It's not called Angland, it's called England, and the people are called the English. Terrible, obviously flawed example.
Changing of a vowel is common in language, especially English. One could easily spell it Angland (or Ingland) post the great vowel shift, depending on one's pronunciation. That is a common way words change over time.
England noun
Old English Engla land, literally "the land of the Angles", used alongside Angelcynn "the English race," which, with other forms, shows Anglo-Saxon persistence in thinking in terms of tribes before place.
Obviously. And there's a clear lineage. Angles -> English, Engla land -> England. There's a clear lineage fHispania too -> Espania. But we're talking in the 21st century, not the 5th.
But just as Engla land is gone so too is Hispania, so too are the Angles, so too are the Hispanics. If you mean people of "Hispania", they are now called the Espanola, or Spanish. If you mean something else, well then you certainly don't mean Hispanic.
Ah, the Angles are gone, yet it’s still called England. Though “Hispania” is gone, they’re still called Hispanics.
But "they" don't include the Spanish who would be marked as white, not Hispanic white, in the American census but does include anybody from South America regardless of lineage.
It's a ridiculous term and only used in North America. Somebody who travelled to Europe who was a "Hispanic white" is just white. That's it. ( So the idea that whites will be a minority in the US is suspect or at least just definitional). I understand, however, that central Anerica is more mixed.
Here's a test. Do a search on google images for "Brazillian World Cup fans" - you will get more women that you expect but most people look white to my untrained eye, from Mediterranean to Northern European. Argentinian fans are whiter.
I just read an article in the Stanford Report on Jewish emigres from Germany in the 1930s to the U.S. who increased patents in their fields by 31%, and this was in the face of anti-semitism in universities and corporations. They succeeded despite the obstacles because of their superior intelligence and the quality of their work. The idea that if only Aborigines were "exposed" to math and physics then they'd have an equal chance of becoming an Einstein, is laughable. The same goes for the argument that if only minority groups or girls were encouraged to study computer science, we'd have more engineers, simply false.
With today's fetish for diversity, part of the multiculturalist religion of the political left, we the polar opposite being practiced. Your intellect and quality of your work are worth less if you are a white male. However, there's no evidence that ethic diversity is a net benefit for any society. Quite the opposite, increased diversity leads to greater friction between groups, lower trust and cooperation. Read Robert Putnam's "Bowling Alone" for proof of this.
I understand Apples push for diversity both from the perspective of broadening their appeal to global markets (because profits are their prime motivator) and because replacing white (or any other race for that matter) U.S. citizens with H1B Visa imports who can be paid much less, also helps their bottom line. From the perspective of pure capitalism, this is a sound strategy, if you have principles and don't want to see your country mutated into a diverse "market" to be harvested by corporations, it's a call to arms.
Jackson started his latest round of scamming in March. Apple's response, even though they've already had so-called diversity programs in place, is entirely in response to race-based shakedown artist Jackson.
That's what certain terrorist apologists say about the terrorists too. "We need to understand why they want to kill us! Let's find the root cause!" and other likeminded drivel.
Sorry, I don't buy into such twisted, backwards and demented logic. The root cause is that they are messed up in their heads, and they simply need to be eliminated. It's no more complicated than that. The problem will go away when they're dead.
And I do fully understand what is the root cause behind many racist accusations. It is because many ignorant liberals often resort to the race card, when they have few other arguments that they can utilize. I'm not talking specifically about you or anybody else on this forum, I am talking in general. They can use it as a weapon, often successfully, even if their claims are untrue, and so they continue to use it, though they know it's wrong. But, that doesn't matter to them of course, as anything goes.
These past few years, especially since the past few Presidential races, the race card has been fully worn out, and the liberals have completely damaged the meaning of the word racist, because it has lost most of its meaning. Nobody gives a crap about the boy who cried wolf, after they have been caught as a fraud for the tenth time. When the eleventh time comes around and there's a real wolf, nobody will help the boy, just as nobody is going to care about any real racism if it were to occur, because these people have been repeatedly falsely accused of being racists.
These people are the lowest of the low (the people who falsely play the race card and constantly make racist accusations), and they will get no pity from me, no matter what happens to them in the future.
I shouldn't reply to this "opinion".... I know... but whatever...(!)
You do realize that in many parts of the world, including many places in Europe I might add, it is America and/or the Israelis that are commonly referred to as the true terrorists.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" is quite common saying, which I'm sure you've probably heard of.
So with that in mind, can you possibly see for a minute why what you just wrote above... is exactly how the opposition feels and thinks about you? And why there are tensions? And why due to people such as yourself at the bargaining table for "peace" going into negotiations with that frame of mind... get absolutely nowhere?
Having people on both sides of an argument with your justified way of thinking... in the 21st century... dare I call it "like it is" and say... it's rather uncivilized for our times?!
