computer (or define it as a Mac) it's not a personal computer, a term they coined and then didn't use for their Mac? In fact, Apple have, for the most part, shied away from calling their machines "PCs" since the IBM Personal Computer (a brand name)/IBM PC compatible became popular.
It must be nice to live in a world where you can just put up make up stuff without any concern for reason or logic.
You're missing the point again. Smaller portable devices are great for the uses you mentioned, of course an iPhone is better to keep on you while golfing or sending pics while at the beach. Your naming off uses that the iPhone/iPad were DESIGNED to do, they are better at these use cases than a PC. They are "mobile" devices, and all of your examples were mobile.
The point is, the PC CAN do it, just like it can do almost anything else. It's meant to be generic, universal, extendable, and re-programmable. The iPhone/iPad is great at what it does, but is limited in it's capabilities.
The iPad can't do everything, no matter how much you want it to.
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
So by your logic if Apple doesn't call it a personal computer (or define it as a Mac) it's not a personal computer, a term they coined and then didn't use for their Mac? In fact, Apple have, for the most part, shied away from calling their machines "PCs" since the IBM Personal Computer (a brand name)/IBM PC compatible became popular.
It must be nice to live in a world where you can just put up make up stuff without any concern for reason or logic.
What's your point, he didn't define it as one. If he did, that's what we would be calling it. So again, I'm not getting YOUR logic.
You didn't even factor in the entire context of my post.
Technically, we can't even refer to the iPad as a tablet as it's just called a tablet. Definitions change, and many times it's to the benefit to the company. Usually it's iPad and Tablets wehn you go to the stores. Like how Xerox became a household name, "Oh, I have to xerox this paper!" or even the iPod. iPod does play MP3s, but not many refer to it as an MP3 player.
Quit trying to justify the sales of Apple as a PC vendor, when it's not. Might as well add the Xbox 360 sales to that and any company they have a stake it.
I find out funny how people keep backing up the crime tape just make it seem like Apple's doing better than what they are.
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
By that logic, Android Tablets and iPads are largely the same.
Interesting, since I can name a bunch of programs that don't run on Windows. Additionally most websites including the one you list above are viewable despite the ridiculous propaganda of the opposition.
Interesting, since I can name a bunch of programs that don't run on Windows. Additionally most websites including the one you list above are viewable despite the ridiculous propaganda of the opposition.
Well my Android phone won't let me watch a lot of site with boobs. Redirects me to their mobile site. Dissapointing actually (YES, I DO have it identifiying itself as a PC).
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
Let's see, here's a few:
- Burn a DVD
- Rip a music CD
- Play a Blue Ray
- Print to a USB printer
- Back up and Sync an iPhone
- Access an external hard drive
- Access a pen drive
- Update a GPS with the latest maps
- Download Bittorrent movies
- Copy a DVD movie
- Create a website
- Maintain or update a website
- Any type of software development
- Download any type of file from a website
- Upload any type of file to a website
- Run virtual machines
- Flash an Arduino
Before anyone starts throwing out useless arguments about how many people don't need to do some or all of these things, that doesn't matter. The point is that any computer sold today traditionally categorized in the "PC" market can do all of these things and a lot more. All specialty devices including the iPhone, iPad, iPod, Kindle, Android, etc.. can't do most of these.
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
Before anyone starts throwing out useless arguments about how many people don't need to do some or all of these things, that doesn't matter. The point is that any computer sold today traditionally categorized in the "PC" market can do all of these things and a lot more. All specialty devices including the iPhone, iPad, iPod, Kindle, Android, etc.. can't do most of these.
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Any one know how I connect my toaster to my home wifi?
Do I need Lion because I only have snow leopard
Just make sure you don't get a Windows toaster. I know this one family that got lost in a fire because their son got a virus from a porn site and the toaster went haywire because he wouldn't pay.
Of course, though, Linux is superior for toasterware as it is sooo customizable and the development is great. I've had so many great cheese bagels!
You're not serious. You carry a laptop on a golf course? You hold your laptop over your head?
Functional is not irrelevant here.
You're looking desperate here.
I'll make it easier for you... The smartphone is the computer. get used to it.
You're missing the point again. Smaller portable devices are great for the uses you mentioned, of course an iPhone is better to keep on you while golfing or sending pics while at the beach. Your naming off uses that the iPhone/iPad were DESIGNED to do, they are better at these use cases than a PC. They are "mobile" devices, and all of your examples were mobile.
