Unilateral or bilateral cryptorchid. Viciousness or extreme shyness. Unilateral or bilateral deafness. Bobbed tail. Albinism.
Note: Although some level of dog aggression is characteristic of this breed, handlers will be expected to comply with U.K.C. policy regarding dog temperament at U.K.C. events.
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Should be socialized early on with children and other animals.
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American breeders increased his weight and gave him a more powerful head. A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog.
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A Pit Bull bite is three times worse than a Rottweilers.
_A Rottweilers has 800psi (Pounds Per Squire Inch Jaw Pressure).
_A Bull Terrier has 1200psi,_
_A pit bull?s bite force is 2000+ psi plus.
And also, they don't often misreport the breed in dog maulings here. When Diane Whipple was killed, it was immediately know that the dogs involved were Presa-Canarios. The boy that got his face chewed off in Richmond last year was indeed attacked by Pitbulls. My dog was attacked by a Pitbull owned by my old high school groundskeeper. They are historically, genetically more aggressive than other dogs. Their muzzles are more powerful than those of most other dogs. This is a dangerous combination.
The Pitbull has a bad rapsheet because of history, not misreporting.
My white cat is dying, there is nothing we can do for him. It was a british white cat, and one of the most sympathic cat i ever know.
Unfortunately dispate our cares, he did not resist to his kidney diseases. I a am astonished he is not already dead. It's just a skeleton, he is unconscious and he just breathes.
We did not have the time, to bring him to the specialized doctor for shorten his pain. However it's perhaps better that he die in his beloved home.
My opinion is that if you can't bring yourself to kill the animal yourself, you've got no business asking someone else to do it for you, and probably shouldn't be eating it. But hey, that's just me.
yer either a vegetarian or a hunter but regardless you are in the minority
I'm a carnivore for health reasons. I'm not a hunter, I have no need to be. I have slaughtered, cleaned, and butchered a farm animal (steer) for food. I don't support factory farms, I eat or purchase only hormone/antibiotic-free and free-range meat whenever possible.
And yes, I realize I'm in the minority. Mainstream folks think I'm some damned liberal hippie, and vegetarians think I'm a mass murderer.
From 18 to about 25 I was a vegetarian. Then I was out in Nova Scotia for a bit and couldn't not try the fresh seafood. Well, from then on it eventually led to the 'harder' meats. I started eating chicken a few years later, and that eventually led to turkey. Now I'll even eat lamb once or twice a year. Pigs sometimes at breakfast. Cattle maybe once a year if at all.
My opinion is that if you can't bring yourself to kill the animal yourself, you've got no business asking someone else to do it for you, and probably shouldn't be eating it. But hey, that's just me.
fine. i dont eat animals, and i don't want to kill them for other people either. not kittens, dogs, turkeys, any animals that many people eat, nor even rats.
how about visiting a modern slaughter house just so you know how they treat the animals there? killing animals there is ok, as some people will eat them.
and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
fine. i dont eat animals, and i don't want to kill them for other people either. not kittens, dogs, turkeys, any animals that many people eat, nor even rats.
how about visiting a modern slaughter house just so you know how they treat the animals there? killing animals there is ok, as some people will eat them.
and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
1. congratulations. im glad
2. i have no desire to visit a slaughter house. it would make me sick to my stomach
3. all 3 of my cats have claws and all 5 kittens were given away with confirmation that their claws would remain intact. declawing is a horrible thing and its disgusting that it is somewhat popular.
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I know how most of the animals raised for food are raised and killed, thus I am vegetarian.
and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
Simple. Because we love & cuddle our cats and dogs, and knife & fork most other species. Humans eat meat. Such is life (and death). I love ya sweetie, but get over it.
(edit): whoops. I quoted too quickly. I've had 5 cats and never de-clawed a one, but the jist of my post still stands.
how about visiting a modern slaughter house just so you know how they treat the animals there? killing animals there is ok, as some people will eat them.
God, you too? Post #4. Read it. Read the repeated reposts I've made saying the same thing.
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and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
I think it's disgusting. My cat has all her claws, thank you very much.
See what I mean? I say I eat meat, and that I think that animals should be treated humanely until a humane slaughter, so I only support such meat production, at added cost and inconvenience to myself because it *matters* to me, and that I can't stand any animal abuse, and all some people want to hear is that "I eat meat"... therefore I MUST support factory farms, pet mutilation and all the rest.
