Apple should simply release a 4.5" to 5" iPhone in addition to the 3.5". They'd dominate the market with that duo. And if they made iOS just a touch more open, they'd more than likely kill Android.
Since they don't have any information on how they came up with their 'hottest selling phones', let's go with someone who actually measures the number sold and let's look at more than one month to add validity.
#5 was the HTC-EVO 4G - which does have a 4.3" screen.
So 4 of the top 5 selling phones last year had screens smaller than 4". The iPhones alone accounted for 35% of the total market.
I think you're going to need some real data to support your claim other than "hottest selling phones" from some unknown source and methodology.
I thought we were discussing what is selling now rather than as far back as 14 months ago? BTW, the top-selling devices in my link were by Canaccord Genuity. AI has their report on it here:
You didn't indicate any distrust of them when you commented in that thread.
I thought you might appreciate the version with pictures to make it clearer. I'm sorry you still didn't understand it. but perhaps if you look at it again.
The very first page plainly states where the data came from:
"Our image gallery breaks down the three top-selling smartphones at each of America's four largest carriers last month, as determined from checks by Canaccord Genuity, the analyst firm."
<p style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:'lucida grande', verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(226,225,225);">I thought we were discussing what is selling now rather than as far back as 14 months ago? BTW, the top-selling devices in my link were by Canaccord Genuity. AI has their report on it here:</p>
<p style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:'lucida grande', verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(226,225,225);">You didn't indicate any distrust of them when you commented in that thread.</p>
<p style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:'lucida grande', verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(226,225,225);">I thought you might appreciate the version with pictures to make it clearer. I'm sorry you still didn't understand it. but perhaps if you look at it again.</p>
<p style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:'lucida grande', verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(226,225,225);">The very first page plainly states where the data came from:</p>
<p style="color:rgb(24,24,24);font-family:'lucida grande', verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(226,225,225);"><span style="color:rgb(70,70,70);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">"Our image gallery breaks down the three top-selling smartphones at each of America's four largest carriers last month, as determined from checks by Canaccord Genuity, the analyst firm."</span>
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Still waiting for you to provide numbers. What percentage of phones are > 4.5"? Last time I saw figures, the percentage was relatively small. If you disagree, how about some evidence? Your numbers are useless for several reasons:
1. They are US only.
2. They don't show any volumes. If the iPhone were 99% of sales and everything else split the remaining 1%, then it would be clear that the smaller screen retained the lead. You haven't provided a single thing that shows how many phones were sold of each screen size.
You're the one claiming 4" and up displays aren't selling. Do have any links to support that? I've also offered links indicating existing smartphone owners would overwhelmingly prefer a larger display to what they currently have. Do you have any links that would even go so far as to claim most iPhone owners don't want their display to be any larger than it is?
You say a lot of stuff but aren't offering much of anything to support your position. In the "who to trust" category I personally prefer those with at least minimal evidence that backs what they say.
You're the one claiming 4" and up displays aren't selling. Do have any links to support that? I've also offered links indicating existing smartphone owners would overwhelmingly prefer a larger display to what they currently have. Do you have any links that would even go so far as to claim most iPhone owners don't want their display to be any larger than it is?
You say a lot of stuff but aren't offering much of anything to support your position. In the "who to trust" category I personally prefer those with at least minimal evidence that backs what they say.
As usual, you're making things up and pretending I said them. Do you do anything besides straw man arguments?
I never said that some iPhone users wouldn't like a larger phone. What I said repeatedly is that since the top selling phones of all time have 3.5" screens that it's apparently not an important enough factor to drive the purchase decision.
Then again, why did you bother to question the Strategy Analytics article's premise that most users would prefer a larger screen on their next smartphone by using last years smartphone sales as proof they were wrong? Geeesh!
It's a meaningless comparison because it tells nothing about normal perception. It's like saying that a fashion model is ugly because you can see the pores of their skin through a microscope.
Actually, it's not like that at all. The differences between a pentile screen and iPhone retina display are easily distinguishable by the human eye.
Actually, it's not like that at all. The differences between a pentile screen and iPhone retina display are easily distinguishable by the human eye.
