I can't help but laugh at the people on other forums upset that the Nexus 7 doesn't have an HDMi or MicroSD ports. Surely those additions are so simple and cost free to make that only Apple would ever consider such a thing¡ LOL
I don't get it. The competitions' fans are molesting this site and no one is doing anything.
Apple Insider is just days from losing a customer but replacing me with 100 people who will clearly never buy anything from Apple Insider.
Molesting... An interesting choice of words!
I've noticed that the most off-the-wall posts come from people with a join date of a month or so ago, and a very few posts. It seems obvious why they are here and what they are trying to do. There is no point, counter-point... rather outrageous claim followed by an even more outrageous supporting cla I'm.
I agree, that at some point the mods have to moderate the discussion!
I can't help but laugh at the people on other forums upset that the Nexus 7 doesn't have an HDMi or MicroSD ports. Surely those additions are so simple and cost free to make that only Apple would ever consider such a thing¡ LOL
No cell radio option is the thing that I don't understand -- they have halved their market potential out of the gate.
No cell radio option is the thing that I don't understand -- they have halved their market potential out of the gate.
On this I will disagree. I doubt that half the market buys the cellular enabled iPad. Now consider that these are 40% of the IPad's price (or 505 if you count the iPad 2) and that Asus/Google would still need $100+ in a much smaller casing with a much smaller battery. It just becomes a daunting task.
I really hate what I'm seeing from the Nexus 7 device yet like what I saw with the Surface device. That said, MS has really screwed themselves by creating two incompatible platforms, having no sale date, no prices or pre-orders. Google has a single focus here, a price point and a very close sale date. These are commendable in and of themselves.
If this is popular they can always then add a cellular version or a larger version that also has a cellular version.
On this I will disagree. I doubt that half the market buys the cellular enabled iPad. Now consider that these are 40% of the IPad's price (or 505 if you count the iPad 2) and that Asus/Google would still need $100+ in a much smaller casing with a much smaller battery. It just becomes a daunting task.
I really hate what I'm seeing from the Nexus 7 device yet like what I saw with the Surface device. That said, MS has really screwed themselves by creating two incompatible platforms, having no sale date, no prices or pre-orders. Google has a single focus here, a price point and a very close sale date. These are commendable in and of themselves.
If this is popular they can always then add a cellular version or a larger version that also has a cellular version.
True!
Google is saying to MS: I've shown you mine -- you show me yours!
There is not enough time for MS to do anything but delay and hope...
I do not think Apple needs to do much of anything in response --- other than remain price competitive.
It's not something the GPU folks really want you to think about, so you need to go pretty deep in academic general purpose GPU literature to get solid technical descriptions.
Google is saying to MS: I've shown you mine -- you show me yours!
There is not enough time for MS to do anything but delay and hope...
I do not think Apple needs to do much of anything in response --- other than remain price competitive.
That poses the question: Do you think Apple is price competitive for iPad now? I ask because I don't see that Apple is competing on price they are competing on value against larger more feature complete tablets. Seems to me that Google Nexus 7 is competing with Amazon Kindle Fire while Microsoft is competing with Apple iPad. I think Google has a good strategy while Microsoft has a questionable strategy as Amazon seems a more vulnerable target especially for Google and Apple seems unassailable.
Here's a very basic one: http://blog.langly.org/2009/11/17/gpu-vs-cpu-cores/It's not something the GPU folks really want you to think about, so you need to go pretty deep in academic general purpose GPU literature to get solid technical descriptions.
Thank you. I understand it is obscure which is why I asked. I hadn't heard such previously.
That poses the question: Do you think Apple is price competitive for iPad now? I ask because I don't see that Apple is competing on price they are competing on value against larger more feature complete tablets. Seems to me that Google Nexus 7 is competing with Amazon Kindle Fire while Microsoft is competing with Apple iPad. I think Google has a good strategy while Microsoft has a questionable strategy as Amazon seems a more vulnerable target especially for Google and Apple seems unassailable.
Here's the deal... For $399 vs $250 -- the iPad 2 offers value (including the ecosystem) at a good price...
"Value at a good price".is the definition of a bargain!
Apple is selling capabilities and solutions -- all the others are selling features and price -- that is no bargin!
When I buy something, I am looking for something that does the job I want done -- not something that contains specs that could be used to address the job I want done.
Nexus 7 only positive is CPU/Gpu and as wth the surface tablet tetra 3 means no cellular. No se negates a feauture android has over iOS. 8-16g for a tablet is to small, no rear camera also sucks. IMHO they needed 2 versions Nother on 25$-300$ wth sd and rea camera.
IMHO a 7" iPad with retina (which the surface also don't have), 16-32g and LTE will dominate. iPad tabl apps are exponentially better design and functional that android tablet apps...
