Using big words doesn't make you clever, and you know you shouldn't speculate on the level of someone you're talking to on the net. Anyway you chose to ignore my point.
I had a 3GS too and loved it but I'm not the kind of person to keep the same cellphone for three years in a row. But that's just me, just as if you don't need NFC doesn't mean others don't use it, for file sharing or payment.
I'm talking OS, you talk apps...
Big words don't make one clever and neither does ridiculing someone who used them.
I still have the same phone because it works and I have no spare cash flow to support an upgrade at this point. We all have our reasons.
I would use NFC if it was available but what is the big deal with not having it when there are so few terminals anywhere. If they were as common as card machines are now at checkouts everywhere, you would have a point. What phones have them now?
Apple Maps have a long way to go? Do you have any evidence? Does Google Maps have the following:
2D "standard" views
3D "standard" views
2D "hybrid" views
3D "hybrid" views
2D satellite views
3D satellite views
3D Flyover
traffic indicators
voice-activated search
voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing
Yelp! integration
Maps functionality was previously provided by Google's architecture and infrastructure and Google chose to not provide 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing to the Apple iPhone. Now that Apple is providing their own architecture and infrastructure Apple iPhone has 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing. Maps is now clearly superior.
Siri is amazing! Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
Ecosystem. The ability to safely purchase Apps, Books, Movies, Music, Podcasts and TV Shows on your device and know that they are optimized for your device and are permanently stored in the cloud for you to use on demand is extremely powerful. Now that Apple has extended iTunes to more than 155 countries we will begin seeing the demise of Google Android. We understand that you, as an Android pundit, might not understand these concepts. Smartphones do far more than make telephone calls.
Software Updates. Frankly, this is one of the dozen major issues with Google Android. Google just doesn't care about consumers they care about their customers, the advertisers. Buying an Android-based smartphone today virtually guarantees you won't have Android 4.1 Jelly Bean for another twelve months, but most likely never.
NFC Support. Millions of people aren't walking into restaurants and paying for their meal with their Android-based smartphone. NFC Support is a gimmick.
Offline Dictation. I guess you need offline dictation when Google sells you a mobile device that isn't really mobile.
Great Maps and Navigation. 2D and 3D views with Flyover and voice-activated, voice-guided turn-by-turn dynamic routing navigation and Yelp! integration that displays appropriate detail based on the zoom level in one Map! When will Google catch up?
Notification Center. Are you saying Google's notifications aren't very good?
Voice Search. Siri is absolutely amazing! Too bad that third-class wannabe from Google sucks so hard.
You better get down of your high horses right now because you are acting exactly like the typical stereotypical pretentious Apple fanboy. You aren't any better than anyone else just because you are using Apple products. For your info, I was a happy owner of a 3G and 3GS, I own an iMac and a MacBook Pro as well as an iPad. Am I sufficently qualified to express my opinion, sir? Do I have your permission?
Ecosystem : you are defining iTunes, but all that applies to Google Play as well.
Updates : I'm buying Google Phones, my Nexus S is still supported after 2 years.
NFC : it's a gimmick until Apple puts it in their next phone
Dictation : gratuitous statement
Maps : people always say here that you shouldn't compare that isn't even out with something that has been out for years. You obviously didn't try the beta... Again, your trolling is a total fail, everything you are talking about already exists on Google Maps (plus street view (yeah you don't use it I know)), 3D is soon coming, and, what? Yelp?? Lol that only works in the US, it's not as complete as Google adresses.
Notifications : on ICS they are already better tham on iOS (single tap all-erase, better sorting). They are even better on JB (direct mail, messages, g+ fast answers in the notification tray.
Siri : it's so great that it's still called a beta, it often fails, it's uncapable of answering a simple question, it's uncapable to understand "itinerary to Wall Street" from outside the maps app.
Siri being amazing is your opinion which I do not share. To each is own I guess.
Apple Maps is clearly superior to all that garbage on the display that isn't needed. The text on Apple Maps is larger and more readable and doesn't distract from key points of interest. The traffic view on Google Maps has so much red I can't even tell where the real traffic problems are. Seriously, I would have thought with seven years Google would be able to do better than a new beta Map app from Apple. Sadly, the review is even biased toward Google but the Apple Maps are clearly superior. No discussion of 3D, no discussion of 3D Flyover, no discussion of search functionality or Yelp! integration, etc.
