If your business was made or broken by the speed of the machine you woulda purchased a Dual 2GHz G5 machine MANY months ago - been maximizing the profits from the purchase (by doing more jobs faster) and getting ready to sell the sucker and buy the next speed bump...
If your business isn't made or broken by the speed of the machine you buy the best VALUED machine and keep it as long as you can stand it and maximize your profits by not wasting money on more hardware than you really need.
Well... if you are a professional and NEED THE MACHINE ASAP then you'd buy it - that's what professionals do! Now could it be you didn't mean to say "I NEED THE MACHINE ASAP" but instead "I'D LIKE A NEW BUT CAN HOLD OFF"
Am I right?
Dave
ya caught me red handed dave. you win this round, but your victory is a shallow one. FOR THE DAY IS MINE! all kidding aside... if i'm gonna sink money into a machine, my philsophy has always been to get as high as you can on the tech scale so it stays viable longer, but that's just my take on it. You may not NEED that type of horsepower NOW, but someday, who knows. That might keep me running new versions of many of the apps i use longer, or if my needs change it will be easier to accomdate them. I ran a mac LCII with a IIe card for YEARS before i switched over to pc, but my needs changed to neccessitate the switch (family system, wasnt just my decision..you've seen it before i'm sure). I'm still chugging along with my bug ridden system now, but in doing freelance work the only person who will ever use this machine will be myself. Work is slow right now, which is the only reason i'm waiting.
ya caught me red handed dave. you win this round, but your victory is a shallow one. FOR THE DAY IS MINE! all kidding aside... if i'm gonna sink money into a machine, my philsophy has always been to get as high as you can on the tech scale so it stays viable longer, but that's just my take on it. You may not NEED that type of horsepower NOW, but someday, who knows. That might keep me running new versions of many of the apps i use longer, or if my needs change it will be easier to accomdate them. I ran a mac LCII with a IIe card for YEARS before i switched over to pc, but my needs changed to neccessitate the switch (family system, wasnt just my decision..you've seen it before i'm sure). I'm still chugging along with my bug ridden system now, but in doing freelance work the only person who will ever use this machine will be myself. Work is slow right now, which is the only reason i'm waiting.
Heh... Well now, that wasn't so hard was it...
All kidding aside... If I were in your shoes (and I kinda am) I'd be waiting too... (and I am) Yup... as much as I'd like to say I NEED a new machine the reality is I don't (or I'd already have it).
I'm a professional illustrator and I'm in the market for a professional machine (obviously a dual g5). The reason why I'm STILL in the market is because of the rev b's on the horizon. Just posting here defeats your idea that "NO creative person" looks at the rumor sites. I need the machine asap, but I dont want to drop the cash on a machine that will be replaced by something more powerful for the same price in another month or two. I just want to get as much for my money as I can. That may be foolish to think that way considering i could be using it now, but hey, we creative people are CRAZY.
You can read my post again where I sais I KNOW of no creative person, blah blah b lah. And thats all I work with. OBVIOUSLY any creative person on AI responding to me will say they do care what the rumor sites say because, DUH, they are posting on AI!! The Mac rumor site headquarters!
For some of us it's not a matter of getting work done more quickly, it's a matter of getting the work done at all.
I compose and sell music (part-time gig) produced with a Mac, soft-samplers, DAW, etc. PC's have had the raw speed for less money edge for a long time. The G5 finally made the Mac a viable alternative for this kind of work.
I have been getting by on a SP 733 G4 Jaguar/Cubase SX/Halion by bouncing tracks, using the lower CPU usage feature in Halion (and rendering at full res.) Now I have a second machine at work - a 2x2 G5. SX 1 and Halion (and from what I hear, Logic) work great now. But more and more sample libraries that I need for my music are only available in copy-protected proprietary sample players. And these players don't stream from disk well, and they hog the whole CPU.
Even on the latest G5 I can't load the number of instruments I need in order to be competitive with orchestral work. Most all of these sample players work fine on a PC, so it's a matter of time before the Mac versions are optimized for Panther/G5, But development is slow, and I need to throw all the horsepower that I can at the problem for now.
So I am waiting for the rev b G5 to replace my older G4 with hopes that I will finally have the same resources on a Mac that are available for PC users. Every little bit will help. Some day, the aps will be optimized and then I will be a very happy camper.
This seems like some compelling evidence. I hope something happens. Historically (about the last 2 and a half years) according to MacRumors BuyerGuide section, March has been a dry year for new or updated hardware (only 1).
On the other hand January has seen about 3 hardware changes in the past, we had just two this January. Also February has seen one per year. So maybe there is hope for something happening in the next 30 days or so.
Look at the bottom of the page... its Apple Australia and New Zealand... we are not Australia or New Zealand... They got their g5's MONTHS after we did.
No they didn't. They are getting their iPod minis months later but that was announced by Apple. The G5s were available for order immediately with delivery in the same timeframes as US customers.
Look for IBM shipping chips - then you'll have an idea of what is going to happen.
