Well, attending the show two years ago, I decided to watch the webcast of the new products - which was choppy (evne on my cable) and cut out a bit. Then, when I went to the show, I found out that I could have watched the whole thing on Apples big screen at their booth. And I'd get to see the new products as he announced them (with the taking down of the paper and cloth)
So the next year (last year), I went to the show and was pissed off with everyone else when they wouldn't let us in. We could see all the people who were exhibitors watching the big screen (through the cracks in the red doors), but we couldn't see it. Then, about 50 minutes before the speech ended they let us in.
I wish I could have seen that on the webcast.
Andrew
Oh yeah - I'd expect something bigger...or just that S.J. just wanted more time, and they suggested that if he took 2.5 hours on the first day of the show, people would be angry cause that's less time the attendies would get for confrences and to walk the floor.
<strong>before a 340 pound foul smelling clod not so unceremoniusly moved them out of the way and gets Cheetos sludge all over the keyboard..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey you know that guy too? He seems to show up at every MW I've been able to attend and the *$%@ always has on the same stupid tee-shirt too!
<strong>All I'm saying is that you can't conclude that a particular product will or will not be released based on the date of the keynote...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know why not BtC?! Everyone else seems to have no problems doing it!
Here is a more accurate translation from the French courtesy me:
Here is what our anonymous informant has just sent us a few minutes ago. Apple would thus have decided to announce two new Powerbooks, that would differ only through the inclusion of a combo CDRW-DVD drive in place of the current DVD drive. It would hence have taken the Apple a few weeks to succeed in producing a "slot-in" model that fits in the TiBook specific design. Nothing too exciting, but if confirmed it is still quite a pleasant enhancement. Visibly, this update should be imminent... Eventually :-)
So the next year (last year), I went to the show and was pissed off with everyone else when they wouldn't let us in. We could see all the people who were exhibitors watching the big screen (through the cracks in the red doors), but we couldn't see it. Then, about 50 minutes before the speech ended they let us in.
Andrew</strong><hr></blockquote>
At MacWorld NY in July of this year they had a seperate room downstairs where you could watch the Keynote for free with only a Hall pass. I know because thats exactly what I did. They didnt' announce it, they didn't post signs, it was just down there on 2 big screens. I saw an open auditorium and heard the speech through the doors. There was a security guard standing there and he looked at my badge and said "don't be shy, come right in". There were even plenty of open seats.
So either he was colorblind, very generous, or you really could watch it for free. I mean hell, you could watch it at Apple's Marketcenter for free, so why not at the Expo itself?
The moving of the keynote has no significance, except for the fact that now I'll be on vacation when the webcast is on, so I can watch my first keynote at home.
2.5 hours doesn't mean much really. You can read it two ways:
Yeah but then Steve-O wouldn't be "hyping" it by saying they want it to be the most exciting expo to date. Remember how they toned things down after the great letdown of 2001 that was MWNY? They even announced there would be no new hardware for the event after that. Not sure if "that" was Seybold but I do remember people speculating that "new" didn't mean "revised" products could be announced. Anyway, I think its safe to assume this is going to be a big Macworld.
<strong>From the email from Apple announcing the date change:
"This is the first time in the 18 year history of Macworld Conference & Expo that
the Keynote will take place the day before the exhibit floor opens, and Apple
and IDG World Expo promises it will be well worth attending."
this is going to be big, Big, BIG!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry, BtC and other pessimists. There really will be a lot of new stuff at MWSF. I agree that we should not get our hopes too set on any specific hardware, but it obvious that there will be a bonanza this time around.
Apple could have given a bland announcement to downplay this keynote move, such as "Due to scheduling conflicts [i.e. Steve's jet is scheduled for a tune-up on Tuesday... ], we have been forced to move the keynote speech up a day," or something to that effect - killing any chance of reading something into it. Instead they deliberately made the point that this is THE FIRST TIME IN ITS 18-YEAR HISTORY that they're doing it and bragging that it will be something special.
If they *don't* have lots of new stuff, I think we will can be justifiably angry at this point. Apple is deliberately pouring gasoline onto the rumor fires with this announcement. I'm not going to speculate on precisely what I think they may have coming, but Apple has made it clear it will be a big.
I recall a quote of someone overhearing Jobs as he left the stage at MWNY last July to the effect of, "that really stunk - we should have had the good stuff ready...". I'm not sure what "the good stuff" was that he was referring to, but I don't think he is going to have two "downers" in a row. Particularly not after the wording of this keynote announcement.
So, let's let some visions of sugar-plums and G5 chips dance in our heads. Let's drop the "If there's no 2.8 GHz G5 and a 1.4 GHz G4 iMac I'm changing to Windows!" type nonsense (which makes us sound like Angelica of Rugrats fame). We should instead look at January 7 as a second Christmas, and see what kind of goodies Santa Jobs brings us. It should be a quite a load.
I'm not really that pessimitic; I just think with people assuming every product will magically hit the 1GHz mark will be disappointed. All signs do point to an exciting expo...
Or of course beleive it or not but Apple and IDG need to make sure that people show up for the keynote even though the floor isn't open.
Let me pose this to you: Do you really think that the person that writes those has any idea whatsoever what will be announced. Jobs thought that the iMacs at MWNY were the "coolest ever..."
I am just trying to set myself up to be excited rather than disapointed like MWNY. Trying not to get my hopes too high! :cool:
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as you approach the event horizon, time appears to slow down....
