Really? You just have a billion posts stating that you use Happy Holidays!.
As I've stated, I celebrate Christmas and I say Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it. Those that don't I use the appropriate statement, and if I don't know I use the generalize Happy Holidays statement. This is really simple shit and you and Frost's posts sound insane to think this threatens your religion or customs in any way… but, oh yeah, Christians are so persecuted that they can't get anywhere in politics and they are on the verge of extinction. :rolleyes:
My knowledge of American history is weak. My understanding is that white man forced Red Indians, now called Native Americans, off their land and claimed it, resulting in a tension which still lasts today. Here, boys play cowboys and Indians, and the Indians are generally the baddies.
I presume you're saying that they should get along. Correct me as needed.
That's about right, but nothing the Brits didn’t do all over the world.
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?! All the ones where you say that you say you tell everyone Merry Christmas without consideration for other cultures, as well as all the ones you claim that not saying Merry Christmas to everyone — as opposed to just those that celebrate the holiday — will somehow "dilute" the meaning of Christmas and wear away your persecuted religion.
You're joking, right? You inferred all that from two words. Somebody has issues. I never said my religion was persecuted.
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
I'm a person and I accept the customs of the different religions in my community and the communities in which I visit so, again, it clearly exists even though you choose to be intolerant.
"The next time you see someone who is different from you think about what their day might be like.Think about all of the events of their life leading up to that point. Then think about what part of your day do you want to be."
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
"Have yourself a Merry Christmas"
How can a person do that when they don't celebrate Christmas? You are giving the "gift" of a Merry Christmas to someone who does not observe that holiday.
I don't think it's particularly imperative or offensive, but it's a bit weird.
Likewise I'd feel a bit confused if someone said to me "Have a happy Ramadan"
Then you're a hypocrite for taking the garb of a religious festival in vain.
Actually I think most of the garb is Pagan like the decorated tree, the yule log, feasts, parties, wine, etc. Perhaps the gift giving has some biblical roots, and although I've been known to gift some gold, not too much incense or myrrh. Mostly toy trucks, dolls and stuffed animals.
Fine. We should rename all holidays as Generic Holiday #1, #2, #3, etc. they have names for reasons.
If you have twins, do you put on their cake: Happy Birthday, Twins.
Maybe, it's possible. And you'll probably still refer to them as "the twins" in casual conversation. And if you want one, but you aren't sure which one, you might say "one of the twins".
Because it's a collective, general term, which is precisely the point.
And no, we shouldn't rename the holidays to generic names, no one is suggesting that. No one is suggesting in any way downgrading or reducing Christmas, or any other holiday. But when you need to refer to the holidays collectively and inclusively to a person or people of unknown denomination, then "happy holidays" (or similar) is probably the best way to do it. If you want insist on saying "Merry Christmas" to all and sundry, well that's fine too, but being less specific is likely to be a better idea.
No, it's not a better idea; it's the most cretinous, blinkered, inane, foolish, witless idea I can think of!
You disapprove of Happy Christmas and are inclined not to tolerate it, but replace it with a bland, generic meaningless platitude; I disagree.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I don't disapprove of it. I think it's a less appropriate means of addressing someone of unknown faith than "happy holidays", but it's still a relatively nice thing to say to someone.
I not only tolerate it, I approve of it. I just approve of the alternative a bit more, and I don't think it's bland or meaningless - it includes Christmas, Hannukah, Solstice,, New Year and more besides! And if it's a platitude then so is "Merry Christmas", so you can stick that one up your ass and blow.
It doesn't include anything but Christmas, like it or not.
My knowledge of American history is weak. My understanding is that white man forced Red Indians, now called Native Americans, off their land and claimed it, resulting in a tension which still lasts today. Here, boys play cowboys and Indians, and the Indians are generally the baddies.
I presume you're saying that they should get along. Correct me as needed.
That's about right, but nothing the Brits didn’t do all over the world.