Reality is that IBM just ramped up production on the new 90 nm chips and initial deliveries are allocated to the XServers. Next in line will be the PM, then the iMac, which is in serious need of a G5.
I think that the allocation of the 90 nm to PMs will be rather fast as Apple will not have a large backorder on the X Servers - with the exception of VT making their switch.
My bet is that IBM will use the time between now and, say, June to work out just how fast it will be able to deliver future speed bumps. Apple Marketing will be working on how to get the Mac Faithful to adjust to significant speed bumps every 3 - 4 months and there will be some hard work on inventory control for speed bumps this fast.
We have been too used to Moto slowing things down. Now we have IBM pumping out some serious iron. Tech specs anticipated for 2005 are included on the 90 nm chips with an initial production quantity delivery within the first 45 days of 2004.
No they didn't. They are getting their iPod minis months later but that was announced by Apple. The G5s were available for order immediately with delivery in the same timeframes as US customers.
A guy I've been talking to over the net since 94 ordered his almost immediately when they were announced. He didnt' receive his until late November. (He lives in Auckland NZ)
This all makes sense. The bulk of the market (the US) gets Rev B around 1 Feb, whilst in lesser markets, like Aus/NZ, Rev B's are released post 26 March where the current upgrade offer soaks up remaining Rev A stock.
Look at the bottom of the page... its Apple Australia and New Zealand... we are not Australia or New Zealand... They got their g5's MONTHS after we did.
I am "we are" Australia.
Last time I checked .com doesn't mean .us...
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Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up! - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up! - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Hey daabido,
The promo was on .com site... which is world wide. But if you look at the bottom of the page... you'll see 2 things. 1... the very very bottom says Apple of Australia. And 2... the requirements state that you MUST take it to either an Australian or New Zealand reseller / seller.
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Originally posted by DaveGee
If your business was made or broken by the speed of the machine you woulda purchased a Dual 2GHz G5 machine MANY months ago - been maximizing the profits from the purchase (by doing more jobs faster) and getting ready to sell the sucker and buy the next speed bump...
If your business isn't made or broken by the speed of the machine you buy the best VALUED machine and keep it as long as you can stand it and maximize your profits by not wasting money on more hardware than you really need.
Well... if you are a professional and NEED THE MACHINE ASAP then you'd buy it - that's what professionals do! Now could it be you didn't mean to say "I NEED THE MACHINE ASAP" but instead "I'D LIKE A NEW BUT CAN HOLD OFF"
Am I right?
Dave
ya caught me red handed dave. you win this round, but your victory is a shallow one. FOR THE DAY IS MINE! all kidding aside... if i'm gonna sink money into a machine, my philsophy has always been to get as high as you can on the tech scale so it stays viable longer, but that's just my take on it. You may not NEED that type of horsepower NOW, but someday, who knows. That might keep me running new versions of many of the apps i use longer, or if my needs change it will be easier to accomdate them. I ran a mac LCII with a IIe card for YEARS before i switched over to pc, but my needs changed to neccessitate the switch (family system, wasnt just my decision..you've seen it before i'm sure). I'm still chugging along with my bug ridden system now, but in doing freelance work the only person who will ever use this machine will be myself. Work is slow right now, which is the only reason i'm waiting.
Originally posted by JohnnyTwoToes
ya caught me red handed dave. you win this round, but your victory is a shallow one. FOR THE DAY IS MINE! all kidding aside... if i'm gonna sink money into a machine, my philsophy has always been to get as high as you can on the tech scale so it stays viable longer, but that's just my take on it. You may not NEED that type of horsepower NOW, but someday, who knows. That might keep me running new versions of many of the apps i use longer, or if my needs change it will be easier to accomdate them. I ran a mac LCII with a IIe card for YEARS before i switched over to pc, but my needs changed to neccessitate the switch (family system, wasnt just my decision..you've seen it before i'm sure). I'm still chugging along with my bug ridden system now, but in doing freelance work the only person who will ever use this machine will be myself. Work is slow right now, which is the only reason i'm waiting.
Heh... Well now, that wasn't so hard was it...
All kidding aside... If I were in your shoes (and I kinda am) I'd be waiting too... (and I am)
Dave
Originally posted by JohnnyTwoToes
I'm a professional illustrator and I'm in the market for a professional machine (obviously a dual g5). The reason why I'm STILL in the market is because of the rev b's on the horizon. Just posting here defeats your idea that "NO creative person" looks at the rumor sites. I need the machine asap, but I dont want to drop the cash on a machine that will be replaced by something more powerful for the same price in another month or two. I just want to get as much for my money as I can. That may be foolish to think that way considering i could be using it now, but hey, we creative people are CRAZY.
You can read my post again where I sais I KNOW of no creative person, blah blah b lah. And thats all I work with. OBVIOUSLY any creative person on AI responding to me will say they do care what the rumor sites say because, DUH, they are posting on AI!! The Mac rumor site headquarters!