I'm rather surprised that [@]SolipsismX[/@] hasn't corrected you... while agreed with you in that you're not a racist... you are the very definition and Poster Boy of a bigot.
big·ot noun \?bi-g?t\
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)
And please... don't go painting me as one of your hated liberals. I am a Passive Tolerant... until I can't passively tolerate your BS any longer. At which time I turn into a very Big. Bad. Wolf!
I'm rather surprised that [@]SolipsismX[/@] hasn't corrected you...
I didn't even read that post. With terrorist apologists as the 4th and 5th words of his comment my eyes keep getting locked in an eye roll so its unlikely I'll ever read it.
Maybe if you could read the language in which you’re trying to communicate, you’d understand how terrible and obviously flawed your “rebuttal” is.
Alas.
Originally Posted by asdasd
But "they" don't include the Spanish who would be marked as white, not Hispanic white, in the American census but does include anybody from South America regardless of lineage.
I stand corrected. Utterly stupid to call an entire half continent an ethnic group regardless of race. And include some Europeans. And other parts of the world colonised by Spain.
I will respond to this outrage by calling all English speaking countries from the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Guyana, India, Jamacia etc. Hanglos and insist it is one ethnic group.
Predictable as ever; I can certainly read that much. It's not as if you use particularly big words.
Maybe if you put a bit of effort into explaining how terrible and obviously flawed my "rebuttal" is (it wasn't really a rebuttal, but never mind about that), then someone might take you seriously?
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/181788/apple-reveals-most-employees-are-white-men-says-diversity-needs-to-be-improved/320#post_2578089" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>SpamSandwich</strong> <a href="/t/181788/apple-reveals-most-employees-are-white-men-says-diversity-needs-to-be-improved/320#post_2578089"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <p> </p><p>Why aren't "white people" (whatever that means) rioting in the streets every time a "white person" (whatever that means) gets murdered in a controversial way? I don't identify with criminals. I don't identify with rioters. I don't identify with people who choose to do stupid things that place themselves and others in harms way. I don't identify with law enforcement. I don't even identify with most "whites" (whatever that means).</p></div></div><p>Is it really necessary to answer that? At the same time, while I understand the emotions, I don't condone violence.</p>
Hang on. Why wouldn't this hidden unconscious discrimination not be based on class, nationality, state or university? Why would a white American be prejudiced towards a Russian or Albanian but not a Chinese-American who gets American humour?
And the stats in Apple - once again - show, and only show, that Apple is "biased" ( if the bias is there at all and not a reflection of educational achievement) relative to population to Asians at the expense of blacks and Hispanics but neutral towards whites.
Because what I've said, which is backed up by more than a few studies over the decades, isn't a total lock. These are tendencies. And the truth is that even white men seem to have respect for another man who is Asian. There are mental attitudes. Most people think of Asians as smart, hard working, family oriented and cooperative. I'm not saying that that's right or wrong, it's just the way most people think. In addition, most white men don't think of Asian men as threatening.
Again, the understanding of those attitudes come from numerous studies. Also, not saying whether they are true or not.
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/181788/apple-reveals-most-employees-are-white-men-says-diversity-needs-to-be-improved/320#post_2578089" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>SpamSandwich</strong> <a href="/t/181788/apple-reveals-most-employees-are-white-men-says-diversity-needs-to-be-improved/320#post_2578089"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <p> </p><p>Why aren't "white people" (whatever that means) rioting in the streets every time a "white person" (whatever that means) gets murdered in a controversial way? I don't identify with criminals. I don't identify with rioters. I don't identify with people who choose to do stupid things that place themselves and others in harms way. I don't identify with law enforcement. I don't even identify with most "whites" (whatever that means).</p></div></div><p>Is it really necessary to answer that? At the same time, while I understand the emotions, I don't con</p>
Because what I've said, which is backed up by more than a few studies over the decades, isn't a total lock. These are tendencies. And the truth is that even white men seem to have respect for another man who is Asian. There are mental attitudes. Most people think of Asians as smart, hard working, family oriented and cooperative. I'm not saying that that's right or wrong, it's just the way most people think. In addition, most white men don't think of Asian men as threatening.
Again, the understanding of those attitudes come from numerous studies. Also, not saying whether they are true or not.
These studies tend to look for what they want to look for. If nobody is testing for discrimination towards southerners you won't find it ( although I do remember a study suggesting that people thought people from the US South were more stupid than northerners when listening to accents. My bet is all non standard American accents will have that effect ).
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Ah, the Angles are gone, yet it’s still called England. Though “Hispania” is gone, they’re still called Hispanics.
It's not called Angland, it's called England, and the people are called the English. Terrible, obviously flawed example.
Changing of a vowel is common in language, especially English. One could easily spell it Angland (or Ingland) post the great vowel shift, depending on one's pronunciation. That is a common way words change over time.
Obviously. And there's a clear lineage. Angles -> English, Engla land -> England. There's a clear lineage fHispania too -> Espania. But we're talking in the 21st century, not the 5th.