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
I'm a person and I accept the customs of the different religions in my community and the communities in which I visit so, again, it clearly exists even though you choose to be intolerant.
"The next time you see someone who is different from you think about what their day might be like.Think about all of the events of their life leading up to that point. Then think about what part of your day do you want to be."
Where do I choose to be intolerant and of what? You're a right one for putting words in mouths.
Where do I choose to be intolerant and of what? You're a right one for putting words in mouths.
A very recent example among many is you just stated that Happy Holidays only refers to Christmas. Can't get any more intolerant, arrogant and elitist than that.
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
"Have yourself a Merry Christmas"
How can a person do that when they don't celebrate Christmas? You are giving the "gift" of a Merry Christmas to someone who does not observe that holiday.
I don't think it's particularly imperative or offensive, but it's a bit weird.
Likewise I'd feel a bit confused if someone said to me "Have a happy Ramadan"
Oh please. I would say 'Happy Christmas!' Hardly telling someone to enjoy my customs.
By that reasoning, when you say 'Good morning' to someone, you're forcing them to have a good morning whether they like it or not. Oh the hardship! The oppression! The intolerance towards those who don't wish to have a good morning imposed on them! Perhaps I should suggest an alternative; maybe:
'It may be a good, neutral or bad morning for you or a combination of all of those, and I don't wish to impose them all on you, but if you would like one or more of those options, then I would like to wish one of them for you. If you don't, then that's fine too, as I wouldn't wish to impose my own wishes onto you. If it isn't morning for you, or you object to the idea of it being the morning because you've been having an all-nighter and your head is pounding like a jackhammer, then you may or may not want me to wish you an afternoon or evening or none of those. Please make your selection now.'
Two words? It's post after post from you about your intolerance of others that don't share your customs.
Intolerance of others? Stop projecting. How does saying Merry Christmas intolerant? If they don't celebrate, fine...Correct me and move on. Not once has anyone complained about Merry Christmas to me.
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As I've stated, I celebrate Christmas and I say Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it. Those that don't I use the appropriate statement, and if I don't know I use the generalize Happy Holidays statement. This is really simple shit and you and Frost's posts sound insane to think this threatens your religion or customs in any way… but, oh yeah, Christians are so persecuted that they can't get anywhere in politics and they are on the verge of extinction. :rolleyes:
Clearly I think people should be allowed to have practice their own religions so you're wrong.
No-one goes around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs. Once again, you're projecting your own insecurity in your own beliefs.
Clearly I think people should be allowed to have practice their own religions so you're wrong.
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
That's about right, but nothing the Brits didn’t do all over the world.
You're joking, right? You inferred all that from two words. Somebody has issues. I never said my religion was persecuted.
Happy Generic Holiday #8!
I'm a person and I accept the customs of the different religions in my community and the communities in which I visit so, again, it clearly exists even though you choose to be intolerant.
"The next time you see someone who is different from you think about what their day might be like.Think about all of the events of their life leading up to that point. Then think about what part of your day do you want to be."
Two words? It's post after post from you about your intolerance of others that don't share your customs.
Hyperbole can be funny, but that isn't, especially after 8 attempts and having zero basis in fact.
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
"Have yourself a Merry Christmas"
How can a person do that when they don't celebrate Christmas? You are giving the "gift" of a Merry Christmas to someone who does not observe that holiday.
I don't think it's particularly imperative or offensive, but it's a bit weird.
Likewise I'd feel a bit confused if someone said to me "Have a happy Ramadan"
And did themselves to the Native Americans when they ruled the Colonies.
Happy Generic Holiday #8!
For the love of Dog, get over it. No one has suggested renaming Christmas.
I believe that would be Ramadan Mubarak, but your point still stands.
Actually I think most of the garb is Pagan like the decorated tree, the yule log, feasts, parties, wine, etc. Perhaps the gift giving has some biblical roots, and although I've been known to gift some gold, not too much incense or myrrh. Mostly toy trucks, dolls and stuffed animals.
Celebrating Mass is a minor difference.