I compose and sell music (part-time gig) produced with a Mac, soft-samplers, DAW, etc. PC's have had the raw speed for less money edge for a long time. The G5 finally made the Mac a viable alternative for this kind of work.
I have been getting by on a SP 733 G4 Jaguar/Cubase SX/Halion by bouncing tracks, using the lower CPU usage feature in Halion (and rendering at full res.) Now I have a second machine at work - a 2x2 G5. SX 1 and Halion (and from what I hear, Logic) work great now. But more and more sample libraries that I need for my music are only available in copy-protected proprietary sample players. And these players don't stream from disk well, and they hog the whole CPU.
Even on the latest G5 I can't load the number of instruments I need in order to be competitive with orchestral work. Most all of these sample players work fine on a PC, so it's a matter of time before the Mac versions are optimized for Panther/G5, But development is slow, and I need to throw all the horsepower that I can at the problem for now.
So I am waiting for the rev b G5 to replace my older G4 with hopes that I will finally have the same resources on a Mac that are available for PC users. Every little bit will help. Some day, the aps will be optimized and then I will be a very happy camper.
http://www.apple.com.au/promo/tradeupg5/
[B]No new G5 Powermacs before 26 March 2004:
This seems like some compelling evidence. I hope something happens. Historically (about the last 2 and a half years) according to MacRumors BuyerGuide section, March has been a dry year for new or updated hardware (only 1).
On the other hand January has seen about 3 hardware changes in the past, we had just two this January. Also February has seen one per year. So maybe there is hope for something happening in the next 30 days or so.
I am ready to replace my two aging Macs.
Originally posted by Stratosfear
No new G5 Powermacs before 26 March 2004:
http://www.apple.com.au/promo/tradeupg5/
This has been re-re-re-rehashed before. Apple Aus != Apple.
May turn out to be that long a wait, but it would be a coinkeedink I think.
Originally posted by DHagan4755
Okay, how about new Power Macs on March 1st?
Well March 1st is a Monday, so March 2nd is more likely. Plus I'm going to Disneyland that day, so we go that going for us.
Originally posted by Stratosfear
No new G5 Powermacs before 26 March 2004:
http://www.apple.com.au/promo/tradeupg5/
Look at the bottom of the page... its Apple Australia and New Zealand... we are not Australia or New Zealand... They got their g5's MONTHS after we did.
Originally posted by DHagan4755
Okay, how about new Power Macs on March 1st?
the promo ends Feb 28th...how about new G5's on Feb 29th?! you know, a major leap in performance for leap year.
Reality is that IBM just ramped up production on the new 90 nm chips and initial deliveries are allocated to the XServers. Next in line will be the PM, then the iMac, which is in serious need of a G5.
I think that the allocation of the 90 nm to PMs will be rather fast as Apple will not have a large backorder on the X Servers - with the exception of VT making their switch.
My bet is that IBM will use the time between now and, say, June to work out just how fast it will be able to deliver future speed bumps. Apple Marketing will be working on how to get the Mac Faithful to adjust to significant speed bumps every 3 - 4 months and there will be some hard work on inventory control for speed bumps this fast.
We have been too used to Moto slowing things down. Now we have IBM pumping out some serious iron. Tech specs anticipated for 2005 are included on the 90 nm chips with an initial production quantity delivery within the first 45 days of 2004.
Originally posted by Telomar
No they didn't. They are getting their iPod minis months later but that was announced by Apple. The G5s were available for order immediately with delivery in the same timeframes as US customers.
A guy I've been talking to over the net since 94 ordered his almost immediately when they were announced. He didnt' receive his until late November. (He lives in Auckland NZ)
Originally posted by DHagan4755
Okay, how about new Power Macs on March 1st?
Originally posted by Stratosfear
No new G5 Powermacs before 26 March 2004:
http://www.apple.com.au/promo/tradeupg5/
This all makes sense. The bulk of the market (the US) gets Rev B around 1 Feb, whilst in lesser markets, like Aus/NZ, Rev B's are released post 26 March where the current upgrade offer soaks up remaining Rev A stock.
Originally posted by emig647
Look at the bottom of the page... its Apple Australia and New Zealand... we are not Australia or New Zealand... They got their g5's MONTHS after we did.
I am "we are" Australia.
Last time I checked .com doesn't mean .us...
GRIM REAPER:
Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up! - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Originally posted by daabido
I am "we are" Australia.
Last time I checked .com doesn't mean .us...
GRIM REAPER:
Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up! - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Hey daabido,
The promo was on .com site... which is world wide. But if you look at the bottom of the page... you'll see 2 things. 1... the very very bottom says Apple of Australia. And 2... the requirements state that you MUST take it to either an Australian or New Zealand reseller / seller.
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Originally posted by daabido
GRIM REAPER:
Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans.
"You American"? ???
Come on...we don't need the "You American" "You Euro ", " You whatever" mentality around here.
Originally posted by Beige_G3
...Come on...we don't need the "You American" "You Euro ", " You whatever" mentality around here.
His signature is a quote from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, I assume it is a joke not a serious comment.