Piling on too. My assistant bought a 5c. She had been wanting an iPhone for a few years. It wasn't until the 5c that she finally thought she could afford it.
Not to mention people loved the colors. Adults, I mainly saw with white, but teens almost always had a colored one. Still see a lot of 5C's too, and after replacing the screen on one I like the design of it.
Wow. Such stupid controversy over a trivial accessory. For god's sake, it's an optional stylus. All I can figure is that the rabid anti-stylus, "but Steve said blah blah.." types are really trying hard to imply that Apple is being hypocritical, but they don't have the guts to come right out and say it.
And if Apple is, so frickin' what!?
How can an entire company be hypocritical especially since the person quoted no longer runs the company, nor alive? I just find it laughable how many different interpretations a quote can get. It wasn't a parable, it was pretty straight forward.
Since he's no longer here to explain what he meant, and didn't mean everything is just a guess. When there's multiple different "what he meant" then one is left with no choice but to take the quote at face value, and let it speak for itself.
I feel I can say with absolute certainty that Steve Jobs did not believe that the finger was the best "instrument" for all actions that had long sense been refined and/or perfected using highly specific tools, like the paintbrush.
Do you want to go on record believing that Steve Jobs, having to sign his name to something with a pen, thought, "This would be so much better if I could dip my phalange in ink and make a thick, illegible mark instead."
Wow. Such stupid controversy over a trivial accessory. For god's sake, it's an optional stylus. All I can figure is that the rabid anti-stylus, "but Steve said blah blah.." types are really trying hard to imply that Apple is being hypocritical, but they don't have the guts to come right out and say it.
And if Apple is, so frickin' what!?
How can an entire company be hypocritical especially since the person quoted no longer runs the company, nor alive?
Um.... That's the point. Half the posts in this thread are moronic. brlawyer's posts are Exhibit A.
I feel I can say with absolute certainty that Steve Jobs did not believe that the finger was the best "instrument" for all actions that had long sense been refined and/or perfected using highly specific tools, like the paintbrush.
Do you want to go on record believing that Steve Jobs, having to sign his name to something with a pen, thought, "This would be so much better if I could dip my phalange in ink and make a thick, illegible mark instead."
Well, yeah, the iPad mini is overdue for retirement, given that the iPad mini 2 and 3 are both available. It makes sense for Apple to focus their product line a bit, retire the original mini, and drop prices on the 2 and 3, which would be in line with their earlier product line actions. I'm not seeing a "failed" product there, just expected progression.
The iPhone 5C is also due for replacement in mid to late 2015, since it will be 2 years old by that point, so the rumors of its retirement make sense. Presumably it will be replaced by a new model with similar internals to the iPhone 6 but the standard form factor of the iPhone 5c and 5s, and probably an aggressive price. Again, hardly "failed" in any sense.
The Apple Watch is a "failure in the making"? Got any sales numbers to back that up? No? Oh, of course you don't, because it isn't even available yet and you are making stuff up.
As for the stylus, it's a rumor. People have been predicting Apple styli since the iPad was first announced. Yawn. Ooooh, this rumor is from a fairly reputable source? Yawn.
Overall, your post sounds pretty trollish to me. Perhaps that's why Tim Cook is running the most successful company on the planet, and you're some random voice ranting on internet boards.
Let me be clear again, no matter how much folks wish to deny the obvious:
- the iPad mini is GOING TO BE discontinued after just a short stroll around the market;
- the iPhone 5C is GOING TO BE discontinued as well;
- the Apple Watch WILL FAIL;
- an iPad with a stylus is pathetic.
In case of doubt, go check the Macs IIvx and IIvi - they were also great successes. And no, this is no trolling - just a reality check from a guy who has converted more than 25 people to Macs over the last five years.
Indeed.
Sometimes, the truth is in front of our noses, yet we miss it.
As a shareholder, it's in my interests for the share price to rise, so if the Apple Watch was a huge hit, I would only benefit. Alas, it will be Apple's Glass. The best one can say is that, at least, Apple can afford for it to fail.
Enough negativity. Here's to Apple's next triumph, whenever it may be.
