Apple updates 13- and 15-inch MacBook Pros with new Intel chips, enhanced butterfly keyboa...

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Apple has announced a new crop of MacBook Pro models with Intel's newest 8th and 9th generation Core processors and is addressing concerns with its ultra slim butterfly keyboards with new enhancements to substantially reduce issues users may experience with stuck or unresponsive keys.


The new eight-core 15-inch MacBook Pro powerhouse

Apple's 15-inch MacBook Pro was updated twice in 2018, with one update just after the 2018 World Wide Developer's conference, and another in November with Vega graphics. Now, at the same price points as the summer update, Apple's top tier MacBook Pro is gaining Intel's 9th Generation 45-Watt Core i7 CPUs.






The $2399 model is jumping 400MHz to a 6-core i7-9750 CPU with Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz, while the $2799 model now uses an 8-core i9-9980 CPU at 4.8GHz.

There will also be a custom configuration 15-inch MacBook Pro option to use Intel's 8-core i9, which features a Turbo Boost up to 5GHz. The new chips, which Intel just announced a few weeks ago, are designed to deliver "desktop caliber performance on the go" in the chipmaker's marketing, which describes the new processors as intended for "Musclebooks" and "content creation" machines.

Apple's latest 15-inch Retina Display MacBook Pros continue to feature 220ppi 2880 by 1800 screens with P3 Wide Color Gamut, 500-nits of brightness, and the company's True Tone display technology. They are equipped with Radeon Pro 560X or Vega 20 graphics with up to 4GB of HBM2 memory; 16 or 32GB of DDR4 RAM; and 512GB or 1, 2, or 4TB SSD storage options.

Carried forward from the previous model are four Thunderbolt 3 ports that support USB-C connectivity of all types, and four 4K or two 5K external displays via DisplayPort 1.4.

The new quad-core 13-inch MacBook Pro mobile creation machine

The 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar was also last updated last July, but is now getting a similar overhaul commensurate with its more efficient, compact design. The $1799 model now getting a 300MHz jump in CPU speed to use Intel's 8th Generation 15 Watt Core i5-8365 CPU with a Turbo Boost speed of 4.1 GHz.

The custom option for an Intel i7 is also getting upgraded by 300MHz to Intel's Core i7-8665U.

Apple's latest 13-inch Retina Display MacBook Pros continue to feature 227ppi 2560 by 1600 screens with P3 Wide Color Gamut, 500-nits of brightness, and True Tone display technology. They also use Intel's premium-tier Iris Plus integrated graphics with 128 MB eDRAM; offer 8 or 16GB of RAM; and either 256, 512GB, or 1 or 2TB SSD storage options.

Four Thunderbolt 3 ports are also on the 13-inch model. The quartet supports two 4K displays or one 5K external display. The 13-inch MacBook Pro also includes the same T2 chip, Touch Bar, and Touch ID authentication.

As with the 15-inch models, Apple is addressing keyboard concerns with an enhanced design intended to improve its ultra slim butterfly mechanism so as to substantially reduce issues users may experience with unresponsive or double-typing keys.

Both new MacBook Pro lines are available to order through Apple now, and will be in stores later this week.

Continuing technologies

The new MacBook Pros also include Apple's custom T2 chip, which is essentially a variant of the A10 processor used in iOS devices. The 64-bit ARMv8 chip runs its own "bridgeOS" operating system closely related to watchOS.

It drives the graphical Touch Bar input system and Touch ID authentication. The T2 chip also provides a secure enclave for encrypted keys and enables users to lock the system's boot process, and includes an Image Signal Processor for the FaceTime camera and audio use as well as hardware-accelerated disk and media encryption and decryption, and supports "Hey Siri" functionality.

Apart from addressing Pro-users' voracious appetites for processing performance, the newly revamped MacBook Pro models also address keyboard issues that have continued to dog Apple's butterfly keyboard design.

