And we have the trolls show up who just don't get it. Techtards be damned - the overwhelming majority of consumers do not want to, know how to, or are to complacent to try to root their devices. They should just work, and be updated seamlessly, but are getting screwed by these companies selling them crap. Obsolete the day they walk out of the store.
I could also claim that the majority don't care if they ever get an update to Android 4.0/ICS
I could also claim that the majority don't care if they ever get an update to Android 4.0/ICS
OH! Was that you earlier who said that there's nothing you can do with 4.0 that you can't with 2.2, thereby "justifying" the fact that it's okay that three month old phones will never receive another software update?
Yeah, I can see why that might bring back memories.
No, you're just propagating blatant lies.
Back up your claims.
- How can jailbreaking improve my battery life?
- How do I downgrade w/o SHSH blobs? My phone came with 4.3.5.
Your solution to everything is jailbreaking which circumvents the whole Apple gospel. Besides that, for MANY MANY people, it is a poor or otherwise impossible solution.
OH! Was that you earlier who said that there's nothing you can do with 4.0 that you can't with 2.2, thereby "justifying" the fact that it's okay that three month old phones will never receive another software update?
SOMEone said that; I can't remember who.
I don't recall ever saying that, nor do I care to search for who might have. Again, you make a blatantly incorrect statement. The phones can easily run Android 4.0/ICS if the user is willing. A bit different than 'never'.
Look, I've owned multiple Android phones that did better than my 4S is currently. You're just making general, incorrect statements.
Under the same conditions? If you constantly try and manage Wi-Fi, bluetooth, screen etc. on an Android device I'm sure you can get close, but if you leave iOS/Android devices with Wi-Fi on permanently, bluetooth off, screen at half-brightness and make general usage over a day the iOS device WILL last longer, fact!
Under the same conditions? If you constantly try and manage Wi-Fi, bluetooth, screen etc. on an Android device I'm sure you can get close, but if you leave iOS/Android devices with Wi-Fi on permanently, bluetooth off, screen at half-brightness and make general usage over a day the iOS device WILL last longer, fact!
There a million ways to compare battery life on devices. I will just plainly state that my 4S battery life is PATHETIC (for an Apple device). Also I'm not constantly playing on the phone in a way which would cause drain. I have iCloud and most notifications off. Hopefully there is a fix soon.
There a million ways to compare battery life on devices. I will just plainly state that my 4S battery life is PATHETIC (for an Apple device). Also I'm not constantly playing on the phone in a way which would cause drain. I have iCloud and most notifications off. Hopefully there is a fix soon.
Best thing I've found for battery life is turning of the pointless "Setting Timezone" setting in "Location Services > System Services". Never need to change it anyway.
Under the same conditions? If you constantly try and manage Wi-Fi, bluetooth, screen etc. on an Android device I'm sure you can get close, but if you leave iOS/Android devices with Wi-Fi on permanently, bluetooth off, screen at half-brightness and make general usage over a day the iOS device WILL last longer, fact!
To be perfectly fair it depends on what you use your smartphone for. If it's primarily as a phone with only rare web browsing there are several Android smartphones that might last a bit (or a lot) longer between charges than an iPhone.
Apple has done an admirable job with power management for generally very good battery performance. A blanket statement that iPhones will always have better battery life than an Android phone isn't accurate.
To be perfectly fair it depends on what you use your smartphone for. If it's primarily as a phone with only rare web browsing there are several Android smartphones that might last a bit (or a lot) longer between charges than an iPhone.
Apple has done an admirable job with power management for generally very good battery performance. A blanket statement that iPhones will always have better battery life than an Android phone isn't accurate.
There a million ways to compare battery life on devices. I will just plainly state that my 4S battery life is PATHETIC (for an Apple device). Also I'm not constantly playing on the phone in a way which would cause drain. I have iCloud and most notifications off. Hopefully there is a fix soon.
From everything I've seen and read that isn't true. There seem to be plenty of iPhone 4Ses that are doing just fine with their battery life and are well within the stated specs of the device.
From what I've seen there is a large percentage of 4Ses with the battery issue. An issue that is firmware based which may be affecting certain 4S builds or perhaps certain usage cases (i..e:, used with a certain dB range or certain frequency band).
My reasoning: If you look at the iOS 5.0 updates for the 4S the firmware is rapidly changing, has shown some negative affects for some users updating, is a new chip from Qualcomm, and is the first world-mode chip I've seen in a smartphone with anywhere near this many radios. It doesn't excuse Apple but it does explain it.