The newer Pentile display isn't the same as those from two years back. When discussing Samsung's SuperAmoled 720HD display (not even the Plus version), used on both the Galaxy Nexus and the new Galaxy III, Anandtech had this to say:
For me at least, the Galaxy Nexus display exceeds my visual acuity - I cannot pick out subpixels at all on the Galaxy Nexus. Quite literally, the RGBG subpixel stripe is now small enough that it is beyond visual acuity at standard viewing distance (1 foot).
The newer Pentile display isn't the same as those from two years back. When discussing Samsung's SuperAmoled 720HD display (not even the Plus version), used on both the Galaxy Nexus and the new Galaxy III, Anandtech had this to say:
For me at least, the Galaxy Nexus display exceeds my visual acuity - I cannot pick out subpixels at all on the Galaxy Nexus. Quite literally, the RGBG subpixel stripe is now small enough that it is beyond visual acuity at standard viewing distance (1 foot).
I have both and in comparison to the iPhone 4S the GNex is terrible.
I didn't bother responding to that because it made absolutely no sense as a reply to what I said. Not gonna waste my time with a game of cat and mouse.
Actually, it's not like that at all. The differences between a pentile screen and iPhone retina display are easily distinguishable by the human eye.
Not when then the resolution is 1280 x 720 at 316 dpi, sorry it just isn't so. Especially when it's also a SAMOLED+. My Galaxy Note only has 295 dpi at 1280 x 800 and that screen is nothing but amazing.
Notice how much your hand position had to shift to use different parts of the phone. I can use my iPhone without having to shift it at all.
Besides, what you fail to realize is that it's not a 'one size fits all' situation. Everyone has their own needs and wants and will choose the phone that works better for them. And the facts are that the percentage of phones purchased with a 4.5" and up screen is relatively small.
Nope, I actually had to turn my whole upper body on my left to click the mouse button and take the two following screenshots, that's only why my hand shifted, i can move my thumb at the four conners of the screen without moving my hand at all. Of course that one size doesn't fit all, that's precisely why a 3.5 screen size mentioned as a "golden rule" is fallacious to say the least. Phones with bigger screen are relatively recent and onerous, yet are released out fast and will increasingly be buyed, that's a given.
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Apple should simply release a 4.5" to 5" iPhone in addition to the 3.5". They'd dominate the market with that duo. And if they made iOS just a touch more open, they'd more than likely kill Android.
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Originally Posted by Mikeb85
And if they made iOS just a touch more open…
Meaning what?
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Since they don't have any information on how they came up with their 'hottest selling phones', let's go with someone who actually measures the number sold and let's look at more than one month to add validity.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/top-selling-smartphones-us_n_1299089.html
#1, 2, 3 were all from Apple - 3.5" screen
#4 was Blackberry curve - 3.7" screen
#5 was the HTC-EVO 4G - which does have a 4.3" screen.
So 4 of the top 5 selling phones last year had screens smaller than 4". The iPhones alone accounted for 35% of the total market.
I think you're going to need some real data to support your claim other than "hottest selling phones" from some unknown source and methodology.
I thought we were discussing what is selling now rather than as far back as 14 months ago? BTW, the top-selling devices in my link were by Canaccord Genuity. AI has their report on it here:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/04/02/samsung_rivaling_htc_motorola_to_take_second_place_among_us_carriers_after_iphone_4s.html
You didn't indicate any distrust of them when you commented in that thread.
I thought you might appreciate the version with pictures to make it clearer. I'm sorry you still didn't understand it. but perhaps if you look at it again.
The very first page plainly states where the data came from:
"Our image gallery breaks down the three top-selling smartphones at each of America's four largest carriers last month, as determined from checks by Canaccord Genuity, the analyst firm."
Still waiting for you to provide numbers. What percentage of phones are > 4.5"? Last time I saw figures, the percentage was relatively small. If you disagree, how about some evidence? Your numbers are useless for several reasons:
1. They are US only.
2. They don't show any volumes. If the iPhone were 99% of sales and everything else split the remaining 1%, then it would be clear that the smaller screen retained the lead. You haven't provided a single thing that shows how many phones were sold of each screen size.