"Of those who currently own the iPhone 4S, 33.3% have found Siri to be very helpful and impressive. 44.4% found it to be fairly helpful and impressive, and 22.2% have not really used it enough to make a decision. No respondents were disappointed with Siri thus far."
"... 55 percent describing themselves as quite satisfied with Siri's functionality ..."
"87 percent iPhone 4S owners use Siri at least monthly"
"Roughly one third of iPhone 4S owners use Siri “almost daily”"
Of course, you could have found that information for yourself. You just aren't being honest.
Apple Maps is clearly superior to all that garbage on the display that isn't needed. The text on Apple Maps is larger and more readable and doesn't distract from key points of interest. The traffic view on Google Maps has so much red I can't even tell where the real traffic problems are. Seriously, I would have thought with seven years Google would be able to do better than a new beta Map app from Apple. Sadly, the review is even biased toward Google but the Apple Maps are clearly superior.
"Of those who currently own the iPhone 4S, 33.3% have found Siri to be very helpful and impressive. 44.4% found it to be fairly helpful and impressive, and 22.2% have not really used it enough to make a decision. No respondents were disappointed with Siri thus far."
"... 55 percent describing themselves as quite satisfied with Siri's functionality ..."
"87 percent iPhone 4S owners use Siri at least monthly"
"Roughly one third of iPhone 4S owners use Siri “almost daily”"
Of course, you could have found that information for yourself. You just aren't being honest.
Garbage as in information? The Apple maps are clearly very basic in the current form but I imagine they will improve over time.
Apple Maps have a long way to go? Do you have any evidence? Does Google Maps have the following:
2D "standard" views
3D "standard" views
2D "hybrid" views
3D "hybrid" views
2D satellite views
3D satellite views
3D Flyover
traffic indicators
voice-activated search
voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing
Yelp! integration
Maps functionality was previously provided by Google's architecture and infrastructure and Google chose to not provide 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing to the Apple iPhone. Now that Apple is providing their own architecture and infrastructure Apple iPhone has 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing. Maps is now clearly superior.
Siri is amazing! Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
I don't understand what are you trying to do. Are you completely ignorant of what maps looks on Android or are you trying to publicize android in an odd way?
so :
Yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
coming soon
yes and much better than the crowdsourced ones on ios
Car GPS referring to the hardware GPS that I keep in my car purchased from Newegg.
OK...Mapquest works OK. Point is I don't really use it. Also use Motion-GPS, works ok but not high on my priorities. If I need mapping done, I go to google.com and route things there.
Apple Maps have a long way to go? Do you have any evidence? Does Google Maps have the following:
2D "standard" views
3D "standard" views
2D "hybrid" views
3D "hybrid" views
2D satellite views
3D satellite views
3D Flyover
traffic indicators
voice-activated search
voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing
Yelp! integration
Maps functionality was previously provided by Google's architecture and infrastructure and Google chose to not provide 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing to the Apple iPhone. Now that Apple is providing their own architecture and infrastructure Apple iPhone has 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing. Maps is now clearly superior.
Siri is amazing! Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
Google maps definitely has all but maybe one of those. And then street view on top of it.
As for Siri, the new google search is miles ahead of it right now.
I don't understand what are you trying to do. Are you completely ignorant of what maps looks on Android or are you trying to publicize android in an odd way?
so :
Yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
coming soon
yes and much better than the crowdsourced ones on ios
yes, for like 3 years
yes, dynamic routing coming with google Now
no, but google adresses is great
we are comparing maps on ios and on android
plus streetview
Ecosystem : you are defining iTunes, but all that applies to Google Play as well.
....
NFC : it's a gimmick until Apple puts it in their next phone
....
I don't get the Ecosystem argument these days. Google has an amazing ecosystem with Google products that people use everyday. Search, Mail, Maps, Calendar, etc. How come nobody counts that in the ecosystem? On this front, Apple's "ecosystem" only works if you never ever stray outside the Apple Store for electronics. Easy for the AI faithful. Most real world humans aren't like that. They might be somebody like me (iMac, Apple TV, Android phone) or more than likely Windows/iPhone/iPod. Etc.