To be perfectly fair it depends on what you use your smartphone for. If it's primarily as a phone with only rare web browsing there are several Android smartphones that might last a bit (or a lot) longer between charges than an iPhone.
Apple has done an admirable job with power management for generally very good battery performance. A blanket statement that iPhones will always have better battery life than an Android phone isn't accurate.
1) The only AnandTech benchmark you choose was for wireless hotspots, bypassing the more useful metrics that are commonly used on smartphones. That was deliberate yet it hurts your argument because the iPhone running at 800MHz/512MB besting other smartphones running at 1Ghz or more shows that vendors are doing pretty well with Android as it is seeing as how most batteries aren't 25% larger than in the iPhone.
2) iOS, WP7, Bada, and other mobile OSes designed around very specific HW will always have an intrinsic advantage over OSes that are designed with very general HW requirements. You can check AnandTech for the battery life differences between Windows and Mac OS for a comparison.
1) The only AnandTech benchmark you choose was for wireless hotspots, bypassing the more useful metrics that are commonly used on smartphones.
I didn't choose any particular usage metric. They're all there to browse thru. Talk time specifically tends to favor some android phones over the iPhone line. Wifi hotspot benchmarks just happened to be the last one in the list and the last one I looked at, thus part of the link.
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Versus having a phone which can never have battery life even close to that of an iOS device. Big deal!
Look, I've owned multiple Android phones that did better than my 4S is currently. You're just making general, incorrect statements.
The difference is that Android users do have a solution, if they just look for it.
*coughjailbreakingcough*
Apple users must kneel to Apple's will.
*coughjailbreakingcough*
For instance, if you upgrade your iPhone 4 to iOS 5.0.1 and find that it now eats battery, you're screwed. End of story.
Well, what have we here.
What is jailbreaking going to get me? A phone I can barely use… … that still has bad battery life. Awful. It makes me miss Android a bit.
Yeah, I can see why that might bring back memories.
You can lambaste and call me a troll all you want, but I am just an Apple user that plays devil's advocate.
No, you're just propagating blatant lies.
And we have the trolls show up who just don't get it. Techtards be damned - the overwhelming majority of consumers do not want to, know how to, or are to complacent to try to root their devices. They should just work, and be updated seamlessly, but are getting screwed by these companies selling them crap. Obsolete the day they walk out of the store.
I could also claim that the majority don't care if they ever get an update to Android 4.0/ICS
I could also claim that the majority don't care if they ever get an update to Android 4.0/ICS
OH! Was that you earlier who said that there's nothing you can do with 4.0 that you can't with 2.2, thereby "justifying" the fact that it's okay that three month old phones will never receive another software update?
SOMEone said that; I can't remember who.
*coughjailbreakingcough*
*coughjailbreakingcough*
Well, what have we here.
Yeah, I can see why that might bring back memories.
No, you're just propagating blatant lies.
Back up your claims.
- How can jailbreaking improve my battery life?
- How do I downgrade w/o SHSH blobs? My phone came with 4.3.5.
Your solution to everything is jailbreaking which circumvents the whole Apple gospel. Besides that, for MANY MANY people, it is a poor or otherwise impossible solution.
Your solution to everything is jailbreaking which circumvents the whole Apple gospel.
? And your solution is rooting?
OH! Was that you earlier who said that there's nothing you can do with 4.0 that you can't with 2.2, thereby "justifying" the fact that it's okay that three month old phones will never receive another software update?
SOMEone said that; I can't remember who.
I don't recall ever saying that, nor do I care to search for who might have. Again, you make a blatantly incorrect statement. The phones can easily run Android 4.0/ICS if the user is willing. A bit different than 'never'.
Look, I've owned multiple Android phones that did better than my 4S is currently. You're just making general, incorrect statements.
Under the same conditions? If you constantly try and manage Wi-Fi, bluetooth, screen etc. on an Android device I'm sure you can get close, but if you leave iOS/Android devices with Wi-Fi on permanently, bluetooth off, screen at half-brightness and make general usage over a day the iOS device WILL last longer, fact!
? And your solution is rooting?
Yeah, it is. Rooting is not violating ToS. Jailbreaking is. Rooting actually works on the Android phone, Jailbreaking is (currently) a half solution.
Again, you make a blatantly incorrect statement. The phones can easily run Android 4.0/ICS if the user is willing.
You don't have a clue about which phones I'm talking. Nice try.
