Sounds like a mixed bag. Doesn't matter though is the verdict will certainly be appealed.
What it probably does is put pressure on both sides to finally reach a settlement. The patents this time around were worth a lot less, at least according to the jury, and as time goes on Samsung is working around the patents more and more. Microsoft took a "license" approach rather than a "sue" approach, and perhaps we'll see Apple trend toward that. They've done that with HTC. My guess is that with Samsung it was personal given that they are a significant supplier and Apple felt double-crossed.
Not really. Sure, it's a lot better than last year's result, but the patents have value, which is what their counterclaim for $6.2 million was attempting to refute. More likely this puts pressure on both sides to reach a cross-licensing agreement of some sort. Maybe $2-4/phone net to Apple (less than what Apple gets from HTC, but over a larger volume).
It's a loss, but a win in aggregate. Lesson: if you're a big corporation crime pays.
That said, Samsung have twice now been found to be infringing. I'm guessing that they need to remove the infringing tech (or pay licensing fees) moving forward. Or am I wrong?
Darn it! I was hoping that Samsung would really get what it deserved and the jury decides to really punish them with triple of what Apple asked for... $6.6B would have really make Samsung cry like the little baby that they are.
In my classroom, I give cheaters a very hard time. I hate cheaters and copiers and Samsung is no different.
I had a feeling this jury couldn't see the forest for the trees and these results confirm that suspicion.
Next, I'd really love to see Apple get extremely aggressive about their acquisitions and start buying up critical suppliers to Samsung to cut the beast off where they live and work.
For the little it's worth Apple was also found to be an infringer.
What's weird is that Samsung succeeded in devaluing its own patents, but not in devaluing Apple's (at least not to the extent that they wanted to).
Overall, it's a much better day for Samsung than the last trial, but the larger message is that both sides have a stronger reason to reach a permanent settlement. They have a duopoly on smartphones right now and it's shaping up that way on the tablet side, as well. Neither is going to knock the other out of the game with IP.
The moral of the story? American patents don't protect American companies from jack****...or Apple needs to spend a heck of a lot more to corner the market and fence Samsung and Google in.
We should know shortly if due to willful infringement damages are doubled or trebled...or maybe no additional amount.
For the little it's worth Apple was also found to be an infringer.
What's weird is that Samsung succeeded in devaluing its own patents, but not in devaluing Apple's (at least not to the extent that they wanted to).
Overall, it's a much better day for Samsung than the last trial, but the larger message is that both sides have a stronger reason to reach a permanent settlement. They have a duopoly on smartphones right now and it's shaping up that way on the tablet side, as well. Neither is going to knock the other out of the game with IP.
there has a definite change in tone in the media of late with Samsung. Ever since the Smart Gear and S5, its been all bad. Same with Amazon and Google. Something has changed. The media has done a 180.
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Sounds like a mixed bag. Doesn't matter though is the verdict will certainly be appealed.
What it probably does is put pressure on both sides to finally reach a settlement. The patents this time around were worth a lot less, at least according to the jury, and as time goes on Samsung is working around the patents more and more. Microsoft took a "license" approach rather than a "sue" approach, and perhaps we'll see Apple trend toward that. They've done that with HTC. My guess is that with Samsung it was personal given that they are a significant supplier and Apple felt double-crossed.
DED's forehead is throbbing. Right. Now.
They beat me to this comment:
"They've spent more on lawyers in this case, most likely, than this damages award. But both sides will spin."
Oh, and Apple infringes on Samsung camera IP to the tune of $153K
$119.6M? Seriously? This is a win for Samsung.
Not really. Sure, it's a lot better than last year's result, but the patents have value, which is what their counterclaim for $6.2 million was attempting to refute. More likely this puts pressure on both sides to reach a cross-licensing agreement of some sort. Maybe $2-4/phone net to Apple (less than what Apple gets from HTC, but over a larger volume).
Jury finds Apple infringed Samsung camera folder patent...$158,400 in damages! Samsung wanted $6 million. LOL!
Jury finds Apple infringes Samsung camera folder patent. Ouch. $158,400 in damages. Not so ouch. Day of iPods at Target.
by hmintz 7:16 PM
$119.6M? Seriously? This is a win for Samsung.
It's a loss, but a win in aggregate. Lesson: if you're a big corporation crime pays.
It's a loss, but a win in aggregate. Lesson: if you're a big corporation crime pays.
That said, Samsung have twice now been found to be infringing. I'm guessing that they need to remove the infringing tech (or pay licensing fees) moving forward. Or am I wrong?
The amount is disturbing, but what do I know...
Somehow Apple's stock will be punished on Monday.
Oh, and you can't spell appeal without Apple.
In my classroom, I give cheaters a very hard time. I hate cheaters and copiers and Samsung is no different.
ok Apple.. fire up the next lawsuit for the 2013 devices. guess this will be an annual event.
I had a feeling this jury couldn't see the forest for the trees and these results confirm that suspicion.
Next, I'd really love to see Apple get extremely aggressive about their acquisitions and start buying up critical suppliers to Samsung to cut the beast off where they live and work.
For the little it's worth Apple was also found to be an infringer.
lol. 1000x less in magnitude. Bet Samsung paid more than $158K for the patents. lol.. nice one.
For the little it's worth Apple was also found to be an infringer.
What's weird is that Samsung succeeded in devaluing its own patents, but not in devaluing Apple's (at least not to the extent that they wanted to).
Overall, it's a much better day for Samsung than the last trial, but the larger message is that both sides have a stronger reason to reach a permanent settlement. They have a duopoly on smartphones right now and it's shaping up that way on the tablet side, as well. Neither is going to knock the other out of the game with IP.
The moral of the story? American patents don't protect American companies from jack****...or Apple needs to spend a heck of a lot more to corner the market and fence Samsung and Google in.
We should know shortly if due to willful infringement damages are doubled or trebled...or maybe no additional amount.
For the little it's worth Apple was also found to be an infringer.
What's weird is that Samsung succeeded in devaluing its own patents, but not in devaluing Apple's (at least not to the extent that they wanted to).
Overall, it's a much better day for Samsung than the last trial, but the larger message is that both sides have a stronger reason to reach a permanent settlement. They have a duopoly on smartphones right now and it's shaping up that way on the tablet side, as well. Neither is going to knock the other out of the game with IP.
there has a definite change in tone in the media of late with Samsung. Ever since the Smart Gear and S5, its been all bad. Same with Amazon and Google. Something has changed. The media has done a 180.