As for media. Google Music. I've uploaded my whole iTunes library. Books. Google's got a decent collection of eBooks last I checked. Movies. I'll concede this one. Google seems to be behind on licensing content.
On the whole, the ecosystem argument is really starting to wear thin on us regular folk. Not all of us are Apple all the time. And for us the Apple ecosystem is not as fluid as some would make it out to be.
Agree on the NFC argument too. Every iFan will call it a gimmick till the new iPhone launches with an NFC chip and Passbook supports mobile payments. Will it be a gimmick then? Google deserves criticism for not doing much with NFC or for the flop that is Google Wallet. But the tech itself? Calling it a gimmick? Really?
Ha Ha! I wouldn't buy a vehicle without in-dash GPS because any auto trim package I would consider automatically comes with it along with all the other screen based features for backup video, music, phone integration, systems status, voice activated search etc. plus it is a nice big screen. I suppose you would recommend some third party iPad dash mount kit that obstructs your windshield instead?
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X86, so it would install desktop Flash. The RT version wouldn't support it, I don't believe.
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX
Using big words doesn't make you clever, and you know you shouldn't speculate on the level of someone you're talking to on the net. Anyway you chose to ignore my point.
I had a 3GS too and loved it but I'm not the kind of person to keep the same cellphone for three years in a row. But that's just me, just as if you don't need NFC doesn't mean others don't use it, for file sharing or payment.
I'm talking OS, you talk apps...
Big words don't make one clever and neither does ridiculing someone who used them.
I still have the same phone because it works and I have no spare cash flow to support an upgrade at this point. We all have our reasons.
I would use NFC if it was available but what is the big deal with not having it when there are so few terminals anywhere. If they were as common as card machines are now at checkouts everywhere, you would have a point. What phones have them now?
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Apple Maps have a long way to go? Do you have any evidence? Does Google Maps have the following:
2D "standard" views
3D "standard" views
2D "hybrid" views
3D "hybrid" views
2D satellite views
3D satellite views
3D Flyover
traffic indicators
voice-activated search
voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing
Yelp! integration
Maps functionality was previously provided by Google's architecture and infrastructure and Google chose to not provide 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing to the Apple iPhone. Now that Apple is providing their own architecture and infrastructure Apple iPhone has 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing. Maps is now clearly superior.
Siri is amazing! Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
For a start but you could have found this and many other reviews almost the same http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/06/google-maps-vs-apple-maps-a-side-by-side-comparison/
Siri being amazing is your opinion which I do not share. To each is own I guess.
Was thinking about getting an ipad within a couple months.
Looks like I'll be getting one of these instead!
Can't beat $199 for a device like this. This will push the Kindle Fire / Nook Tablet out of the market.
Too late. It's fragmented. You can't unspill milk.
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Originally Posted by MaroonMushroom
Was thinking about getting an ipad within a couple months.
Looks like I'll be getting one of these instead!
Can't beat $199 for a device like this. This will push the Kindle Fire / Nook Tablet out of the market.
So... what you are buying is "price"!
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Ecosystem. The ability to safely purchase Apps, Books, Movies, Music, Podcasts and TV Shows on your device and know that they are optimized for your device and are permanently stored in the cloud for you to use on demand is extremely powerful. Now that Apple has extended iTunes to more than 155 countries we will begin seeing the demise of Google Android. We understand that you, as an Android pundit, might not understand these concepts. Smartphones do far more than make telephone calls.
Software Updates. Frankly, this is one of the dozen major issues with Google Android. Google just doesn't care about consumers they care about their customers, the advertisers. Buying an Android-based smartphone today virtually guarantees you won't have Android 4.1 Jelly Bean for another twelve months, but most likely never.
NFC Support. Millions of people aren't walking into restaurants and paying for their meal with their Android-based smartphone. NFC Support is a gimmick.
Offline Dictation. I guess you need offline dictation when Google sells you a mobile device that isn't really mobile.
Great Maps and Navigation. 2D and 3D views with Flyover and voice-activated, voice-guided turn-by-turn dynamic routing navigation and Yelp! integration that displays appropriate detail based on the zoom level in one Map! When will Google catch up?