Nexus 7 only positive is CPU/Gpu and as wth the surface tablet tetra 3 means no cellular. No se negates a feauture android has over iOS. 8-16g for a tablet is to small, no rear camera also sucks. IMHO they needed 2 versions Nother on 25$-300$ wth sd and rea camera.
IMHO a 7" iPad with retina (which the surface also don't have), 16-32g and LTE will dominate. iPad tabl apps are exponentially better design and functional that android tablet apps...
No need for cellular if you have an Android phone with mobile Wifi hotspot. As for MS, they claim their screen technology makes pixels indistinguishable. How good it'll look? Who knows, lets wait and see.
and over my next couple of years of ownership i'll be able to upgrade that to, what, android 4.1 jelly bean?
Asus is quite proactive with updates. I have first generation Transformer and it runs latest ICS 4.0.3, released by Asus and updated through Play Store (no hacking involved, all squeaky clean). Jelly Bean is also expected for original Transformer.
I don't get it. The competitions' fans are molesting this site and no one is doing anything.
Apple Insider is just days from losing a customer but replacing me with 100 people who will clearly never buy anything from Apple Insider.
That's really funny coming from a guy who's been here for less than a year. Sorry if true arguments are difficult to answer to.
I'd consider going the other way personally. I don't mind going to an iPhone. But I have 3 conditions:
1) I'm not giving up my plan. No phone or "user experience" is worth the increased burn rate on my cash flow. Here in Canada, the majors have 3 year contracts too. So it's $80 per month for 3 years + $200 for the latest iPhone. Or I pay for my device, get unlimited everything with Wind and $40 per month. Even after paying $600 for Galaxy Nexus, I'm still saving more than the iPhone-toting hipsters. So for me, my network and plan is everything. I'm not paying twice the bill for the "experience".
2) Screen size. Sorry. I thought the iPhone was too small when I had a Nexus One. Now that I have a Galaxy Nexus, any screen less than 4 inches is unusable to me.
3) Maps and Navigation. I was excited to see Apple launch its own maps. Now I'm hearing all kinds of fail rumours. This sucks. I use Google Maps regularly. Particularly transit navigation. I'd like to see Apple fix this.
I agree, 3.5" is too small for me now too especially after using my One X. I downloaded the new version of Google Maps they just released and its only getting better!
One feature I really can't do without on my One X is the email scheduling, I really don't want to see emails from work after hours. Not sure why Apple won't add this as I'd love this on my iPad.
For me it's the lack of rear camera that kills it, I did not expect to take pretty HD landscape pictures,,, but I'd use it for convenient data entry , Google goggle anyone ? At the very worst I scan QR codes... No care at all about front cam, I wish someone could make a small mirror device or something to swap this.
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I don't get it. The competitions' fans are molesting this site and no one is doing anything.
Apple Insider is just days from losing a customer but replacing me with 100 people who will clearly never buy anything from Apple Insider.
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
Wow!
Between the Surface and Nexus 7 announcements, the posts here on AI have been amazing -- this week it has been "All Skate" for trolls!
Just imagine: If MS could convert half of the Android trolls or vice versa, they would sell millions...
Of course, trolls don't actually buy anything... Except for DaHarder -- he buys 9 of everything... including the MS Courier TabletBook;)
So true.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
I don't get it. The competitions' fans are molesting this site and no one is doing anything.
Apple Insider is just days from losing a customer but replacing me with 100 people who will clearly never buy anything from Apple Insider.
Molesting... An interesting choice of words!
I've noticed that the most off-the-wall posts come from people with a join date of a month or so ago, and a very few posts. It seems obvious why they are here and what they are trying to do. There is no point, counter-point... rather outrageous claim followed by an even more outrageous supporting cla I'm.
I agree, that at some point the mods have to moderate the discussion!
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I can't help but laugh at the people on other forums upset that the Nexus 7 doesn't have an HDMi or MicroSD ports. Surely those additions are so simple and cost free to make that only Apple would ever consider such a thing¡ LOL
No cell radio option is the thing that I don't understand -- they have halved their market potential out of the gate.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Apple Insider is just days from losing a customer but replacing me with 100 people who will clearly never buy anything from Apple Insider.
You are not AppleInsider's customer. You are the product that they sell.
AppleInsider's customer is Google, along with all the other ad companies.
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
You are not AppleInsider's customer. You are the product that they sell.
AppleInsider's customer is Google, along with all the other ad companies.
J'accuse!
On this I will disagree. I doubt that half the market buys the cellular enabled iPad. Now consider that these are 40% of the IPad's price (or 505 if you count the iPad 2) and that Asus/Google would still need $100+ in a much smaller casing with a much smaller battery. It just becomes a daunting task.
I really hate what I'm seeing from the Nexus 7 device yet like what I saw with the Surface device. That said, MS has really screwed themselves by creating two incompatible platforms, having no sale date, no prices or pre-orders. Google has a single focus here, a price point and a very close sale date. These are commendable in and of themselves.