Under the same conditions? If you constantly try and manage Wi-Fi, bluetooth, screen etc. on an Android device I'm sure you can get close, but if you leave iOS/Android devices with Wi-Fi on permanently, bluetooth off, screen at half-brightness and make general usage over a day the iOS device WILL last longer, fact!
There a million ways to compare battery life on devices. I will just plainly state that my 4S battery life is PATHETIC (for an Apple device). Also I'm not constantly playing on the phone in a way which would cause drain. I have iCloud and most notifications off. Hopefully there is a fix soon.
You don't have a clue about which phones I'm talking. Nice try.
I'm talking about the Galaxy S since that's what the thread is about.
There a million ways to compare battery life on devices. I will just plainly state that my 4S battery life is PATHETIC (for an Apple device). Also I'm not constantly playing on the phone in a way which would cause drain. I have iCloud and most notifications off. Hopefully there is a fix soon.
Best thing I've found for battery life is turning of the pointless "Setting Timezone" setting in "Location Services > System Services". Never need to change it anyway.
I will just plainly state that my 4S battery life is PATHETIC (for an Apple device).
And yet it still beats the competition on battery life for the performance, meh!
Yeah, it is. Rooting is not violating ToS. Jailbreaking is. Rooting actually works on the Android phone, Jailbreaking is (currently) a half solution.
Either way, rooting/jailbreaking WILL invalidate warranties. End of story, don't try and claim it's any different.
Under the same conditions? If you constantly try and manage Wi-Fi, bluetooth, screen etc. on an Android device I'm sure you can get close, but if you leave iOS/Android devices with Wi-Fi on permanently, bluetooth off, screen at half-brightness and make general usage over a day the iOS device WILL last longer, fact!
To be perfectly fair it depends on what you use your smartphone for. If it's primarily as a phone with only rare web browsing there are several Android smartphones that might last a bit (or a lot) longer between charges than an iPhone.
Apple has done an admirable job with power management for generally very good battery performance. A blanket statement that iPhones will always have better battery life than an Android phone isn't accurate.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Smartphone11/351
To be perfectly fair it depends on what you use your smartphone for. If it's primarily as a phone with only rare web browsing there are several Android smartphones that might last a bit (or a lot) longer between charges than an iPhone.
Apple has done an admirable job with power management for generally very good battery performance. A blanket statement that iPhones will always have better battery life than an Android phone isn't accurate.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Smartphone11/351
Fair comment I suppose, but if you use it as a smartphone, the iPhone will win.
There a million ways to compare battery life on devices. I will just plainly state that my 4S battery life is PATHETIC (for an Apple device). Also I'm not constantly playing on the phone in a way which would cause drain. I have iCloud and most notifications off. Hopefully there is a fix soon.
From everything I've seen and read that isn't true. There seem to be plenty of iPhone 4Ses that are doing just fine with their battery life and are well within the stated specs of the device.
From what I've seen there is a large percentage of 4Ses with the battery issue. An issue that is firmware based which may be affecting certain 4S builds or perhaps certain usage cases (i..e:, used with a certain dB range or certain frequency band).
My reasoning: If you look at the iOS 5.0 updates for the 4S the firmware is rapidly changing, has shown some negative affects for some users updating, is a new chip from Qualcomm, and is the first world-mode chip I've seen in a smartphone with anywhere near this many radios. It doesn't excuse Apple but it does explain it.
To be perfectly fair it depends on what you use your smartphone for. If it's primarily as a phone with only rare web browsing there are several Android smartphones that might last a bit (or a lot) longer between charges than an iPhone.
Apple has done an admirable job with power management for generally very good battery performance. A blanket statement that iPhones will always have better battery life than an Android phone isn't accurate.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Smartphone11/351
1) The only AnandTech benchmark you choose was for wireless hotspots, bypassing the more useful metrics that are commonly used on smartphones. That was deliberate yet it hurts your argument because the iPhone running at 800MHz/512MB besting other smartphones running at 1Ghz or more shows that vendors are doing pretty well with Android as it is seeing as how most batteries aren't 25% larger than in the iPhone.
2) iOS, WP7, Bada, and other mobile OSes designed around very specific HW will always have an intrinsic advantage over OSes that are designed with very general HW requirements. You can check AnandTech for the battery life differences between Windows and Mac OS for a comparison.
1) The only AnandTech benchmark you choose was for wireless hotspots, bypassing the more useful metrics that are commonly used on smartphones.
I didn't choose any particular usage metric. They're all there to browse thru. Talk time specifically tends to favor some android phones over the iPhone line. Wifi hotspot benchmarks just happened to be the last one in the list and the last one I looked at, thus part of the link.