Notification Center. Are you saying Google's notifications aren't very good?
Voice Search. Siri is absolutely amazing! Too bad that third-class wannabe from Google sucks so hard.
You better get down of your high horses right now because you are acting exactly like the typical stereotypical pretentious Apple fanboy. You aren't any better than anyone else just because you are using Apple products. For your info, I was a happy owner of a 3G and 3GS, I own an iMac and a MacBook Pro as well as an iPad. Am I sufficently qualified to express my opinion, sir? Do I have your permission?
Ecosystem : you are defining iTunes, but all that applies to Google Play as well.
Updates : I'm buying Google Phones, my Nexus S is still supported after 2 years.
NFC : it's a gimmick until Apple puts it in their next phone
Dictation : gratuitous statement
Maps : people always say here that you shouldn't compare that isn't even out with something that has been out for years. You obviously didn't try the beta... Again, your trolling is a total fail, everything you are talking about already exists on Google Maps (plus street view (yeah you don't use it I know)), 3D is soon coming, and, what? Yelp?? Lol that only works in the US, it's not as complete as Google adresses.
Notifications : on ICS they are already better tham on iOS (single tap all-erase, better sorting). They are even better on JB (direct mail, messages, g+ fast answers in the notification tray.
Siri : it's so great that it's still called a beta, it often fails, it's uncapable of answering a simple question, it's uncapable to understand "itinerary to Wall Street" from outside the maps app.
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Originally Posted by icoco3
Maps: Mapquest works for me. My car GPS is even better so who cares.
Only a sucker pays for an in-car GPS.
And Mapquest? Really? Yuck!
Apple Maps is clearly superior to all that garbage on the display that isn't needed. The text on Apple Maps is larger and more readable and doesn't distract from key points of interest. The traffic view on Google Maps has so much red I can't even tell where the real traffic problems are. Seriously, I would have thought with seven years Google would be able to do better than a new beta Map app from Apple. Sadly, the review is even biased toward Google but the Apple Maps are clearly superior. No discussion of 3D, no discussion of 3D Flyover, no discussion of search functionality or Yelp! integration, etc.
"Of those who currently own the iPhone 4S, 33.3% have found Siri to be very helpful and impressive. 44.4% found it to be fairly helpful and impressive, and 22.2% have not really used it enough to make a decision. No respondents were disappointed with Siri thus far."
"... 55 percent describing themselves as quite satisfied with Siri's functionality ..."
"87 percent iPhone 4S owners use Siri at least monthly"
"Roughly one third of iPhone 4S owners use Siri “almost daily”"
Of course, you could have found that information for yourself. You just aren't being honest.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Apple Maps is clearly superior to all that garbage on the display that isn't needed. The text on Apple Maps is larger and more readable and doesn't distract from key points of interest. The traffic view on Google Maps has so much red I can't even tell where the real traffic problems are. Seriously, I would have thought with seven years Google would be able to do better than a new beta Map app from Apple. Sadly, the review is even biased toward Google but the Apple Maps are clearly superior.
"Of those who currently own the iPhone 4S, 33.3% have found Siri to be very helpful and impressive. 44.4% found it to be fairly helpful and impressive, and 22.2% have not really used it enough to make a decision. No respondents were disappointed with Siri thus far."
"... 55 percent describing themselves as quite satisfied with Siri's functionality ..."
"87 percent iPhone 4S owners use Siri at least monthly"
"Roughly one third of iPhone 4S owners use Siri “almost daily”"
Of course, you could have found that information for yourself. You just aren't being honest.
Garbage as in information? The Apple maps are clearly very basic in the current form but I imagine they will improve over time.
Not sure where you got your stats from but you can get stats both ways I'm sure i.e. http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-Siri-the-iPhone-4S-voice-operated-personal-assistant_id26980/
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Apple Maps have a long way to go? Do you have any evidence? Does Google Maps have the following:
2D "standard" views
3D "standard" views
2D "hybrid" views
3D "hybrid" views
2D satellite views
3D satellite views
3D Flyover
traffic indicators
voice-activated search
voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing
Yelp! integration
Maps functionality was previously provided by Google's architecture and infrastructure and Google chose to not provide 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing to the Apple iPhone. Now that Apple is providing their own architecture and infrastructure Apple iPhone has 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing. Maps is now clearly superior.