The point is, the PC CAN do it, just like it can do almost anything else. It's meant to be generic, universal, extendable, and re-programmable. The iPhone/iPad is great at what it does, but is limited in it's capabilities.
The iPad can't do everything, no matter how much you want it to.
So tell me again, why doesn't someone consider the iPad a "personal computer"? Or are we redefining what the term "personal computer" means here? Is my Apple IIgs no longer a "personal computer"?
You're missing the point again. Smaller portable devices are great for the uses you mentioned, of course an iPhone is better to keep on you while golfing or sending pics while at the beach. Your naming off uses that the iPhone/iPad were DESIGNED to do, they are better at these use cases than a PC. They are "mobile" devices, and all of your examples were mobile.
The point is, the PC CAN do it, just like it can do almost anything else. It's meant to be generic, universal, extendable, and re-programmable. The iPhone/iPad is great at what it does, but is limited in it's capabilities.
The iPad can't do everything, no matter how much you want it to.
"Do everything" is a defining characteristic of a pc?
A pc can't "do everything" by any stretch of the imagination.
Feel free to call or not call any item you want a pc but you're being pretty arbitrary in your reasoning. It'd be easier (and probably more accurate)if you just said a pc is what I say it is.
You know, the iPad does a *heck* of a lot more than my Apple IIgs (which I still own, in a box somewhere). Is someone going to say that the Apple IIgs is *not* a "personal computer" based on capabilities? What is it about the iPad that makes it "not a personal computer?" It isn't the lack of a keyboard (those are available, I have one); it isn't the lack of a USB port (my Apple IIgs doesn't have one of those). It's not the absence of a memory card reader (my Apple IIgs has a floppy drive, but no memory card reader; I'd point out that my Apple IIgs does not support wifi while my iPad does, which obviates the need for the floppy). It's not the "limited" OS -- DOS 3.3 on my Apple II gs is far (by several orders of magnitude) simpler than iOS. It certainly isn't the software; I have much more sophisticated software running on my iPad than on my Apple IIgs.
So tell me again, why doesn't someone consider the iPad a "personal computer"? Or are we redefining what the term "personal computer" means here? Is my Apple IIgs no longer a "personal computer"?
What makes your entire post irrelvant is time. Also, Apple said the iPhone is a phone. All are COMPUTERS. Even the TI-84 (the goodness) is a computer. It depends on when it's released and how it's released. Your post means that a current mac isn't a computer because a future one is gonig to come out.
Computers are more or less universal and their subsidiaries have more spefific, albeit limited functions: THAT'S the difference. A gameboy is still a console, but it is handheld. A game console is a PC, but it's defined as a consoel to show you the difference.
I'm quite tired of people defending the iPad as a PC when it's not. Steve Jobs didn't define it as one, so it's not. It is a form, but has a more spefific purpose. Otherwise, why buy it? Remember when people were complaining it was just a big iPhone, but it differentiated itself?
The problem is that technology can sort of change definitions and things become more vague. What about the Samsung Galaxy Note? It is way too small to be a tablet but too big to be a phone.
If iPad was meant to be a PC, then they would have called it a PC or a Mac tab. But it's not.
That's why you have definitons like Desktop computers and Laptops. They're different forms and aren't in the same category. They may run windows, but still have diffenrent functions. Thats' why we have defintions of stuff.
If iPad was meant to be a PC, then they would have called it a PC or a Mac tab. But it's not.
So by your logic if Apple doesn't call it a personal computer (or define it as a Mac) it's not a personal computer, a term they coined and then didn't use for their Mac? In fact, Apple have, for the most part, shied away from calling their machines "PCs" since the IBM Personal Computer (a brand name)/IBM PC compatible became popular.
It must be nice to live in a world where you can just put up make up stuff without any concern for reason or logic.
You're missing the point again. Smaller portable devices are great for the uses you mentioned, of course an iPhone is better to keep on you while golfing or sending pics while at the beach. Your naming off uses that the iPhone/iPad were DESIGNED to do, they are better at these use cases than a PC. They are "mobile" devices, and all of your examples were mobile.
The point is, the PC CAN do it, just like it can do almost anything else. It's meant to be generic, universal, extendable, and re-programmable. The iPhone/iPad is great at what it does, but is limited in it's capabilities.
