ironically enough, isn't that how the confederacy was formed?
Well: the confederates liked the way things were. They pretty muched turned one of these fancy "if you don't like it, get out" on the north by segregating themselves. At least, that's one way of looking at it.
this past wednesday, the Young Conservatives of Texas (or somethin like that) held a bakesale on campus to protest the hiring of a diversity council to icrease minorities enrolled. is this a good thing...?
Not in my book. On the other hand, here in California Ward Connerly, a member of the University of California board of regents, sponsered a successful change to UC enrollment policy to forbid race as a factor in admissions.
COLUMBUS | A staff attorney for the Ohio House Republican Caucus was arrested late Wednesday and police suspect he is the flasher known around Columbus as the "naked photographer."
Columbus police arrested Steve Linnen in an alley behind a supermarket near where a woman reported being approached by a naked man who snapped her photo and then ran away. It was the 39th incident in which a naked man has ambushed a woman and photographed her shocked expression. Twenty-eight of them have happened in Columbus.
Linnen, 33, is paid $42,349 a year as deputy legal counsel for the House Republican Caucus. As such, he is on the staff of House Speaker Larry Householder, R-Glenford. Linnen has worked for the House Republicans since Dec. 28, 2000. He has been placed on paid leave pending the outcome of the Franklin County prosecutor's criminal investigation.
Columbus police charged Linnen with public indecency and assault. After he posted bond Thursday morning, Linnen was chased by television reporters outside the jail, police spokeswoman Sherry Mercurio said. Columbus police then re-arrested Linnen because Gahanna police had just issued an arrest warrant, she said.
Linnen is scheduled to be arraigned today on one count of gross sexual imposition and one count of kidnapping in connection with a May 2002 incident in Gahanna.
This report contains information from The Associated Press.
Not in my book. On the other hand, here in California Ward Connerly, a member of the University of California board of regents, sponsered a successful change to UC enrollment policy to forbid race as a factor in admissions.
So go figure.
exactly! here in texas public universities, race is a huge factor. normally, the top 10% of students in high schools get automatic acceptance. but now they're planning (if they havent already, i dont know) on making it so that students of underpriviledged schools (fancy way of saying high levels of minorities) have the 20% rule--top 20% get in. this is pathetic. i dont know...i think that minorities need to make up a bigger chunk of the state schools, but they're going about it all wrong.
and private schools arent immune to the issue--i was recruited to go to rice purely on my being hispanic. many hispanic girls in my high school got in to rice who, while smart, werent rice-material. it's like reverse discrimination.
ok, now i dont even know what we were talking about. took a tangent...
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okay, b4 this thread goes completely off the tracks, let's just get it out in the open; there are assholes EVERYwhere. north, south... doesn't matter. closed minds and all. different issues, and different ways of handling it.
personally, if i can be stereotypical for a minute, i prefer the northern way of asshol-ization. they wear it on their sleeve. they might not like you, but they'll tell you why... to your face.
in the south, you can meet a lovely little old lady sweet as pie, and not know that she is horrified that she had a black kid talk to her at the store, or that there may be homer-sexuals living RIGHT NEXT DOOR, etc., etc. or maybe they're not. you never know. or that they worry if a jewish community starts growing in the area... or mexican... or black...
the devil you know, versus the devil you don't, i guess...
Isn't flying the Confederate flag, or any flag for that matter, a right granted by the First Amendment, i.e. freedom of expression and speech?
Hell, I've seen Neo-Nazi rallies where they have the swastika all over the place. Although we may not agree (obviously) with their motives and ideals, we nevertheless accept their right to express them.
Do we restrict individual liberties in an attempt to be politically correct and inoffensive?
in the south, you can meet a lovely little old lady sweet as pie, and not know that she is horrified that she had a black kid talk to her at the store, or that there may be homer-sexuals living RIGHT NEXT DOOR, etc., etc. or maybe they're not. you never know. or that they worry if a jewish community starts growing in the area... or mexican... or black...
the devil you know, versus the devil you don't, i guess...
Don't forget the ever-present "No, I'm not selling my house because I don't like it that a black family moved in down the road; I'm selling my house because when a black family moves in it lowers the property value."
If by "we" you mean individuals/groups of individuals, then the answer is of course "yes."
How can individuals/groups restrict the civil liberties of others? Obviously physical violence/intimidation may prevent individuals from excersizing those rights, but they remain their protected rights nonetheless.
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If by "we" you mean state and federal governments, then the answer is of course "yes," although not officially.
Which begs the question...if the government and citizens of the United States are willing, according to your post, to restrict expression of self in order to remain inoffensive and politically correct, then how can we justify burning the American flag? Doesn't that offend some people just as much as flying the Confederate flag for others? So if the government is willing to restrict expression of self, again according to you, in an attempt to be politically correct, then why haven't we banned the buring of the American flag?