Siri is amazing! Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
I don't understand what are you trying to do. Are you completely ignorant of what maps looks on Android or are you trying to publicize android in an odd way?
so :
Yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
coming soon
yes and much better than the crowdsourced ones on ios
yes, for like 3 years
yes, dynamic routing coming with google Now
no, but google adresses is great
we are comparing maps on ios and on android
plus streetview
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
So... what you are buying is "price"!
Not at all!
7" screen is a lot more comfortable and portable. And recent hands on reports of this device have been amazing.
And because it's a nexus device, it's first in line for updates direct from Google.
Also that revamped search they announced today just destroyed Siri, haha.
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Originally Posted by Jetz
Only a sucker pays for an in-car GPS.
And Mapquest? Really? Yuck!
Car GPS referring to the hardware GPS that I keep in my car purchased from Newegg.
OK...Mapquest works OK. Point is I don't really use it. Also use Motion-GPS, works ok but not high on my priorities. If I need mapping done, I go to google.com and route things there.
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Originally Posted by fredaroony
Garbage as in information? The Apple maps are clearly very basic in the current form but I imagine they will improve over time.
Not sure where you got your stats from but you can get stats both ways I'm sure i.e. http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-Siri-the-iPhone-4S-voice-operated-personal-assistant_id26980/
His stats came from here:
http://aytm.com/blog/daily-survey-results/siri-survey/
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
Apple Maps have a long way to go? Do you have any evidence? Does Google Maps have the following:
2D "standard" views
3D "standard" views
2D "hybrid" views
3D "hybrid" views
2D satellite views
3D satellite views
3D Flyover
traffic indicators
voice-activated search
voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing
Yelp! integration
Maps functionality was previously provided by Google's architecture and infrastructure and Google chose to not provide 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing to the Apple iPhone. Now that Apple is providing their own architecture and infrastructure Apple iPhone has 3D Flyover or voice-activated, voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation with dynamic routing. Maps is now clearly superior.
Siri is amazing! Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
Google maps definitely has all but maybe one of those. And then street view on top of it.
As for Siri, the new google search is miles ahead of it right now.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
His stats came from here:
http://aytm.com/blog/daily-survey-results/siri-survey/
Interesting..only 2.3% of the respondents said they had a 4S lol!
The link I gave had more than three times the responses but like I said, stats are usually just crap anyway.
No. Just more dishonesty.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
No. Just more dishonesty.
Well I guess you can't expect anything more from someone who uses a Apple product as their name in a forum
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX
...
Ecosystem : you are defining iTunes, but all that applies to Google Play as well.
....
NFC : it's a gimmick until Apple puts it in their next phone
....
I don't get the Ecosystem argument these days. Google has an amazing ecosystem with Google products that people use everyday. Search, Mail, Maps, Calendar, etc. How come nobody counts that in the ecosystem? On this front, Apple's "ecosystem" only works if you never ever stray outside the Apple Store for electronics. Easy for the AI faithful. Most real world humans aren't like that. They might be somebody like me (iMac, Apple TV, Android phone) or more than likely Windows/iPhone/iPod. Etc.
As for media. Google Music. I've uploaded my whole iTunes library. Books. Google's got a decent collection of eBooks last I checked. Movies. I'll concede this one. Google seems to be behind on licensing content.
On the whole, the ecosystem argument is really starting to wear thin on us regular folk. Not all of us are Apple all the time. And for us the Apple ecosystem is not as fluid as some would make it out to be.
Agree on the NFC argument too. Every iFan will call it a gimmick till the new iPhone launches with an NFC chip and Passbook supports mobile payments. Will it be a gimmick then? Google deserves criticism for not doing much with NFC or for the flop that is Google Wallet. But the tech itself? Calling it a gimmick? Really?
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Originally Posted by Jetz
Only a sucker pays for an in-car GPS.
Ha Ha! I wouldn't buy a vehicle without in-dash GPS because any auto trim package I would consider automatically comes with it along with all the other screen based features for backup video, music, phone integration, systems status, voice activated search etc. plus it is a nice big screen. I suppose you would recommend some third party iPad dash mount kit that obstructs your windshield instead?