Sometimes, the truth is in front of our noses, yet we miss it.
As a shareholder, it's in my interests for the share price to rise, so if the Apple Watch was a huge hit, I would only benefit. Alas, it will be Apple's Glass. The best one can say is that, at least, Apple can afford for it to fail.
Enough negativity. Here's to Apple's next triumph, whenever it may be.
A lot of whether Apple Watch will succeed or fail is not dependent upon Apple but upon how much (or little) consumers gravitate towards wearables or smart watches.
A lot of whether Apple Watch will succeed or fail is not dependent upon Apple but upon how much (or little) consumers gravitate towards wearables or smart watches.
Wow. Such stupid controversy over a trivial accessory. For god's sake, it's an optional stylus. All I can figure is that the rabid anti-stylus, "but Steve said blah blah.." types are really trying hard to imply that Apple is being hypocritical, but they don't have the guts to come right out and say it.
And if Apple is, so frickin' what!?
The hysteria is amazing all right.
An analyst suggests Apple will have an optional accessory and all hell breaks loose. Apple is doomed.
If you can't see the difference between Apple's reinvention of the Mini as the Nano as opposed to the launch of the iPad mini as a me-too product, it's useless to continue with this discussion...
As for "logic", it's always funny to see such ad hominem nonsense being blabbed here - when I said similar things about the iPad mini and the 5C a while ago (unoriginal devices that would soon go the way of the Dodo), most of you laughed - who's laughing now?
I thought the 5C should have been cheaper. But it served it's purpose and who knows what they will do this year. The tablet market has been disappointing for a while but I think it will motor along but not make huge strides beyond it's market now unless someone fixes copy and paste.
Apple Pay will be a success. And open new revenue streams and apps. I bet the new Beats products will be big. And they must be doing something with prime sense.
Lots more arrows in the quiver.
Oh and I think if wearables work at all the Apple watch wil dominate.
Or the iPad Newton. Which preceded the palm pilot.
But the Palm Pilot was wildly successful, the Newton, not so much. Remember, the Newton 1.x software was awful and the device was considered extremely overpriced at the time. The Palm Pilot was popular, but the Newton got axed. So the more commonly known stylus device was the Palm.
If you're saying Jobs was vehemently opposed to any non-finger-based interaction by an accessory for specific needs in the iPad when a digitizer or other technologies became viable then, yes, you are.
In case of doubt, go check the Macs IIvx and IIvi - they were also great successes. And no, this is no trolling - just a reality check from a guy who has converted more than 25 people to Macs over the last five years.
You are so misinformed. You were only able to convert 25 people to Macs in the last five years? Wow, 5 people per year. If they believe your crap about the Mac IIvx and IIvi being great successes, they are complete idiots. The Mac IIvx/vi was NOT successful, in fact, they were quickly replaced four months after their initial release. The IIvx was crippled when Spindler promised a CD-ROM equipped Mac. Its 32-MHz 68030 was slower than the 25-MHz IIci because the data bus was only 16-MHz instead of 32 MHz. The serial port was sub-standard and caused problems, and the memory limit was 68 MB compared to the IIci's 128 MB limit. The biggest joke was that the IIvi was a "slower" version of the IIvx, but the IIvx was already slower than the older IIci. The IIvx was replaced four months later by the Centris 650 which was 3-5x faster with it's 68040 CPU, and cost less than the IIvx. People who made the mistake of buying the crippled IIvx were pretty pissed when Apple slashed the price from $2949 to $1899, overnight, at the release of the Centris 650. People who got burned by the IIvx were known as getting "IIvx-ed". I know first hand, because I sold both the IIvx and Centris 650 back in my college days. The IIvx buyers were pissed when the Centris rolled out four months later, and was a far superior machine.
Comments
All I'm saying is that I think it's too soon for Apple to cannibalize the iPad mini.
You forgot to stamp your little feet.
Not to mention people loved the colors. Adults, I mainly saw with white, but teens almost always had a colored one. Still see a lot of 5C's too, and after replacing the screen on one I like the design of it.
