Remember Powerpage announced shortly after the new iBooks were released that new PowerBooks would come out on May 19th. That is tomorrow. And there is no sign that they'll be right. Another rumor site down the crapper.
Remember Powerpage announced shortly after the new iBooks were released that new PowerBooks would come out on May 19th. That is tomorrow. And there is no sign that they'll be right. Another rumor site down the crapper.
wtf???!!!!
signs? \
i dont need signs...i mean....if i had a can of coke next to me now....THAT would be a sign...ok?!
Well I have the money to buy the top end 15" PowerBook when it comes out. Now if it would only come out soon! What would be a good price to sell my iMac 800 for? I was thinking USD999 or around there... I'll probably sell it cause I don't need two comps.
Well no one else has posted on this thread all day, so I thought I would see if I could get it started again.
What would you guys be happy with as the next PowerBook update, assuming the 970 is not ready for the PowerBooks yet?
As many of you know I am looking to buy one when they update. I would be quite content with the following:
15.4" good resolution
1.2Ghz G4
Radeon 9600 mobility GPU
167mhz bus (maybe 200mhz? if 7457 is ready)
512MB DDR333
1MB L3 cache
light up keyboard
airport extreme
firewire 800
$2800
I would buy a Powerbook with these specs tomorrow if it came out.
Also I have been wondering if the G4 may not be a better CPU for the PowerBooks than the 970. Lets compare a 1.4ghz 970 to a 1.4ghz 7457 in terms of Powerbook usefulness. The 970 will be faster, but the 7457 will use less power and produce less heat. I guess what I'm asking is would one really want a 970 laptop that one could not watch a whole movie with a single charge on? I for one am not sure if the extra power is worth the sacrifice running time. The 5 hour battery life of current PowerBooks is already highly overstated. However, I was able to watch a whole movie on my old 400mhz g4 PowerBook, and I loved being able to so this. I found that I could go a whole day without plugging it in, as long I put it to sleep whenever I wasn't using it.
I too am ready to pop for a 15 inch PB. I will get it regardless of the CPU, but I would like the 970.
To your list I would add Al skin, options for combo-drive and superdrive, at least one PC-card slot, a couple of USB 1.0 ports, headphone connector (maybe even audio-in though I am happy using iMic for that).
DVD playback is more related to the graphics chip than the CPU. I think the graphics chip does the heavy lifting of decoding the stream and putting video on the display.
I recall reading that the 970 clocked at 1.2GHz used about 12 watts, comparable to the draw of a G4. There is also the possibility that IBM would select processors that used less power and market them to Apple as low power versions useful for laptops. They already select for speed, why not power as well?
Another unknown for the 970 is how it can manage power. The G3 Sahara has the ability to shut down unused systems to conserve power. Can the 970 do the same? Can it go to sleep briefly when there is no work to do?
Earlier I thought I would get a small PB for travelling and rely on my tower and cinema display when at home. However, after the 12 inch PB came out I was disappointed that it was not lighter. I was hoping for something under three pounds. Checking xbench I discovered that the 1Ghz PB was already much faster than my 867MHz tower. The new one will be faster and it will have the connector to drive my cinema display plus a bunch of other features and it will weight in under six pounds so I changed my mind and decided in favor of the 15 inch PB. Now I have the decision and the cash I just need Apple to ship it.
I noticed an interesting thing today, was reading the local paper and out popped an Apple pamphlet detailing their products and software. It included every product they sold except for... yep you guessed it, the 15" PowerBook.
This means one of two things:
1) Apple are not planning to update the 15" PowerBook at all and may not continue to sell it
2) The 15" PowerBook is going to be updated really, really soon
The problem is, I really can't see either of these things happening... but why would Apple not bother to include it in the pamphlet?
PowerPage has a report that the new 15 inch PBs are ready to ship, they are just waiting for the current Ti Book stocks to sell out. If this is correct then that would seem to indicate that these are G4 based.