Fine. We should rename all holidays as Generic Holiday #1, #2, #3, etc. they have names for reasons.
If you have twins, do you put on their cake: Happy Birthday, Twins.
Maybe, it's possible. And you'll probably still refer to them as "the twins" in casual conversation. And if you want one, but you aren't sure which one, you might say "one of the twins".
Because it's a collective, general term, which is precisely the point.
And no, we shouldn't rename the holidays to generic names, no one is suggesting that. No one is suggesting in any way downgrading or reducing Christmas, or any other holiday. But when you need to refer to the holidays collectively and inclusively to a person or people of unknown denomination, then "happy holidays" (or similar) is probably the best way to do it. If you want insist on saying "Merry Christmas" to all and sundry, well that's fine too, but being less specific is likely to be a better idea.
No, it's not a better idea; it's the most cretinous, blinkered, inane, foolish, witless idea I can think of!
You disapprove of Happy Christmas and are inclined not to tolerate it, but replace it with a bland, generic meaningless platitude; I disagree.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I don't disapprove of it. I think it's a less appropriate means of addressing someone of unknown faith than "happy holidays", but it's still a relatively nice thing to say to someone.
I not only tolerate it, I approve of it. I just approve of the alternative a bit more, and I don't think it's bland or meaningless - it includes Christmas, Hannukah, Solstice,, New Year and more besides! And if it's a platitude then so is "Merry Christmas", so you can stick that one up your ass and blow.
It doesn't include anything but Christmas, like it or not.
My knowledge of American history is weak. My understanding is that white man forced Red Indians, now called Native Americans, off their land and claimed it, resulting in a tension which still lasts today. Here, boys play cowboys and Indians, and the Indians are generally the baddies.
I presume you're saying that they should get along. Correct me as needed.
That's about right, but nothing the Brits didn’t do all over the world.
Got it. So the Indians got colonised!
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
I'm a person and I accept the customs of the different religions in my community and the communities in which I visit so, again, it clearly exists even though you choose to be intolerant.
"The next time you see someone who is different from you think about what their day might be like.Think about all of the events of their life leading up to that point. Then think about what part of your day do you want to be."
Where do I choose to be intolerant and of what? You're a right one for putting words in mouths.
A very recent example among many is you just stated that Happy Holidays only refers to Christmas. Can't get any more intolerant, arrogant and elitist than that.
No, it's not a better idea; it's the most cretinous, blinkered, inane, foolish, witless idea I can think of!
I guess since you seem to be full of those sorts of ideas then that claim should carry some weight.
If you seriously think that people go around telling everyone else to enjoy their customs, then you're deluded.
"Have yourself a Merry Christmas"
How can a person do that when they don't celebrate Christmas? You are giving the "gift" of a Merry Christmas to someone who does not observe that holiday.
I don't think it's particularly imperative or offensive, but it's a bit weird.
Likewise I'd feel a bit confused if someone said to me "Have a happy Ramadan"
Oh please. I would say 'Happy Christmas!' Hardly telling someone to enjoy my customs.
By that reasoning, when you say 'Good morning' to someone, you're forcing them to have a good morning whether they like it or not. Oh the hardship! The oppression! The intolerance towards those who don't wish to have a good morning imposed on them! Perhaps I should suggest an alternative; maybe:
'It may be a good, neutral or bad morning for you or a combination of all of those, and I don't wish to impose them all on you, but if you would like one or more of those options, then I would like to wish one of them for you. If you don't, then that's fine too, as I wouldn't wish to impose my own wishes onto you. If it isn't morning for you, or you object to the idea of it being the morning because you've been having an all-nighter and your head is pounding like a jackhammer, then you may or may not want me to wish you an afternoon or evening or none of those. Please make your selection now.'
Could go down well, ya think?
Intolerance of others? Stop projecting. How does saying Merry Christmas intolerant? If they don't celebrate, fine...Correct me and move on. Not once has anyone complained about Merry Christmas to me.