No new PowerMacs until March?

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  • Reply 21 of 229
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aphelion

    I've got a year and a half to make this thing pay for itself. Any creative ideas on how I can do that?



    I'm no accountant, but I've heard third hand that if you purchase a computer for the express purpose of getting published (book or only article, I don't know), you can write off the cost of the machine when tax season rolls around the following year.
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  • Reply 22 of 229
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    Originally posted by LudwigVan

    I'm no accountant, but I've heard third hand that if you purchase a computer for the express purpose of getting published (book or only article, I don't know), you can write off the cost of the machine when tax season rolls around the following year.



    I guess it's a good time to start the "Great American Novel" then. Seriously though, I'm planning a digital photography business using the Powerbook and my Nikon D100.



    I shot a friend's wedding last Summer and it turned out great. I used iPhoto to create an album and they loved it (why not, it was a wedding present). A lot of friends said I should be doing event photography professionally, and so now I am. All I need are some customers. Any ideas there?



    There is a wrestling tournament at the local High School tomorrow and I'm going to cover it with my Nikon and hand out my cards
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  • Reply 23 of 229
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    Originally posted by BRussell

    3. If speed-bumped PowerMacs (say, 2.5 Ghz) are released in March, that's an awfully short life span for them too, assuming that 3 Ghz ones would replace them by end of summer.



    i think it will only be a minor effort for apple to ramp up production of cpu-upgraded powermacs every 4 months
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  • Reply 24 of 229
    You can claim a section 179 depreciation deduction on capital items for your business but there are some rules: Mostly that the amount you can claim is limited to your revenue. Of course, it has to be a real business or the IRS can get grumpy.



    Quote:

    Originally posted by LudwigVan

    I'm no accountant, but I've heard third hand that if you purchase a computer for the express purpose of getting published (book or only article, I don't know), you can write off the cost of the machine when tax season rolls around the following year.



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  • Reply 25 of 229
    cubistcubist Posts: 954member
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    Originally posted by emig647

    Good luck clearing those quantities of G5's... if people have waited this long they are going to wait for the updates. Anyone who buys a g5 right now is out of their mind. I would assume power mac sales are way down right now. I'm too lazy to find a url right now. I just don't see how they could keep up those sales. \



    Well, the way they are doing it is by cutting the price. There appear to still be a lot of single 1.8's out there selling around $1700... and they appear to be selling briskly at that price. I wouldn't say anyone who bought one of them was out of their mind, I'd say they got a pretty good deal.



    But the other models, especially the 1.6's, I would suspect are not selling well at all.
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  • Reply 26 of 229
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    People who read the rumor sites and follow the update schedules are a tiny minority. Businesses and schools buy when the money comes in, and most consumers don't follow the update schedules anyway. I seriously doubt if people waiting for updates is causing any drop off in PowerMac sales.
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  • Reply 27 of 229
    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
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    Originally posted by cubist

    Well, the way they are doing it is by cutting the price. There appear to still be a lot of single 1.8's out there selling around $1700... and they appear to be selling briskly at that price. I wouldn't say anyone who bought one of them was out of their mind, I'd say they got a pretty good deal.



    But the other models, especially the 1.6's, I would suspect are not selling well at all.




    But how many 1.6's did Apple produce, and how many are currently in wharehouses? If Apple didn't produce many in the first place then it might not be such a big deal.
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  • Reply 28 of 229
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
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    Originally posted by JCG

    But how many 1.6's did Apple produce, and how many are currently in wharehouses? If Apple didn't produce many in the first place then it might not be such a big deal.



    So if they weren't selling as well, then Apple doesn't make as many and they then sell those 1.6s over several months. No problem.



    Further, Apple took preorders before they started making G5's, so they knew how low the demand would be for the 1.6s and so they made fewer of them in the first place.



    The idea that somewhere in Cupertino there is a wherehouse full of 1.6 GHz G5s is totally bogus. This isn't Apple under Amelio.
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  • Reply 29 of 229
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    I seriously doubt if people waiting for updates is causing any drop off in PowerMac sales.





    Yea, tell Apple Marketing that.



    Surely you are not serious with that statement... good one.
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  • Reply 30 of 229
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
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    Originally posted by Jubelum

    Yea, tell Apple Marketing that.



    Surely you are not serious with that statement... good one.




    I absolutely do believe it.



    1. It's not even been a full 6 months that the G5s have been really available.

    2. They had the mid-range upgrade even more recently.

    3. The vast majority of people don't follow the update timelines like we here on AI.



    Do you have any evidence that sales have dropped off, let alone that the drop-off is due to update expectations?
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  • Reply 31 of 229
    teddyteddy Posts: 155member
    There is a new deal on the Apple Store for PowerMacs... This could mean something. You get a PowerMac, Apple Monitor and AppleCare for $59 a month if I remember correctly.
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  • Reply 32 of 229
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jubelum

    Yea, tell Apple Marketing that.