How can individuals/groups restrict the civil liberties of others? Obviously physical violence/intimidation may prevent individuals from excersizing those rights, but they remain their protected rights nonetheless.
Protected rights don't mean much if no one cares to protect them all that much. If this were not the case, the ACLU wouldn't have much business.
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Which begs the question...if the government and citizens of the United States are willing, according to your post, to restrict expression of self in order to remain inoffensive and politically correct, then how can we justify burning the American flag? Doesn't that offend some people just as much as flying the Confederate flag for others? So if the government is willing to restrict expression of self, again according to you, in an attempt to be politically correct, then why haven't we banned the buring of the American flag? [/B]
Simple: some speech is more protected than other speech.
I don't mean to be pithy or flippant here. It just seems that simple to me. And I'm not talking about something as silly as flag-burning; I'm talking about the absence of any widespread use of unabashedly racist rhetoric in public discourse among elected officials. I'm talking about the ability to be fired from a job because you use such language.
Don't get me wrong. It's not like I'm in favor of this or anything. I'm not. At all. I just think it's worth pointing out that were it not for the influence of those derided as PC fascists, we're still be referring to black people as something decidedly less PC on a day-to-day basis.
I choose not to make a flag out of it, because it's feces.
Likewise, I would like to see the rebel battle flag removed from vehicles. Not by government force, of course, but I would like to see them relegated to history books and museums.
By the way, this is the flag of the Confederacy:
I think the rebel battle flag is pretty damned cool-looking from a purely aesthetic standpoint, I also think the same of the swastika (admit it, the swastika is pretty damned bad-ass looking).
However, I know they carry meaning because I'm a human being who chooses to use his brain so I reject them.
If you fly a rebel battle flag out of Southern pride you are an idiot. Without deviation, you are a blight on my beloved region of my beloved United States.
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Originally posted by der Kopf
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what are you 12?
Originally posted by _ alliance _
ironically enough, isn't that how the confederacy was formed?
Well: the confederates liked the way things were. They pretty muched turned one of these fancy "if you don't like it, get out" on the north by segregating themselves. At least, that's one way of looking at it.
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Originally posted by _ alliance _
this past wednesday, the Young Conservatives of Texas (or somethin like that) held a bakesale on campus to protest the hiring of a diversity council to icrease minorities enrolled. is this a good thing...?
Not in my book. On the other hand, here in California Ward Connerly, a member of the University of California board of regents, sponsered a successful change to UC enrollment policy to forbid race as a factor in admissions.
So go figure.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/local...21flasher.html
GOP attorney suspected as Ônaked photographerÕ
By Laura A. Bischoff
COLUMBUS | A staff attorney for the Ohio House Republican Caucus was arrested late Wednesday and police suspect he is the flasher known around Columbus as the "naked photographer."
Columbus police arrested Steve Linnen in an alley behind a supermarket near where a woman reported being approached by a naked man who snapped her photo and then ran away. It was the 39th incident in which a naked man has ambushed a woman and photographed her shocked expression. Twenty-eight of them have happened in Columbus.
Linnen, 33, is paid $42,349 a year as deputy legal counsel for the House Republican Caucus. As such, he is on the staff of House Speaker Larry Householder, R-Glenford. Linnen has worked for the House Republicans since Dec. 28, 2000. He has been placed on paid leave pending the outcome of the Franklin County prosecutor's criminal investigation.
Columbus police charged Linnen with public indecency and assault. After he posted bond Thursday morning, Linnen was chased by television reporters outside the jail, police spokeswoman Sherry Mercurio said. Columbus police then re-arrested Linnen because Gahanna police had just issued an arrest warrant, she said.
Linnen is scheduled to be arraigned today on one count of gross sexual imposition and one count of kidnapping in connection with a May 2002 incident in Gahanna.
This report contains information from The Associated Press.
Originally posted by addabox
Not in my book. On the other hand, here in California Ward Connerly, a member of the University of California board of regents, sponsered a successful change to UC enrollment policy to forbid race as a factor in admissions.
So go figure.
exactly! here in texas public universities, race is a huge factor. normally, the top 10% of students in high schools get automatic acceptance. but now they're planning (if they havent already, i dont know) on making it so that students of underpriviledged schools (fancy way of saying high levels of minorities) have the 20% rule--top 20% get in. this is pathetic. i dont know...i think that minorities need to make up a bigger chunk of the state schools, but they're going about it all wrong.
and private schools arent immune to the issue--i was recruited to go to rice purely on my being hispanic. many hispanic girls in my high school got in to rice who, while smart, werent rice-material. it's like reverse discrimination.
ok, now i dont even know what we were talking about. took a tangent...
