It's painful to watch Apple gift away sales that would come to them (probably in the tens of billions of dollars by now) by not simply launching a bigger phone. I don't understand it nor do I understand how they can justify it. Obviously, it's hypocritical they came out with the iPod mini.
It's painful to watch Apple gift away sales that would come to them (probably in the tens of billions of dollars by now) by not simply launching a bigger phone. I don't understand it nor do I understand how they can justify it. Obviously, it's hypocritical they came out with the iPod mini.
I had a long time Galaxy S3 user complain the other day it was a pain carrying around the large phone.
Tried playing with it for a while and I realized how much of user experience is lost with the size of the phone.
Lower cost does not mean cheap. And who says they will release one.
I agree.....Low cost does not mean cheap. I did not say cheap. C'mon the reports of a lower cost iphone has been all over AI and everywhere else on the internet.
Are you saying they are NOT going to release a lower cost iphone?
I agree.....Low cost does not mean cheap. I did not say cheap. C'mon the reports of a lower cost iphone has been all over AI and everywhere else on the internet.
Are you saying they are NOT going to release a lower cost iphone?
They will most likely release a mid level phone, just to shut the whole "Android is gaining market share crowd" . Lets watch and see
After a bunch of my Android friends looked at iOS 7 , I couldn't help but notice them adore the iPhone silently
Now all that's needed is a mid range device for a vast majority to jump ship .
I don't think you can trust IDC with their numbers. Samsung or other android manufacturers do not give out the number of smartphones or tablets sold in the quarter except Apple.
Anyway most of the Android smartphones or tablets sold are mostly low priced.
We should measure Apple's progress with IOS devices with their own past records. There is no point comparing with companies who do not compete as much in the high end market.
Apple has not soiled itself with the commodity smartphone market, but has chosen to own the high end of the market and let Android vendors fight for the commodity business. Apple owns the high value customers, which is obvious if you look at spending after purchase of apps and services. Apple's strategy of growing their base of loyal high value customers is working.
I don't think you can trust IDC with their numbers. Samsung or other android manufacturers do not give out the number of smartphones or tablets sold in the quarter except Apple.
Anyway most of the Android smartphones or tablets sold are mostly low priced.
We should measure Apple's progress with IOS devices with their own past records. There is no point comparing with companies who do not compete as much in the high end market.
Apple has not soiled itself with the commodity smartphone market, but has chosen to own the high end of the market and let Android vendors fight for the commodity business. Apple owns the high value customers, which is obvious if you look at spending after purchase of apps and services. Apple's strategy of growing their base of loyal high value customers is working.
Opening a mid category device wouldn't stop people from buying apps / content on the Eco System . 0.99$ - 1.25$ on an average is something the mid level user base would happily spend on iOS.
Now that's the important note, they'll spend 0.99$ on iOS coz there aren't other alternatives to get the app other than jailbreaking.
That's however not the case in the Android world, were you can gain access to apps from "n" number alternative sources.
OMG, the Android platform has had a bunch of new product announcements since April and Apple hasn't made a product announcement since last Sept. and they getting ready to release some more product in about a month or two, so guess what? The new products will be selling while others hold back and wait for Apple's new product announcement and just like previous years, there will be Apple customers lining up to buy iPhones either through retail stores or the on-line store. If Apple manages to sign up more large carriers in the mean time, then there will be even more people buying iPhones.
Otherwise, this is not anything out of the ordinary since it's just mentioning buying habits to get attention.
But did Apple do more sales this year than last year? YUP. I think that's all Apple really gives a crap about because they know that they don't go after the El Cheapo product market and haven't gone after the large screen market........................ YET. Plus Apple products are sold in less countries and less number of cell carriers. So, bottom line. DUH.
Something very cool about NOT being the mainstream.
I always loved Apple products, but also their underdog, not mainstream, aura.
That is what makes certain products very desirable.
That EVERYONE doesn't have them.
GO APPLE
Full Disclosure:
AAPL Share holder.