    Surely you are not serious with that statement... good one.




    He's correct. I know of NO creative person who looks at the rumor sites to decide what to buy and when. They buy when they have the cash or when they need it.
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  • Reply 33 of 229
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    Originally posted by Outsider

    He's correct. I know of NO creative person who looks at the rumor sites to decide what to buy and when. They buy when they have the cash or when they need it.



    I'm a creative person... I look at the rumor sites... I'm not going to spend my hard-earned cash on something that will be out of date in a week.



    I like to think that Mac users are a bit smarter and more savy than the average PC user, and a Mac user would do a little research before just buying what's available.
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  • Reply 34 of 229
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    Originally posted by Outsider

    He's correct. I know of NO creative person who looks at the rumor sites to decide what to buy and when. They buy when they have the cash or when they need it.



    I'm a designer by trade, and I give buying advice to my associates. I look at the rumor sites regularly, and just the other day talked a colleague into buying a 1.8 Ghz G5 over a dual 1.25 Ghz G4 that he was looking at due to its ability to dual boot OS's. The week before I told another colleague to hold off for a month or so on the purchase of a dual 2Ghz G5 if he could because Apple historically releases new pro machines this time of year. I also talked him out of buying Quark 6 because it was redundant for his needs since he was buying InDesign, and he just uses it to produce a catalog for a mail order business. To say that we, creative professionals, don't keep up with the trends, news and yes rumors that effect our professional livelihood nieve at best, and a bit insulting at worst. We have as much or more at steak, if not more, as IT pro's, and a good amount of influence in the buying decisions that our employers make when it comes to computers.
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  • Reply 35 of 229
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Well I don't know you guys. :P
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  • Reply 36 of 229
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell





    Do you have any evidence that sales have dropped off, let alone that the drop-off is due to update expectations?






    Do you really think that PowerMacs are still selling as well as they were the a month or two after introduction? The Apple employee at the local CompUSA said that in October, they could not keep the Dual 2 in. Now he is sitting on 35 of them. It just does not stand to reason that people are buying an aged model at full pace.



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    As reported by ThinkSecret in 02:



    As one dealer put it, "Professional system sales have slowed to a trickle. They've got to clear stock before they rollout new models. That's how bad it is."





    Here

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    Besides all of this, there would NEVER be a sale on current models if the demand was there. They would not have to. Look around at the deals on PMG5's right now. It's a buyers market- produced by SLOWING DEMAND.
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  • Reply 37 of 229
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    I dunno. I still get plenty of people who say "There's a G5 now?!" or "There 2 Giga-hurts now?!"
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  • Reply 38 of 229
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Outsider

    I dunno. I still get plenty of people who say "There's a G5 now?!" or "There 2 Giga-hurts now?!"



    Well, true to my handle... not all can be "enlightened" to the Mac world.
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  • Reply 39 of 229
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Outsider

    He's correct. I know of NO creative person who looks at the rumor sites to decide what to buy and when. They buy when they have the cash or when they need it.



    I'm a professional illustrator and I'm in the market for a professional machine (obviously a dual g5). The reason why I'm STILL in the market is because of the rev b's on the horizon. Just posting here defeats your idea that "NO creative person" looks at the rumor sites. I need the machine asap, but I dont want to drop the cash on a machine that will be replaced by something more powerful for the same price in another month or two. I just want to get as much for my money as I can. That may be foolish to think that way considering i could be using it now, but hey, we creative people are CRAZY.
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  • Reply 40 of 229
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JohnnyTwoToes

    I just want to get as much for my money as I can. That may be foolish to think that way considering i could be using it now, but hey, we creative people are CRAZY.



    If your business was made or broken by the speed of the machine you woulda purchased a Dual 2GHz G5 machine MANY months ago - been maximizing the profits from the purchase (by doing more jobs faster) and getting ready to sell the sucker and buy the next speed bump...

    If your business isn't made or broken by the speed of the machine you buy the best VALUED machine and keep it as long as you can stand it and maximize your profits by not wasting money on more hardware than you really need.



    Quote:

    Originally posted by JohnnyTwoToes

    I need the machine asap but I dont want to drop the cash on a machine that will be replaced by something more powerful for the same price in another month or two.



    Well... if you are a professional and NEED THE MACHINE ASAP then you'd buy it - that's what professionals do! Now could it be you didn't mean to say "I NEED THE MACHINE ASAP" but instead "I'D LIKE A NEW BUT CAN HOLD OFF"



    Am I right?



    Dave
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