But just as Engla land is gone so too is Hispania, so too are the Angles, so too are the Hispanics. If you mean people of "Hispania", they are now called the Espanola, or Spanish. If you mean something else, well then you certainly don't mean Hispanic.
A lot of obtuse Angles on this thread.
Right, and your comment is [a]cute.
But "they" don't include the Spanish who would be marked as white, not Hispanic white, in the American census but does include anybody from South America regardless of lineage.
It's a ridiculous term and only used in North America. Somebody who travelled to Europe who was a "Hispanic white" is just white. That's it. ( So the idea that whites will be a minority in the US is suspect or at least just definitional). I understand, however, that central Anerica is more mixed.
Here's a test. Do a search on google images for "Brazillian World Cup fans" - you will get more women that you expect but most people look white to my untrained eye, from Mediterranean to Northern European. Argentinian fans are whiter.
With today's fetish for diversity, part of the multiculturalist religion of the political left, we the polar opposite being practiced. Your intellect and quality of your work are worth less if you are a white male. However, there's no evidence that ethic diversity is a net benefit for any society. Quite the opposite, increased diversity leads to greater friction between groups, lower trust and cooperation. Read Robert Putnam's "Bowling Alone" for proof of this.
I understand Apples push for diversity both from the perspective of broadening their appeal to global markets (because profits are their prime motivator) and because replacing white (or any other race for that matter) U.S. citizens with H1B Visa imports who can be paid much less, also helps their bottom line. From the perspective of pure capitalism, this is a sound strategy, if you have principles and don't want to see your country mutated into a diverse "market" to be harvested by corporations, it's a call to arms.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4990464
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/3/19/5525696/reverend-jesse-jackson-calls-out-tech-companies-for-lack-of-diversity
Jackson started his latest round of scamming in March. Apple's response, even though they've already had so-called diversity programs in place, is entirely in response to race-based shakedown artist Jackson.
I shouldn't reply to this "opinion".... I know... but whatever...(!)
You do realize that in many parts of the world, including many places in Europe I might add, it is America and/or the Israelis that are commonly referred to as the true terrorists.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" is quite common saying, which I'm sure you've probably heard of.
So with that in mind, can you possibly see for a minute why what you just wrote above... is exactly how the opposition feels and thinks about you? And why there are tensions? And why due to people such as yourself at the bargaining table for "peace" going into negotiations with that frame of mind... get absolutely nowhere?
Having people on both sides of an argument with your justified way of thinking... in the 21st century... dare I call it "like it is" and say... it's rather uncivilized for our times?!
I'm rather surprised that [@]SolipsismX[/@] hasn't corrected you... while agreed with you in that you're not a racist... you are the very definition and Poster Boy of a bigot.
big·ot
noun \?bi-g?t\
: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)
And please... don't go painting me as one of your hated liberals. I am a Passive Tolerant... until I can't passively tolerate your BS any longer. At which time I turn into a very Big. Bad. Wolf!
As your response shows a lack of understanding, I'll type slower...
Apple's response is a defense against Jackson's campaign of attacks. Screw Jesse Jackson. Is that clear?
I didn't even read that post. With terrorist apologists as the 4th and 5th words of his comment my eyes keep getting locked in an eye roll so its unlikely I'll ever read it.
Maybe if you could read the language in which you’re trying to communicate, you’d understand how terrible and obviously flawed your “rebuttal” is.
Alas.
If you have no proof you need to STFU.
iPhone 5.5"
I stand corrected. Utterly stupid to call an entire half continent an ethnic group regardless of race. And include some Europeans. And other parts of the world colonised by Spain.
I will respond to this outrage by calling all English speaking countries from the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Guyana, India, Jamacia etc. Hanglos and insist it is one ethnic group.
Maybe if you could read the language in which you’re trying to communicate, you’d understand how terrible and obviously flawed your “rebuttal” is.
Alas.
Predictable as ever; I can certainly read that much. It's not as if you use particularly big words.
Maybe if you put a bit of effort into explaining how terrible and obviously flawed my "rebuttal" is (it wasn't really a rebuttal, but never mind about that), then someone might take you seriously?
Probably not though.
Because what I've said, which is backed up by more than a few studies over the decades, isn't a total lock. These are tendencies. And the truth is that even white men seem to have respect for another man who is Asian. There are mental attitudes. Most people think of Asians as smart, hard working, family oriented and cooperative. I'm not saying that that's right or wrong, it's just the way most people think. In addition, most white men don't think of Asian men as threatening.
Again, the understanding of those attitudes come from numerous studies. Also, not saying whether they are true or not.
These studies tend to look for what they want to look for. If nobody is testing for discrimination towards southerners you won't find it ( although I do remember a study suggesting that people thought people from the US South were more stupid than northerners when listening to accents. My bet is all non standard American accents will have that effect ).
There are more studies in the UK on class bias.