The company has maintained that its butterfly design is used without problem by the vast majority of its users and that its notebooks achieve overall quality levels that are the best it has ever delivered. However, it has worked to continued to improve the design of its ultra slim butterfly mechanism so as to substantially reduce issues users may experience with unresponsive or double-typing keys.

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  • Reply 1 of 120
    k2kwk2kw Posts: 1,725member
    Fourth times the charm.
    1983
  • Reply 2 of 120
    tipootipoo Posts: 1,051member
    The upgrade 13" CPU listed, the i7-8665U, is a quad core, the header lists a hexacore? Is there another upgrade option or should that header be quad core still? 

    Edit: Yes it looks like the 13" is still a quad core


    edited May 21
  • Reply 3 of 120
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,570administrator
    tipoo said:
    The upgrade 13" CPU listed, the i7-8665U, is a quad core, the header lists a hexacore? Is there another upgrade option or should that header be quad core still? 

    Edit: Yes it looks like the 13" is still a quad core


    It is.
  • Reply 4 of 120

    Apple updates 13- and 15-inch MacBook Pros with new Intel chips, enhanced butterfly keyboa...  ← intended or accident?  Either way  :D

    doctwelvectt_zhelijahgronncornchipanantksundaramtyler82
  • Reply 5 of 120
    thttht Posts: 3,209member
    Apart from addressing Pro-users' voracious appetites for processing performance, the newly revamped MacBook Pro models also address keyboard issues that have continued to dog Apple's butterfly keyboard design. 

    The company has maintained that its butterfly design is used without problem by the vast majority of its users and that its notebooks achieve overall quality levels that are the best it has ever delivered. However, it has worked to continued to improve the design of its ultra slim butterfly mechanism so as to substantially reduce issues users may experience with unresponsive or double-typing keys.
    Is AI continuing to track keyboard repairs? Wonder how the 2018 models are fairing in regards to keyboards.

    1st gen butterfly has plastic domes
    2nd gen butterfly has metal domes
    3rd gen butterfly has silicone muffler
    4th gen has “new materials”

    The tolerances on the design look really really tight to me, and the reliability issues could be caused by any number of issues. 

    dysamoria
  • Reply 6 of 120
    pscooter63pscooter63 Posts: 923member
    I wonder if they tweaked the T2 to address this? 

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/02/19/pro-audio-glitch-with-t2-equipped-macs-connected-to-usb-20-connections

    (This delayed my MBP purchase earlier this year:)
    edited May 21
  • Reply 7 of 120
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 1,918member
    Nice lineup! If the KB issues are truly fixed, now is a good time to be in the market for a MBP!
    AI_lias
  • Reply 8 of 120
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,570administrator

    Apple updates 13- and 15-inch MacBook Pros with new Intel chips, enhanced butterfly keyboa...  ← intended or accident?  Either way  :D

    The forum software cuts off long headlines from the main page.
    AppleExposed
  • Reply 9 of 120
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,570administrator
    tht said:
    Apart from addressing Pro-users' voracious appetites for processing performance, the newly revamped MacBook Pro models also address keyboard issues that have continued to dog Apple's butterfly keyboard design. 

    The company has maintained that its butterfly design is used without problem by the vast majority of its users and that its notebooks achieve overall quality levels that are the best it has ever delivered. However, it has worked to continued to improve the design of its ultra slim butterfly mechanism so as to substantially reduce issues users may experience with unresponsive or double-typing keys.
    Is AI continuing to track keyboard repairs? Wonder how the 2018 models are fairing in regards to keyboards.

    1st gen butterfly has plastic domes
    2nd gen butterfly has metal domes
    3rd gen butterfly has silicone muffler
    4th gen has “new materials”

    The tolerances on the design look really really tight to me, and the reliability issues could be caused by any number of issues. 