O'Grady cannot be right. If you do a custom order on a 15-inch PowerBook, you get a ship time of 1-3 days. Titaniums must still be coming off the assembly line.
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Originally posted by DHagan4755
Remember Powerpage announced shortly after the new iBooks were released that new PowerBooks would come out on May 19th. That is tomorrow. And there is no sign that they'll be right. Another rumor site down the crapper.
wtf???!!!!
signs?
i dont need signs...i mean....if i had a can of coke next to me now....THAT would be a sign...ok?!
What would you guys be happy with as the next PowerBook update, assuming the 970 is not ready for the PowerBooks yet?
As many of you know I am looking to buy one when they update. I would be quite content with the following:
15.4" good resolution
1.2Ghz G4
Radeon 9600 mobility GPU
167mhz bus (maybe 200mhz? if 7457 is ready)
512MB DDR333
1MB L3 cache
light up keyboard
airport extreme
firewire 800
$2800
I would buy a Powerbook with these specs tomorrow if it came out.
Also I have been wondering if the G4 may not be a better CPU for the PowerBooks than the 970. Lets compare a 1.4ghz 970 to a 1.4ghz 7457 in terms of Powerbook usefulness. The 970 will be faster, but the 7457 will use less power and produce less heat. I guess what I'm asking is would one really want a 970 laptop that one could not watch a whole movie with a single charge on? I for one am not sure if the extra power is worth the sacrifice running time. The 5 hour battery life of current PowerBooks is already highly overstated. However, I was able to watch a whole movie on my old 400mhz g4 PowerBook, and I loved being able to so this. I found that I could go a whole day without plugging it in, as long I put it to sleep whenever I wasn't using it.
To your list I would add Al skin, options for combo-drive and superdrive, at least one PC-card slot, a couple of USB 1.0 ports, headphone connector (maybe even audio-in though I am happy using iMic for that).
DVD playback is more related to the graphics chip than the CPU. I think the graphics chip does the heavy lifting of decoding the stream and putting video on the display.
I recall reading that the 970 clocked at 1.2GHz used about 12 watts, comparable to the draw of a G4. There is also the possibility that IBM would select processors that used less power and market them to Apple as low power versions useful for laptops. They already select for speed, why not power as well?
Another unknown for the 970 is how it can manage power. The G3 Sahara has the ability to shut down unused systems to conserve power. Can the 970 do the same? Can it go to sleep briefly when there is no work to do?
Earlier I thought I would get a small PB for travelling and rely on my tower and cinema display when at home. However, after the 12 inch PB came out I was disappointed that it was not lighter. I was hoping for something under three pounds. Checking xbench I discovered that the 1Ghz PB was already much faster than my 867MHz tower. The new one will be faster and it will have the connector to drive my cinema display plus a bunch of other features and it will weight in under six pounds so I changed my mind and decided in favor of the 15 inch PB. Now I have the decision and the cash I just need Apple to ship it.
Originally posted by Dave Marsh
The IBM 970 1.2GHz chip draws 19W.
Thanks for the quick clarification. That is a lot.
This means one of two things:
1) Apple are not planning to update the 15" PowerBook at all and may not continue to sell it
2) The 15" PowerBook is going to be updated really, really soon
The problem is, I really can't see either of these things happening... but why would Apple not bother to include it in the pamphlet?
Originally posted by Algol
and when the hell it is supposed to be out?
six months ago
Originally posted by Algol
Anybody know what the MPC7457 power usage is at 1.2GHz, 1.4GHz and up?
I don't know for 1.2, 1.4 and up, but for 1GHz, and it uses 12.6W typically. The low-power version of the 7457 uses 7.5W typically on that frequency.
It's supposed to be out Q4 2003, if memory serves me correctly. Way behind original schedule of course
PowerPage 15 Inch Al PB Report
If O'Grady is to be believed, there are new 15" Albooks boxed and ready to ship. See: http://www.powerpage.org/cgi-bin/Web...y?newsID=11023
100 bucks off across the line?