Is there any possible way to carry out this discussion without immediate recourse to hyperbole and pandemic accusations of "idiot"?
I'm asking because I would dearly love to have a reason not to lock this thread.
Carry on. Politely. And for the love of humanity, try to get some basic discernment and a sympathetic understanding of the post you're reading, even if you don't agree with it, before replying. There are no Himmlers here, so there is no excuse for the level of acrimony.
I'm a carnivore for health reasons. I'm not a hunter, I have no need to be. I have slaughtered, cleaned, and butchered a farm animal (steer) for food. I don't support factory farms, I eat or purchase only hormone/antibiotic-free and free-range meat whenever possible.
And yes, I realize I'm in the minority. Mainstream folks think I'm some damned liberal hippie, and vegetarians think I'm a mass murderer.
As I've learned to say in NC... f*ck all y'all.
I think the steps you take are great, I'm a vegetarian mainly for the reasons you've mentioned. But the reason that instead of ditching fast food and buying free-range I decided to go vegetarian was because I worked at Burger King for 3 years. Between the disgust that I got for meat in general and the feeling of knowing that I helped send out boxes full of cow for 89¢ a sandwich I felt as if I was better off with out it. Every now and then I start thinking about Chicken and it's wonderful tastiness, but it's not even worth it to me. If I did ever go back I'd be going about it the same way as you. I'm a vegetarian and all, but it's not because I have anything against the food chain, it's just that the real food chain doesn't exist anymore.
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Originally posted by Kickaha
Well I only had to point you to it *twice*...
Sorry again, but it was just irrelevant to my point so I didn't take note of that.
Unilateral or bilateral cryptorchid. Viciousness or extreme shyness. Unilateral or bilateral deafness. Bobbed tail. Albinism.
Note: Although some level of dog aggression is characteristic of this breed, handlers will be expected to comply with U.K.C. policy regarding dog temperament at U.K.C. events.
Should be socialized early on with children and other animals.
American breeders increased his weight and gave him a more powerful head. A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog.
A Pit Bull bite is three times worse than a Rottweilers.
_A Rottweilers has 800psi (Pounds Per Squire Inch Jaw Pressure).
_A Bull Terrier has 1200psi,_
_A pit bull?s bite force is 2000+ psi plus.
And also, they don't often misreport the breed in dog maulings here. When Diane Whipple was killed, it was immediately know that the dogs involved were Presa-Canarios. The boy that got his face chewed off in Richmond last year was indeed attacked by Pitbulls. My dog was attacked by a Pitbull owned by my old high school groundskeeper. They are historically, genetically more aggressive than other dogs. Their muzzles are more powerful than those of most other dogs. This is a dangerous combination.
The Pitbull has a bad rapsheet because of history, not misreporting.
Originally posted by Powerdoc
My white cat is dying, there is nothing we can do for him. It was a british white cat, and one of the most sympathic cat i ever know.
Unfortunately dispate our cares, he did not resist to his kidney diseases. I a am astonished he is not already dead. It's just a skeleton, he is unconscious and he just breathes.
We did not have the time, to bring him to the specialized doctor for shorten his pain. However it's perhaps better that he die in his beloved home.
Even if it's only a cat, i am very sad.
why don't you have time? make time!
Originally posted by Kickaha
My opinion is that if you can't bring yourself to kill the animal yourself, you've got no business asking someone else to do it for you, and probably shouldn't be eating it. But hey, that's just me.
yer either a vegetarian or a hunter but regardless you are in the minority
Originally posted by alcimedes
i'd post more but it's pretty obvious that the media loves to portray american pit bulls as vicious.
Damn liberal media.
Originally posted by burningwheel
yer either a vegetarian or a hunter but regardless you are in the minority
Dear god, does *no one* read my posts? Post #4.
I'm a carnivore for health reasons. I'm not a hunter, I have no need to be. I have slaughtered, cleaned, and butchered a farm animal (steer) for food. I don't support factory farms, I eat or purchase only hormone/antibiotic-free and free-range meat whenever possible.
And yes, I realize I'm in the minority. Mainstream folks think I'm some damned liberal hippie, and vegetarians think I'm a mass murderer.
As I've learned to say in NC... f*ck all y'all.
Ah, fish...the 'gateway' meat.
