wigby wrote: »
No need to apologize in advance. I don't believe you're trolling but I don't agree with all of your assertions either. Why would Apple release a number like 9 people if it were really 25 or 50 or 1000? Even at 1000, that number is pretty insignificant as far as defective phone design or components go. If they were lying about the number, it would come out and do so much more damage than any bendgate nonsense.
That being said, of course there have been more phones bending than the amount of complaints recorded. That has always been the case even with iPhone 5 and 5s. Just ask any Apple store employee about those phones that also bend. You act as if Jony Ive's iPhone 6+ bent in his pocket and he hid it from everyone. Apple's testing facilities bear out the data perfectly. They know how much pressure is required to bend the phone. If you apply just the right amount of pressure to the right area of the phone it will bend. Every single phone has weak areas like this but no one exploits them because there is no money to be made in youtube videos of these and not enough people know or care about any model nearly as much as they do the iPhone.
This happens every single iPhone release and it will be something else next release cycle. Antennagate was arguably much worse (although I never could find a single person that experienced any issues from iPhone 4's antenna) and that didn't lead to a recall. It did lead to a redesign to improve antenna performance so that was a good thing. Could bendgate ever lead to a future redesign? Maybe, but we will never know because the media has blown their load on this story and it's dead. Samsung's got the story on life support but it's going, going, gone.
benjamin frost wrote: »
What's the best designed iPhone to date?
I haven't yet seen the 6 and 6 Plus in the flesh, but otherwise, I'd be inclined to say the original iPhone of 2007.
larrya wrote: »
If I can bend an iPhone 6+ with little effort by exploiting a weak point, we are looking at a substandard design, no matter how much we love Apple and iOS.
malax wrote: »
And this part part is just BS. Show me a video where someone "with little effort" is able to bend any iPhone.
emoeric87 wrote: »
I would rather have an iPhone 6 Plus sharpened into a dagger to cut off all my fingers and toes, at a rate of one per hour, while listening to Michael Bublé in a drunken despair, consoling himself in song on the toilet, in a Carnival Cruise ship run aground in Antarctica, than buy a Samsung phone.
radarthekat wrote: »
I disagree with you on two points. First, you cannot bend an iPhone 6+ with little effort. It takes considerable effort and either knowledge of where it's weakest bending point resides on the phone (which we've all now been educated about via online videos) or some deliberate attempt to ascertain the weakest bending point. This doesn't wualify as normal usage.
Second, let's examine your reference to substandard design on another item that will cost you at least as much as a new iPhone 6+ should you need to repair or replace it after sitting upon it. And that item is your car's front hood. I drive a 2007 Acura TSX. A very nice, near luxury model that is built well. It's front hood is designed to serve several uses. It covers the engine bay, keeping debris out and protecting people from the hot engine, spinning cooling fan blade, electrics, etc. it streamlines the leading edge of the car, ensuring it moves through the air efficiently. And it adds to an esthetically pleasing front facia. If I drive my car to the local fairgrounds, park it there and then I and maybe a girlfriend or friend decide to plop ourselves down on the front hood to watch the fireworks show, I promise you that my late model Acura's hood will bend inward under our weight (I'm only 160lbs, with 105lb girlfriend). If it were a forty year old car? No problem. Back in the seventies we'd sit up on the hoods of our vehicles when parked at the beach or at an outdoor outing with cars pulled up on the grass and people playing volleyball and grilling out at a state park. Today's cars aren't designed with sitting on the hood in mind. Does that imply this is substandard design? Or that your car hood just isn't designed for that purpose. So if you wouldn't sit on your 2014 model car hood out of concern you may leave a bend or indentation, what makes you think your smartphone should be designed to withstand such treatment?
helia wrote: »
I don't understand, why people would sit with such enormous phones on their back pockets?! Wallet is quite different as it is made of leather and is soft, but rigid HUGE phones on back? You are wearing it wrong, don't you?
You haven't even seen one in the flesh, and yet you're one of the biggest supporters and spammers of "bendgate" on this forum. I don't expect you to apologize of course, even though bendgate has proven to be a complete sham. But yeah, keep ragging on an imagined flaw of a phone you have no interest in even seeing or touching, let alone buying. The rest of us, that actually happily own the device (and the 20,000,000 or so others) and use it every day, know that this FUD is bullshit.
Only in delusional fantasies is the purposeful bending of an ultra thin phone, caused by bending with enough pressure to drain the blood out of your fingers (as evidenced in all the videos) considered a "flaw".
larrya wrote: »
First, I truly hope you are right about the effort needed to bend the thing. Please remember that I said "if" it is easy to bend.
Second, I have an Acura TSX, too, and it might entertain you to know I dented the hood the first day I had it. I have a shelf above my side of the garage where I store, among other things, plastic containers for mixing antifreeze. Well, I thought, I'd better move this one container so as not to fall on the car. And as I attempted to grab it, it fell onto the hood and created a small dent. But, I think your analogy is flawed unless you are asserting that the latest phones should not be stored in one's pockets like the old ones were.
reiszrie wrote: »
1. the guy was simply sitting on the phone, the phone wasn't in his back pocket so naturally it doesn't bend.
jonl wrote: »
FWIW, I've had a 5th gen iPod Touch for the last two years. It's 6.1 mm thick vs 6.9 for the iPhone 6 and 7.1 for the 6 Plus, so it is substantially thinner than both new phones. It was flat when I bought it, and it is still flat. I would be surprised if I couldn't bend it, and that was the obvious thought the first time I held it. The very first time I put it in a pants pocket, I noticed it could rotate or ride up in certain ways when sitting that not only put obvious stress on the device, they were uncomfortable for me. So, I made sure it didn't do those things when carrying it in a pocket. Potential problem avoided. That said, as with the iPhone 5 and now the 6, there has been no shortage of people claiming their Touches "spontaneously bent" when carried in a pocket or purse. The reality is, it is a rare problem, and within that universe of rare events, it is rarer still for it to be "spontaneous", if it's ever happened at all.
larrya wrote: »
I'm half drunk, so ...
It will be filed away in the collective troll memory, to be used again whenever cherry-picked examples are needed to support a concern troll argument. Like iPhone 4 antenna-gate and iPhone 5 scuff-gate.
The pace at which they've attempted to capitalise on this schadenfreude reeks of desperation. I have to assume this is a concocted situation because Samsung et al are terrified about conceding the large screen advantage. I guarantee you there were crisis talks analysing ways Android OEMs could spike the release of Apple’s new baby. They can’t afford to stop using plastic and they don’t have the engineering prowess to match the features/design of the iPhone 6 at this thickness; why not play up the durability angle?
Apple should run an ad showing how everything fits together so well. End the ad with "no gap here".