You're the one claiming 4" and up displays aren't selling. Do have any links to support that? I've also offered links indicating existing smartphone owners would overwhelmingly prefer a larger display to what they currently have. Do you have any links that would even go so far as to claim most iPhone owners don't want their display to be any larger than it is?
You say a lot of stuff but aren't offering much of anything to support your position. In the "who to trust" category I personally prefer those with at least minimal evidence that backs what they say.
As usual, you're making things up and pretending I said them. Do you do anything besides straw man arguments?
I never said that some iPhone users wouldn't like a larger phone. What I said repeatedly is that since the top selling phones of all time have 3.5" screens that it's apparently not an important enough factor to drive the purchase decision.
Then again, why did you bother to question the Strategy Analytics article's premise that most users would prefer a larger screen on their next smartphone by using last years smartphone sales as proof they were wrong? Geeesh!
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/149844/samsung-unveils-quad-core-galaxy-s-iii-with-4-8-amoled-screen/200#post_2105681
Read your own posts once in awhile instead of trying to find imaginary faults with nearly anything anyone else posts.
Actually, it's not like that at all. The differences between a pentile screen and iPhone retina display are easily distinguishable by the human eye.
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Originally Posted by sennen
Actually, it's not like that at all. The differences between a pentile screen and iPhone retina display are easily distinguishable by the human eye.
The newer Pentile display isn't the same as those from two years back. When discussing Samsung's SuperAmoled 720HD display (not even the Plus version), used on both the Galaxy Nexus and the new Galaxy III, Anandtech had this to say:
For me at least, the Galaxy Nexus display exceeds my visual acuity - I cannot pick out subpixels at all on the Galaxy Nexus. Quite literally, the RGBG subpixel stripe is now small enough that it is beyond visual acuity at standard viewing distance (1 foot).
Source? Where did Apple say "3.5" is the maximum size for a screen to be useable with one hand."?
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The newer Pentile display isn't the same as those from two years back. When discussing Samsung's SuperAmoled 720HD display (not even the Plus version), used on both the Galaxy Nexus and the new Galaxy III, Anandtech had this to say:
For me at least, the Galaxy Nexus display exceeds my visual acuity - I cannot pick out subpixels at all on the Galaxy Nexus. Quite literally, the RGBG subpixel stripe is now small enough that it is beyond visual acuity at standard viewing distance (1 foot).
I have both and in comparison to the iPhone 4S the GNex is terrible.
Terrible in what way? With access to both you have a qualified opinion unlike some here.
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I am heard some news that Sumsung is making mobile like iphone. what do you think about this.
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5% is a mile?
Source please.
Black pots and kettles.
Which Android RSS feed features AI articles?
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Which Android RSS feed features AI articles?
I didn't bother responding to that because it made absolutely no sense as a reply to what I said. Not gonna waste my time with a game of cat and mouse.
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Originally Posted by sennen
Actually, it's not like that at all. The differences between a pentile screen and iPhone retina display are easily distinguishable by the human eye.
Not when then the resolution is 1280 x 720 at 316 dpi, sorry it just isn't so. Especially when it's also a SAMOLED+. My Galaxy Note only has 295 dpi at 1280 x 800 and that screen is nothing but amazing.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Notice how much your hand position had to shift to use different parts of the phone. I can use my iPhone without having to shift it at all.
Besides, what you fail to realize is that it's not a 'one size fits all' situation. Everyone has their own needs and wants and will choose the phone that works better for them. And the facts are that the percentage of phones purchased with a 4.5" and up screen is relatively small.
Nope, I actually had to turn my whole upper body on my left to click the mouse button and take the two following screenshots, that's only why my hand shifted, i can move my thumb at the four conners of the screen without moving my hand at all. Of course that one size doesn't fit all, that's precisely why a 3.5 screen size mentioned as a "golden rule" is fallacious to say the least. Phones with bigger screen are relatively recent and onerous, yet are released out fast and will increasingly be buyed, that's a given.