If this is popular they can always then add a cellular version or a larger version that also has a cellular version.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
On this I will disagree. I doubt that half the market buys the cellular enabled iPad. Now consider that these are 40% of the IPad's price (or 505 if you count the iPad 2) and that Asus/Google would still need $100+ in a much smaller casing with a much smaller battery. It just becomes a daunting task.
I really hate what I'm seeing from the Nexus 7 device yet like what I saw with the Surface device. That said, MS has really screwed themselves by creating two incompatible platforms, having no sale date, no prices or pre-orders. Google has a single focus here, a price point and a very close sale date. These are commendable in and of themselves.
If this is popular they can always then add a cellular version or a larger version that also has a cellular version.
True!
Google is saying to MS: I've shown you mine -- you show me yours!
There is not enough time for MS to do anything but delay and hope...
I do not think Apple needs to do much of anything in response --- other than remain price competitive.
Are you serious? What is the point then? Do you have any hyperlinks where I can read more?
Here's a very basic one: http://blog.langly.org/2009/11/17/gpu-vs-cpu-cores/It's not something the GPU folks really want you to think about, so you need to go pretty deep in academic general purpose GPU literature to get solid technical descriptions.
That poses the question: Do you think Apple is price competitive for iPad now? I ask because I don't see that Apple is competing on price they are competing on value against larger more feature complete tablets. Seems to me that Google Nexus 7 is competing with Amazon Kindle Fire while Microsoft is competing with Apple iPad. I think Google has a good strategy while Microsoft has a questionable strategy as Amazon seems a more vulnerable target especially for Google and Apple seems unassailable.
Thank you. I understand it is obscure which is why I asked. I hadn't heard such previously.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
That poses the question: Do you think Apple is price competitive for iPad now? I ask because I don't see that Apple is competing on price they are competing on value against larger more feature complete tablets. Seems to me that Google Nexus 7 is competing with Amazon Kindle Fire while Microsoft is competing with Apple iPad. I think Google has a good strategy while Microsoft has a questionable strategy as Amazon seems a more vulnerable target especially for Google and Apple seems unassailable.
Here's the deal... For $399 vs $250 -- the iPad 2 offers value (including the ecosystem) at a good price...
"Value at a good price".is the definition of a bargain!
Apple is selling capabilities and solutions -- all the others are selling features and price -- that is no bargin!
When I buy something, I am looking for something that does the job I want done -- not something that contains specs that could be used to address the job I want done.
IMHO a 7" iPad with retina (which the surface also don't have), 16-32g and LTE will dominate. iPad tabl apps are exponentially better design and functional that android tablet apps...
No need for cellular if you have an Android phone with mobile Wifi hotspot. As for MS, they claim their screen technology makes pixels indistinguishable. How good it'll look? Who knows, lets wait and see.
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Originally Posted by Pooch
and over my next couple of years of ownership i'll be able to upgrade that to, what, android 4.1 jelly bean?Asus is quite proactive with updates. I have first generation Transformer and it runs latest ICS 4.0.3, released by Asus and updated through Play Store (no hacking involved, all squeaky clean). Jelly Bean is also expected for original Transformer.
That's really funny coming from a guy who's been here for less than a year. Sorry if true arguments are difficult to answer to.
Wow - I hadn't read comments from apple fans for last 6-8 months....the smug level is increasing...need to move to a log scale.
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Originally Posted by Jetz
I'd consider going the other way personally. I don't mind going to an iPhone. But I have 3 conditions:
1) I'm not giving up my plan. No phone or "user experience" is worth the increased burn rate on my cash flow. Here in Canada, the majors have 3 year contracts too. So it's $80 per month for 3 years + $200 for the latest iPhone. Or I pay for my device, get unlimited everything with Wind and $40 per month. Even after paying $600 for Galaxy Nexus, I'm still saving more than the iPhone-toting hipsters. So for me, my network and plan is everything. I'm not paying twice the bill for the "experience".
2) Screen size. Sorry. I thought the iPhone was too small when I had a Nexus One. Now that I have a Galaxy Nexus, any screen less than 4 inches is unusable to me.
3) Maps and Navigation. I was excited to see Apple launch its own maps. Now I'm hearing all kinds of fail rumours. This sucks. I use Google Maps regularly. Particularly transit navigation. I'd like to see Apple fix this.
I agree, 3.5" is too small for me now too especially after using my One X. I downloaded the new version of Google Maps they just released and its only getting better!
One feature I really can't do without on my One X is the email scheduling, I really don't want to see emails from work after hours. Not sure why Apple won't add this as I'd love this on my iPad.
For me it's the lack of rear camera that kills it, I did not expect to take pretty HD landscape pictures,,, but I'd use it for convenient data entry , Google goggle anyone ? At the very worst I scan QR codes... No care at all about front cam, I wish someone could make a small mirror device or something to swap this.