Apple is as mainstream as any company in the world. They are not an underdog anymore. Just because somebody in Spain is not buying an iPhone, they know the company.
I agree.....Low cost does not mean cheap. I did not say cheap. C'mon the reports of a lower cost iphone has been all over AI and everywhere else on the internet.
Are you saying they are NOT going to release a lower cost iphone?
Rumors. I do believe they will release a mid range iPhone, 300-400 off contract.
Ill tell you why, because I am a developer myself.
Say I create an App and sell it for 1$ on Apple's App store, I actually make 70% of that money per individual buying my app.
And on Apple's eco system tons of them buy those apps.
I put the same thing on Google Play, what's gonna happen is your App gets purchased by the hacker community, that will then Publish your app for free on the internet and tons of other stores out there.
Or even worse have it rebranded and make it look like there's and re-sell it back on Google Play.
End of the day no one buys them. (Coz you can get a free version on the web)
The state the Android eco system is, hardware manufacture's are making very less margin on the actual hardware.
They actually then plan on making money over E-Services. Which again is all in ruins.
Samsung's trying to promote there S-Hub and the rest , like Amazon promote there stores.. That just gives the hacker community more options to pirate your Apps for free or a cheaper price !
What are developers doing today about it ?
Sure ill make my app and put it on Apple's store make the money, and then make a lesser quality version of the app (dont care if it's got a few bugs) and put it in Google Play with ADs in it. Yeah so the developers really only planning on taking home AD revenues from Android.
Sure there are more people out there to watch my AD's so ill end up making a little, but nothing even close to what I make on Apple's Store.
Now really Androids still winning the race ?? It's what I said earlier Apple's taking home all the mobile profits..
Do you actually have an app on both platforms or are you using a hypothetical?
Something very cool about NOT being the mainstream.
I always loved Apple products, but also their underdog, not mainstream, aura.
That is what makes certain products very desirable.
That EVERYONE doesn't have them.
You're in the minority here then. Most AI posters believe that everyone in the entire world should own an iPhone otherwise they are stupid/poor/<insert other derogatory comment>.
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Originally Posted by Ruzzell
It's painful to watch Apple gift away sales that would come to them (probably in the tens of billions of dollars by now) by not simply launching a bigger phone. I don't understand it nor do I understand how they can justify it. Obviously, it's hypocritical they came out with the iPod mini.
I had a long time Galaxy S3 user complain the other day it was a pain carrying around the large phone.
Tried playing with it for a while and I realized how much of user experience is lost with the size of the phone.
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Originally Posted by macslut
Who do you think does the recommending?
It's people who do care about their operating system.
Oh and besides the shills at the stores.
They pay of editors at certain websites to push articles in there favor, to psychologically brain wash general users.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Lower cost does not mean cheap. And who says they will release one.
I agree.....Low cost does not mean cheap. I did not say cheap. C'mon the reports of a lower cost iphone has been all over AI and everywhere else on the internet.
Are you saying they are NOT going to release a lower cost iphone?
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Originally Posted by geekdad
I agree.....Low cost does not mean cheap. I did not say cheap. C'mon the reports of a lower cost iphone has been all over AI and everywhere else on the internet.
Are you saying they are NOT going to release a lower cost iphone?
They will most likely release a mid level phone, just to shut the whole "Android is gaining market share crowd"
After a bunch of my Android friends looked at iOS 7 , I couldn't help but notice them adore the iPhone silently
Now all that's needed is a mid range device for a vast majority to jump ship .
Anyway most of the Android smartphones or tablets sold are mostly low priced.
We should measure Apple's progress with IOS devices with their own past records. There is no point comparing with companies who do not compete as much in the high end market.
Apple has not soiled itself with the commodity smartphone market, but has chosen to own the high end of the market and let Android vendors fight for the commodity business. Apple owns the high value customers, which is obvious if you look at spending after purchase of apps and services. Apple's strategy of growing their base of loyal high value customers is working.