...and the Dog Barber should have his ass kicked.
as for the "bite force" stats, they're all bogus. no scientific test has ever been done to compare the bite strength of the various breeds.
(at least none that i've ever read)
every dog should be socialized with other dogs and children at a young age. that's S.O.P.
Originally posted by BR
Animals serve two purposes:
To fit well and be delicious.
dogs don't fit > so they must taste delicious. the spanish make bull tail shop, how about making some dog tail shop?
Originally posted by Kickaha
My opinion is that if you can't bring yourself to kill the animal yourself, you've got no business asking someone else to do it for you, and probably shouldn't be eating it. But hey, that's just me.
fine. i dont eat animals, and i don't want to kill them for other people either. not kittens, dogs, turkeys, any animals that many people eat, nor even rats.
how about visiting a modern slaughter house just so you know how they treat the animals there? killing animals there is ok, as some people will eat them.
and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
Originally posted by Kickaha
How the animal is raised and killed is much more important to me than whether or not it was killed at all in the first place. *EVERYTHING* dies.
I know how most of the animals raised for food are raised and killed, thus I am vegetarian.
Originally posted by Giaguara
fine. i dont eat animals, and i don't want to kill them for other people either. not kittens, dogs, turkeys, any animals that many people eat, nor even rats.
how about visiting a modern slaughter house just so you know how they treat the animals there? killing animals there is ok, as some people will eat them.
and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
1. congratulations. im glad
2. i have no desire to visit a slaughter house. it would make me sick to my stomach
3. all 3 of my cats have claws and all 5 kittens were given away with confirmation that their claws would remain intact. declawing is a horrible thing and its disgusting that it is somewhat popular.
I know how most of the animals raised for food are raised and killed, thus I am vegetarian.
congratulations, do you want a medal?
Originally posted by Giaguara
and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
Simple. Because we love & cuddle our cats and dogs, and knife & fork most other species. Humans eat meat. Such is life (and death). I love ya sweetie, but get over it.
(edit): whoops. I quoted too quickly. I've had 5 cats and never de-clawed a one, but the jist of my post still stands.
Originally posted by Giaguara
how about visiting a modern slaughter house just so you know how they treat the animals there? killing animals there is ok, as some people will eat them.
God, you too? Post #4. Read it. Read the repeated reposts I've made saying the same thing.
and why is the mutilation of cats claws supposed to be ok here in the states (just as so much noise for a dig tail trim)?
I think it's disgusting. My cat has all her claws, thank you very much.
See what I mean? I say I eat meat, and that I think that animals should be treated humanely until a humane slaughter, so I only support such meat production, at added cost and inconvenience to myself because it *matters* to me, and that I can't stand any animal abuse, and all some people want to hear is that "I eat meat"... therefore I MUST support factory farms, pet mutilation and all the rest.
You've really got issues, you know that?
Hilarious flash-movie spoof of The Matrix and agri-business
I'm asking because I would dearly love to have a reason not to lock this thread.
Carry on. Politely. And for the love of humanity, try to get some basic discernment and a sympathetic understanding of the post you're reading, even if you don't agree with it, before replying. There are no Himmlers here, so there is no excuse for the level of acrimony.
Originally posted by Kickaha
Dear god, does *no one* read my posts? Post #4.
I'm a carnivore for health reasons. I'm not a hunter, I have no need to be. I have slaughtered, cleaned, and butchered a farm animal (steer) for food. I don't support factory farms, I eat or purchase only hormone/antibiotic-free and free-range meat whenever possible.
And yes, I realize I'm in the minority. Mainstream folks think I'm some damned liberal hippie, and vegetarians think I'm a mass murderer.
As I've learned to say in NC... f*ck all y'all.
I think the steps you take are great, I'm a vegetarian mainly for the reasons you've mentioned. But the reason that instead of ditching fast food and buying free-range I decided to go vegetarian was because I worked at Burger King for 3 years. Between the disgust that I got for meat in general and the feeling of knowing that I helped send out boxes full of cow for 89¢ a sandwich I felt as if I was better off with out it. Every now and then I start thinking about Chicken and it's wonderful tastiness, but it's not even worth it to me. If I did ever go back I'd be going about it the same way as you. I'm a vegetarian and all, but it's not because I have anything against the food chain, it's just that the real food chain doesn't exist anymore.
Oh yeah, that barber's an ass.