The iPad can't do everything, no matter how much you want it to.
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
So by your logic if Apple doesn't call it a personal computer (or define it as a Mac) it's not a personal computer, a term they coined and then didn't use for their Mac? In fact, Apple have, for the most part, shied away from calling their machines "PCs" since the IBM Personal Computer (a brand name)/IBM PC compatible became popular.
It must be nice to live in a world where you can just put up make up stuff without any concern for reason or logic.
What's your point, he didn't define it as one. If he did, that's what we would be calling it. So again, I'm not getting YOUR logic.
You didn't even factor in the entire context of my post.
Technically, we can't even refer to the iPad as a tablet as it's just called a tablet. Definitions change, and many times it's to the benefit to the company. Usually it's iPad and Tablets wehn you go to the stores. Like how Xerox became a household name, "Oh, I have to xerox this paper!" or even the iPod. iPod does play MP3s, but not many refer to it as an MP3 player.
Quit trying to justify the sales of Apple as a PC vendor, when it's not. Might as well add the Xbox 360 sales to that and any company they have a stake it.
I find out funny how people keep backing up the crime tape just make it seem like Apple's doing better than what they are.
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
Pornh&**.com for starters.
Windows Antivirus 2008
Halo
Crysis
Blue Screen of Death
.........need I can continue?
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
By that logic, Android Tablets and iPads are largely the same.
Pornh&**.com for starters.
Windows Antivirus 2008
Halo
Crysis
Blue Screen of Death
.........need I can continue?
Interesting, since I can name a bunch of programs that don't run on Windows. Additionally most websites including the one you list above are viewable despite the ridiculous propaganda of the opposition.
Interesting, since I can name a bunch of programs that don't run on Windows. Additionally most websites including the one you list above are viewable despite the ridiculous propaganda of the opposition.
Well my Android phone won't let me watch a lot of site with boobs. Redirects me to their mobile site. Dissapointing actually (YES, I DO have it identifiying itself as a PC).
Classifying any (current)tablet as a computer with it's stripped down OS and reduced functionality is a travesty to the term Personal Computer.
Tell that to Steve Ballmer, who argued that tablets are also PCs.
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
Let's see, here's a few:
- Burn a DVD
- Rip a music CD
- Play a Blue Ray
- Print to a USB printer
- Back up and Sync an iPhone
- Access an external hard drive
- Access a pen drive
- Update a GPS with the latest maps
- Download Bittorrent movies
- Copy a DVD movie
- Create a website
- Maintain or update a website
- Any type of software development
- Download any type of file from a website
- Upload any type of file to a website
- Run virtual machines
- Flash an Arduino
Before anyone starts throwing out useless arguments about how many people don't need to do some or all of these things, that doesn't matter. The point is that any computer sold today traditionally categorized in the "PC" market can do all of these things and a lot more. All specialty devices including the iPhone, iPad, iPod, Kindle, Android, etc.. can't do most of these.
Yet you still haven't mentioned one single task of which a PC is capable and an iPad is incapable of performing of the "thousands" you indicated you could list. How about we start with the first hundred?
Good to go on iPad... Not so much on any PC.
One-handed typing while installed on the throne!
Good to go on iPad... Not so much on any PC.
One-handed typing while installed on the throne!
Um.....I carry my entire desktop to the toilet.
Let's see, here's a few:
- Burn a DVD
- Rip a music CD
- Play a Blue Ray
- Print to a USB printer
- Back up and Sync an iPhone
- Access an external hard drive
- Access a pen drive
- Update a GPS with the latest maps
- Download Bittorrent movies
- Copy a DVD movie
- Create a website
- Maintain or update a website
- Any type of software development
- Download any type of file from a website
- Upload any type of file to a website
- Run virtual machines
- Flash an Arduino
Before anyone starts throwing out useless arguments about how many people don't need to do some or all of these things, that doesn't matter. The point is that any computer sold today traditionally categorized in the "PC" market can do all of these things and a lot more. All specialty devices including the iPhone, iPad, iPod, Kindle, Android, etc.. can't do most of these.
What's a DVD?
Don't forget iPad does NOT have Micrsofot Word, PowerPoint...essentials to any college student. Please dont' count pages...not the same.
More's the pity!
More's the pity!
OMG, I think his "it's not a PC if it doesn't have MS Office" excuse deserves the troll of the year award.