    We are. The third gen is about the same, perhaps just a hair better, than the second gen.
  • Reply 10 of 120
    You definitely need to go with the i9-9980hk to trump the former top dog i9-8950hk and then we're looking at 2.4 x 16 vs 2.9 x 12. It will be interesting if the thermals are still in check (I assume they will be), as on the desktop the 9900 is a heat monster. I'm not expecting a beefier HSF, but it would be a pleasant surprise.

    Continuing keyboard refinements are always welcomed.

    You linked to the i7-9750HF for the i7 variant. That CPU doesn't have onboard Intel graphics. Did you mean to link to the i7-9750H?





  • Reply 11 of 120
    Eric_WVGGEric_WVGG Posts: 603member
    I wonder if they tweaked the T2 to address this? 

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/02/19/pro-audio-glitch-with-t2-equipped-macs-connected-to-usb-20-connections

    (This delayed my MBP purchase earlier this year:)
    apparently yes: https://www.forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?id=26881&p=6

    I've also heard that this can be alleviated if your audio interface has its own power supply, instead of being powered from the USB-C jack, unsure
    edited May 21
  • Reply 12 of 120
    frantisekfrantisek Posts: 464member
    Does it means Apple can use now low power DDR4 memory?
  • Reply 13 of 120
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,570administrator
    frantisek said:
    Does it means Apple can use now low power DDR4 memory?
    In theory, but it doesn't.
    dysamoriafrantisek
  • Reply 14 of 120
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 1,958member
    WiFi 6(801.11ax) could have been added since WiFi 6 chip already available from several manufacturers. May be in coming Fall Macbook Pro upgrade when Intel ICE 10nm processors,WiFi 6,LPDDR4,Gen 11 graphics all sips into MAC.
    edited May 21
  • Reply 15 of 120
    jeffharrisjeffharris Posts: 548member
    NICE!!!
    Just as my late 2012 15" MacBook Pro Retina is struggling with OS X 10.13!
    It just crashed for some mysterious reason. I was out of my office for 20 minutes, came back to the grey screen of death. Very reassuring.

    I'd LOVE the i9 octo-core, but wonder if it has thermal issues similar to the 2018.
    I guess I'll wait for some hands-on reviews before biting the bullet.
  • Reply 16 of 120
    arizrngrarizrngr Posts: 2member
    Is APPLE going to provide a service to upgrade 2018 MACBOOK PRO's purchased prior to this announcement?
  • Reply 17 of 120
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 4,612member
    It's about darn time Apple starts putting in serious multi-core CPU's.  I'm quite happy with my 2017 quad-core i7 MBP, but this new 8-core model is definitely mouth-watering.

    I'm looking forward to reading the reviews, particularly in the heat department.

    I'd like to see the same attention placed to the iMac.  Would love to see a 12-core i9 iMac and most likely would buy one if that were the case!
  • Reply 18 of 120
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 7,570member
    tht said:
    Apart from addressing Pro-users' voracious appetites for processing performance, the newly revamped MacBook Pro models also address keyboard issues that have continued to dog Apple's butterfly keyboard design. 

    The company has maintained that its butterfly design is used without problem by the vast majority of its users and that its notebooks achieve overall quality levels that are the best it has ever delivered. However, it has worked to continued to improve the design of its ultra slim butterfly mechanism so as to substantially reduce issues users may experience with unresponsive or double-typing keys.
    Is AI continuing to track keyboard repairs? Wonder how the 2018 models are fairing in regards to keyboards.

    1st gen butterfly has plastic domes
    2nd gen butterfly has metal domes
    3rd gen butterfly has silicone muffler
    4th gen has “new materials”

    The tolerances on the design look really really tight to me, and the reliability issues could be caused by any number of issues. 

    We are. The third gen is about the same, perhaps just a hair better, than the second gen.
    What are the frequency numbers again? 
  • Reply 19 of 120
    indiekidukindiekiduk Posts: 291member
    They keyboard fix is probably in software. 
  • Reply 20 of 120
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,650member
    Is hyperthreading still a thing?

    Does the 8 core model have 16 virtual cores?
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