How can an entire company be hypocritical especially since the person quoted no longer runs the company, nor alive? I just find it laughable how many different interpretations a quote can get. It wasn't a parable, it was pretty straight forward.
I feel I can say with absolute certainty that Steve Jobs did not believe that the finger was the best "instrument" for all actions that had long sense been refined and/or perfected using highly specific tools, like the paintbrush.
Do you want to go on record believing that Steve Jobs, having to sign his name to something with a pen, thought, "This would be so much better if I could dip my phalange in ink and make a thick, illegible mark instead."
Um.... That's the point. Half the posts in this thread are moronic. brlawyer's posts are Exhibit A.
We're not discussing 'all' actions.
I guess mine are Exhibit B
I've made my bed.
Indeed.
Sometimes, the truth is in front of our noses, yet we miss it.
As a shareholder, it's in my interests for the share price to rise, so if the Apple Watch was a huge hit, I would only benefit. Alas, it will be Apple's Glass. The best one can say is that, at least, Apple can afford for it to fail.
Enough negativity. Here's to Apple's next triumph, whenever it may be.
No! ????
Indeed.
Sometimes, the truth is in front of our noses, yet we miss it.
As a shareholder, it's in my interests for the share price to rise, so if the Apple Watch was a huge hit, I would only benefit. Alas, it will be Apple's Glass. The best one can say is that, at least, Apple can afford for it to fail.
Enough negativity. Here's to Apple's next triumph, whenever it may be.
A lot of whether Apple Watch will succeed or fail is not dependent upon Apple but upon how much (or little) consumers gravitate towards wearables or smart watches.
Wow what an epiphany.
The hysteria is amazing all right.
An analyst suggests Apple will have an optional accessory and all hell breaks loose. Apple is doomed.
They can call it the iPad Palm Pilot.
I thought the 5C should have been cheaper. But it served it's purpose and who knows what they will do this year. The tablet market has been disappointing for a while but I think it will motor along but not make huge strides beyond it's market now unless someone fixes copy and paste.
Apple Pay will be a success. And open new revenue streams and apps. I bet the new Beats products will be big. And they must be doing something with prime sense.
Lots more arrows in the quiver.
Oh and I think if wearables work at all the Apple watch wil dominate.
Or the iPad Newton. Which preceded the palm pilot.
Or the iPad Newton. Which preceded the palm pilot.
But the Palm Pilot was wildly successful, the Newton, not so much. Remember, the Newton 1.x software was awful and the device was considered extremely overpriced at the time. The Palm Pilot was popular, but the Newton got axed. So the more commonly known stylus device was the Palm.
If you're saying Jobs was vehemently opposed to any non-finger-based interaction by an accessory for specific needs in the iPad when a digitizer or other technologies became viable then, yes, you are.
In case of doubt, go check the Macs IIvx and IIvi - they were also great successes. And no, this is no trolling - just a reality check from a guy who has converted more than 25 people to Macs over the last five years.
You are so misinformed. You were only able to convert 25 people to Macs in the last five years? Wow, 5 people per year. If they believe your crap about the Mac IIvx and IIvi being great successes, they are complete idiots. The Mac IIvx/vi was NOT successful, in fact, they were quickly replaced four months after their initial release. The IIvx was crippled when Spindler promised a CD-ROM equipped Mac. Its 32-MHz 68030 was slower than the 25-MHz IIci because the data bus was only 16-MHz instead of 32 MHz. The serial port was sub-standard and caused problems, and the memory limit was 68 MB compared to the IIci's 128 MB limit. The biggest joke was that the IIvi was a "slower" version of the IIvx, but the IIvx was already slower than the older IIci. The IIvx was replaced four months later by the Centris 650 which was 3-5x faster with it's 68040 CPU, and cost less than the IIvx. People who made the mistake of buying the crippled IIvx were pretty pissed when Apple slashed the price from $2949 to $1899, overnight, at the release of the Centris 650. People who got burned by the IIvx were known as getting "IIvx-ed". I know first hand, because I sold both the IIvx and Centris 650 back in my college days. The IIvx buyers were pissed when the Centris rolled out four months later, and was a far superior machine.