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Originally Posted by sammy100
I don't think you can trust IDC with their numbers. Samsung or other android manufacturers do not give out the number of smartphones or tablets sold in the quarter except Apple.
Anyway most of the Android smartphones or tablets sold are mostly low priced.
We should measure Apple's progress with IOS devices with their own past records. There is no point comparing with companies who do not compete as much in the high end market.
Apple has not soiled itself with the commodity smartphone market, but has chosen to own the high end of the market and let Android vendors fight for the commodity business. Apple owns the high value customers, which is obvious if you look at spending after purchase of apps and services. Apple's strategy of growing their base of loyal high value customers is working.
Opening a mid category device wouldn't stop people from buying apps / content on the Eco System . 0.99$ - 1.25$ on an average is something the mid level user base would happily spend on iOS.
Now that's the important note, they'll spend 0.99$ on iOS coz there aren't other alternatives to get the app other than jailbreaking.
That's however not the case in the Android world, were you can gain access to apps from "n" number alternative sources.
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Originally Posted by nikilok
They will most likely release a mid level phone, just to shut the whole "Android is gaining market share crowd"
After a bunch of my Android friends looked at iOS 7 , I couldn't help but notice them adore the iPhone silently
Now all that's needed is a mid range device for a vast majority to jump ship .
I agree....they will release a lower cost iphone. :-)
I also think you will see Apple gain back a ton of sales and market share with the release of 2 iphones.....
Ummm yes it does.
cheap (chp)
adj. cheap·er, cheap·est
1. Relatively low in cost; inexpensive or comparatively inexpensive.
Otherwise, this is not anything out of the ordinary since it's just mentioning buying habits to get attention.
But did Apple do more sales this year than last year? YUP. I think that's all Apple really gives a crap about because they know that they don't go after the El Cheapo product market and haven't gone after the large screen market........................ YET. Plus Apple products are sold in less countries and less number of cell carriers. So, bottom line. DUH.
Those pigs need feeding.
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Originally Posted by BuffyzDead
I LOVE these numbers.
Something very cool about NOT being the mainstream.
I always loved Apple products, but also their underdog, not mainstream, aura.
That is what makes certain products very desirable.
That EVERYONE doesn't have them.
GO APPLE
Full Disclosure:
AAPL Share holder.
Apple is as mainstream as any company in the world. They are not an underdog anymore. Just because somebody in Spain is not buying an iPhone, they know the company.
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Originally Posted by kv4884
these numbers doesn't make any sense. your headline is misleading. you compared whole android OS to iPhone.
There are multiple iPhones.
Rumors. I do believe they will release a mid range iPhone, 300-400 off contract.
Surely you're not being this dense. Cheap means low cost but lower cost doesn't mean cheap.
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Originally Posted by BuffyzDead
I LOVE these numbers.
Something very cool about NOT being the mainstream.
I always loved Apple products, but also their underdog, not mainstream, aura.
That is what makes certain products very desirable.
That EVERYONE doesn't have them.
You're in the minority here then. Most AI posters believe that everyone in the entire world should own an iPhone otherwise they are stupid/poor/<insert other derogatory comment>.
I really don't think you understand why this website exists.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
You really really can't be that dense, and not know that this is a rumor site, right?
oh, oh yes, he most certainly can be. Have you read the rest of his contributions so far?
I'm verging on pulling the plug on that one, now that I've learned how...
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Originally Posted by Soloman
Money is money. The more ways you can find to make it the better.
er, ethically or otherwise, eh?
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Originally Posted by Soloman
Ummm yes it does.
cheap (chp)
adj. cheap·er, cheap·est
1. Relatively low in cost; inexpensive or comparatively inexpensive.
I think (and I also think you know) that the "cheap" they were referring to was the definition you conveniently left out:
2. Inexpensive because of inferior quality : cheap, shoddy goods.
or in your case:
• of little worth because achieved in a discreditable way requiring little effort : her moment of cheap triumph.• deserving of contempt : a cheap trick.