Originally posted by applenut
what are you 12?
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Originally posted by der Kopf
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It's taken you this long to work that out ?
Originally posted by Aquafire
It's taken you this long to work that out ?
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Originally posted by hmurchison
Has anyone ever seen a non-white flying the confederate flag?
Was boss hog white?
Originally posted by hmurchison
Has anyone ever seen a non-white flying the confederate flag?
Anyone ever seen a non-white family star in a television series that wasn't a comedy?
Cheers
Scott
personally, if i can be stereotypical for a minute, i prefer the northern way of asshol-ization. they wear it on their sleeve. they might not like you, but they'll tell you why... to your face.
in the south, you can meet a lovely little old lady sweet as pie, and not know that she is horrified that she had a black kid talk to her at the store, or that there may be homer-sexuals living RIGHT NEXT DOOR, etc., etc. or maybe they're not. you never know. or that they worry if a jewish community starts growing in the area... or mexican... or black...
the devil you know, versus the devil you don't, i guess...
Hell, I've seen Neo-Nazi rallies where they have the swastika all over the place. Although we may not agree (obviously) with their motives and ideals, we nevertheless accept their right to express them.
Do we restrict individual liberties in an attempt to be politically correct and inoffensive?
Originally posted by job
Do we restrict individual liberties in an attempt to be politically correct and inoffensive?
If by "we" you mean individuals/groups of individuals, then the answer is of course "yes."
If by "we" you mean state and federal governments, then the answer is of course "yes," although not officially.
Originally posted by rok
in the south, you can meet a lovely little old lady sweet as pie, and not know that she is horrified that she had a black kid talk to her at the store, or that there may be homer-sexuals living RIGHT NEXT DOOR, etc., etc. or maybe they're not. you never know. or that they worry if a jewish community starts growing in the area... or mexican... or black...
the devil you know, versus the devil you don't, i guess...
Don't forget the ever-present "No, I'm not selling my house because I don't like it that a black family moved in down the road; I'm selling my house because when a black family moves in it lowers the property value."
That one's my favorite.
Originally posted by midwinter
If by "we" you mean individuals/groups of individuals, then the answer is of course "yes."
How can individuals/groups restrict the civil liberties of others? Obviously physical violence/intimidation may prevent individuals from excersizing those rights, but they remain their protected rights nonetheless.
If by "we" you mean state and federal governments, then the answer is of course "yes," although not officially.
Which begs the question...if the government and citizens of the United States are willing, according to your post, to restrict expression of self in order to remain inoffensive and politically correct, then how can we justify burning the American flag? Doesn't that offend some people just as much as flying the Confederate flag for others? So if the government is willing to restrict expression of self, again according to you, in an attempt to be politically correct, then why haven't we banned the buring of the American flag?
Originally posted by job
How can individuals/groups restrict the civil liberties of others? Obviously physical violence/intimidation may prevent individuals from excersizing those rights, but they remain their protected rights nonetheless.
Protected rights don't mean much if no one cares to protect them all that much. If this were not the case, the ACLU wouldn't have much business.
Which begs the question...if the government and citizens of the United States are willing, according to your post, to restrict expression of self in order to remain inoffensive and politically correct, then how can we justify burning the American flag? Doesn't that offend some people just as much as flying the Confederate flag for others? So if the government is willing to restrict expression of self, again according to you, in an attempt to be politically correct, then why haven't we banned the buring of the American flag? [/B]
Simple: some speech is more protected than other speech.
I don't mean to be pithy or flippant here. It just seems that simple to me. And I'm not talking about something as silly as flag-burning; I'm talking about the absence of any widespread use of unabashedly racist rhetoric in public discourse among elected officials. I'm talking about the ability to be fired from a job because you use such language.
Don't get me wrong. It's not like I'm in favor of this or anything. I'm not. At all. I just think it's worth pointing out that were it not for the influence of those derided as PC fascists, we're still be referring to black people as something decidedly less PC on a day-to-day basis.
Cheers
Scott
I choose not to make a flag out of it, because it's feces.
Likewise, I would like to see the rebel battle flag removed from vehicles. Not by government force, of course, but I would like to see them relegated to history books and museums.
By the way, this is the flag of the Confederacy:
I think the rebel battle flag is pretty damned cool-looking from a purely aesthetic standpoint, I also think the same of the swastika (admit it, the swastika is pretty damned bad-ass looking).
However, I know they carry meaning because I'm a human being who chooses to use his brain so I reject them.
If you fly a rebel battle flag out of Southern pride you are an idiot. Without deviation, you are a blight on my beloved region of my beloved United States.