Check you red shift! it's going to be a big one
So the next year (last year), I went to the show and was pissed off with everyone else when they wouldn't let us in. We could see all the people who were exhibitors watching the big screen (through the cracks in the red doors), but we couldn't see it. Then, about 50 minutes before the speech ended they let us in.
I wish I could have seen that on the webcast.
Andrew
Oh yeah - I'd expect something bigger...or just that S.J. just wanted more time, and they suggested that if he took 2.5 hours on the first day of the show, people would be angry cause that's less time the attendies would get for confrences and to walk the floor.
Andrew
<strong>Point is, that we know no more or no less than before the keynote was moved. So keep your pants on.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not true BtC...
We now know the keynote is hour longer than it was set for and yes. that along will keep people talking things up (till the very last minute).
Dave
All I'm saying is that you can't conclude that a particular product will or will not be released based on the date of the keynote...
I'm cautiously optimistic for some real speed improvements at this point.
<strong>before a 340 pound foul smelling clod not so unceremoniusly moved them out of the way and gets Cheetos sludge all over the keyboard..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey you know that guy too? He seems to show up at every MW I've been able to attend and the *$%@ always has on the same stupid tee-shirt too!
D
<strong>All I'm saying is that you can't conclude that a particular product will or will not be released based on the date of the keynote...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know why not BtC?! Everyone else seems to have no problems doing it!
D
Here is what our anonymous informant has just sent us a few minutes ago. Apple would thus have decided to announce two new Powerbooks, that would differ only through the inclusion of a combo CDRW-DVD drive in place of the current DVD drive. It would hence have taken the Apple a few weeks to succeed in producing a "slot-in" model that fits in the TiBook specific design. Nothing too exciting, but if confirmed it is still quite a pleasant enhancement. Visibly, this update should be imminent... Eventually :-)
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I don't know why not BtC?! Everyone else seems to have no problems doing it!
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True.
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So the next year (last year), I went to the show and was pissed off with everyone else when they wouldn't let us in. We could see all the people who were exhibitors watching the big screen (through the cracks in the red doors), but we couldn't see it. Then, about 50 minutes before the speech ended they let us in.
Andrew</strong><hr></blockquote>
At MacWorld NY in July of this year they had a seperate room downstairs where you could watch the Keynote for free with only a Hall pass. I know because thats exactly what I did. They didnt' announce it, they didn't post signs, it was just down there on 2 big screens. I saw an open auditorium and heard the speech through the doors. There was a security guard standing there and he looked at my badge and said "don't be shy, come right in". There were even plenty of open seats.
So either he was colorblind, very generous, or you really could watch it for free. I mean hell, you could watch it at Apple's Marketcenter for free, so why not at the Expo itself?
I guess they don't do this at the Moscone Center?
2.5 hours doesn't mean much really. You can read it two ways:
A. More cooler hardware
B. Less cooler hardware, more excuses
Revolution 2 everybody.
<strong>
Sadly, this designation is already held by Dec, 7 1941 and Sept. 11 2001.
Sorry for the downer, but we need a little more perspective.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>From the email from Apple announcing the date change:
"This is the first time in the 18 year history of Macworld Conference & Expo that
the Keynote will take place the day before the exhibit floor opens, and Apple
and IDG World Expo promises it will be well worth attending."
this is going to be big, Big, BIG!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry, BtC and other pessimists. There really will be a lot of new stuff at MWSF. I agree that we should not get our hopes too set on any specific hardware, but it obvious that there will be a bonanza this time around.
Apple could have given a bland announcement to downplay this keynote move, such as "Due to scheduling conflicts [i.e. Steve's jet is scheduled for a tune-up on Tuesday...
If they *don't* have lots of new stuff, I think we will can be justifiably angry at this point. Apple is deliberately pouring gasoline onto the rumor fires with this announcement. I'm not going to speculate on precisely what I think they may have coming, but Apple has made it clear it will be a big.
I recall a quote of someone overhearing Jobs as he left the stage at MWNY last July to the effect of, "that really stunk - we should have had the good stuff ready...". I'm not sure what "the good stuff" was that he was referring to, but I don't think he is going to have two "downers" in a row. Particularly not after the wording of this keynote announcement.
So, let's let some visions of sugar-plums and G5 chips dance in our heads. Let's drop the "If there's no 2.8 GHz G5 and a 1.4 GHz G4 iMac I'm changing to Windows!" type nonsense (which makes us sound like Angelica of Rugrats fame). We should instead look at January 7 as a second Christmas, and see what kind of goodies Santa Jobs brings us. It should be a quite a load.
MWNY: Products released late July, usually available in September. In time for education market but stale by holidays.
MWSF: Products announced just after Holiday rush.
Push the expos back a month for god's sake!
Let me pose this to you: Do you really think that the person that writes those has any idea whatsoever what will be announced. Jobs thought that the iMacs at MWNY were the "coolest ever..."
I am just trying to set myself up to be excited rather than disapointed like MWNY. Trying not to get my hopes too high! :cool:
I can not wait now! If Apple was trying to get people exited they have sucseded!! I am going to be there and the extra hour is totaly ok buy me!!
I just hope Apple lets us play with the products that day! I will not be able to sleep with out touching the new iMac!
I guess Steve better have a few bottles of water on stage!