None of the posters on these boards who have ever been thought to have any credibility (e.g. Dorsal, Codename, WorkerBee, Belle, THT, etc.) have ever offered anything "verifiable."
It seems that there are other ways to discuss Kormac's posts without simply clamoring for more facts. K offers interesting speculation, pure and simple, and perhaps you would be well served to regard it as such. K no longer asserts he has any inside information, if you have read his more recent posts, simply ideas for discussion.
If you were to discuss the ideas put forth, and not simply a person's credibility or originality, it would make the reading of the boards more pleasant for myself for one, and I suspect others. Also, it would be a shame to shout him off the boards yet again, for he always kick-starts interesting discussions.
Well put, Mandricard. As usual, the inimitably succulent voice of reason.
"Right"? "Wrong"? Inside info or speculation? I'm not keeping score. I prefer to see the amazing breadth of imagination that the posters to this board can supply. I mean, that's what draws me to Apple in the first place -- its ability to innovate and thereby create an environment for others to be creative. Isn't that what it's all about?
I agree too. I forget what the dude's name was, but some guy basically figured out the entire raycer chip debacle about a year ago, through reason and logic. His SPECULATION provided great insight.
And for the love of god, people, please read up on that speculation before saying Raycer chips will replace nVidia's graphics boards. Of course they won't. They are a co-processor, with one specific function.
Also, if there ARE dual G5s and two racyer chips in each powermac, I hope to god you get off Kormac's case.
<strong>Hmm, I think that Nostradamus is kormac77.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're not the first. Many used to think this because I was the first who "discovered" Kormac's old posts from circa fall-1999 correctly predicting in detail the Kehei iMacs and the Cinema display.
I have been adressing the content of the threads as they all come from Kormac, and they say something about the persona with which he posts, and the quality of the rumor. You say it's inside info, and I say it's just carefully crafted speculation. It is far from personal attack.
Kormac did not in detail predict any iMacs at all. Good-Better-Best in his estimation were to arrive with different sized LCD's at different price points. We're still waiting on those LCD's. And, in the on-going "is it or isn't it, wait it must be for next time" that has become the i**** saga why don't we remember how completely off base all portable and PDA/sub-note info has been. The toilet seat iBook was to have been a svelte P1 sub-note. HAHAHAHA!!!
This is hardly babling, it is an accurate look at the track record, people. And the track record isn't good.
If dual G5 PMs arrive, how would that in anyway validate Kormac? That info began elsewhere, and Apple has a history of releasing DP machines. That ain't rocket science, figuring that one. Raycer too, everyone's been talking about them since the aquisition. Something is bound to come, but when it does it'll be a case of technology catching up to expectation, and not a case of insider leaks. READ, then RE-READ, my little discussion of cold-reading, it's the best analogy for the 'appearance' of insider info.
Kormac is qualitatively different from both Worker Bee (who posted exact product shots) and Dorsal, who gave exact specs for the quicksilver machine. 867 and DP800, ATA 66, same RAM, the cache system, etc... People didn't want to hear it, and perhaps it was no more than an evolutionary bump that was easily predictable, but they were EXACT proc speeds and Mobo specs BEFORE moto or anyone had released any info about 867 G4s. Kormac has NEVER provided exact specs or even remotely close product descriptions of either iMacs or iBooks or i**** whatevers BEFORE they were released. I find it funny how people who can read so un-critically automatically interpret reason as attack.
If any of you, or Kormac, or anyone else, want me to "get off Kormac's back" as you so put it, that's, my Korean friend, an easy request satisfy. All you have to do is quit the cloak and dagger baloney and either produce exact details that can be verified, or come out and say this is just speculation on your part, and then make ABSOLUTELY NO ATTEMPT to paint it as otherwise. If you read the UBB agreement it explicitly states that you ARE NOT to post information that you know to be false. Speculate? Sure. But let's not have any more BS about your 'insider' status.
Well, I guess not, except Kormac reads the tech pages a little more carefully, and is more disciplined and cagey with his posts. It's fun speculation, don't get me wrong, but it isn't and hasn't ever been, even remotely close to actual Apple product announcements. It irks me to see people talking about how he nailed this or that when clearly the stuff he talked about in no way resembled what was delivered.
<strong>Well, I guess not, except Kormac reads the tech pages a little more carefully, and is more disciplined and cagey with his posts. It's fun speculation, don't get me wrong, but it isn't and hasn't ever been, even remotely close to actual Apple product announcements. It irks me to see people talking about how he nailed this or that when clearly the stuff he talked about in no way resembled what was delivered.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not so fast. The existence of the panel sizes, aspect ratios and res was known before Apple announced a Cinema Display. It doesn't take too much -- do you guys remember Mean Jean Oakerland? -- 'testicular fortitude' to step out on that limb. Manufacturers were making them for someone to use, why not Apple?
Like I said. He reads the tech pages well, but it hardly ammounts to insider info. What was happening to the 21" CRT studio display? Had there not been revisions of the 15" Studio LCD already. A good leap, but still a logical one. Now all the major players have comparable panels. It was just one of those "matter of time" moments. From time to time (especially with an agressive innovator like Apple) developments show up sooner rather than later, but on the balance of it the record is still bad. Anything he's talking about now, was assured for a few Keynotes in a row and didn't materialize. The stuff that has, has either been mentioned elsewhere, or just plain wrong. The most recent addition to the keynote ploy, has been the suggestion of special events. But Apple has itself told us that they would use more special events. With important software in need of complimentary hardware, it is, again, not more than reasonable expectation for something to be given a special event over the next months. The info shows a very distinct pattern of using only what is already known/expected. And again this is always protected with a 'maybe for the next show,' or 'it isn't ready' or 'they're refining the concept' type of suggestion.
- It might have new audio connector which is Dolby surround mode ?
- it will have new Case.
- It will have two Raycer chipset for faster Rendering on 3D: Now we know Raycer chip can be multi-process capable.
- It have AGP x8 and 4 slot of PCI-X slot. More difference is that it use New super fast Bus architecture that each PCI-X slot can have Maximum data pass.
Steve: we had MHz fighting with other CPU. Now no more! low one is 1.2GHz, Middle one is 1.4GHz, High one is 1.6GHZ. AND......
Okay, perhaps it's just me but doesn't anyone else think that G5's across the board might cut into apples profit margin just a bit on the low end machines? I mean, you have to figure that the G5's will cost more then the G4's & then add an additional processor onto the bottom line, DDR Ram & 2 Raycer chipsets? All this for say $1699? That seems highly unlikely (I don't think Apples going to raise the price of the PM even higher, especially in this economy). I would love if he's right, but I find it highly unlikely.
Kormac77 Just for fun, why don't you tell us a little more about "It might have new audio connector which is Dolby surround mode". What would this connect to? It'd obvoiusly have to be digital. USB, Firewire, Gigawire?
[quote]Kormac77 Just for fun, why don't you tell us a little more about "It might have new audio connector which is Dolby surround mode". What would this connect to? It'd obvoiusly have to be digital. USB, Firewire, Gigawire? <hr></blockquote>
I still heartily doubt that we will see g5's. But I do hope to see some new functionality built into the PM's (and not just a speed jump).
And I do not think we have seen the last of iPod... I have a sneaking suspicion that it is not simply an end in itself. However, the pictures floating about of it docking into another item with its back nestling into the body of a tablet etc, seem far-fetched: its battery would overheat. Seeing as I have one, I am just curious as to what exactly it will be.....
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None of the posters on these boards who have ever been thought to have any credibility (e.g. Dorsal, Codename, WorkerBee, Belle, THT, etc.) have ever offered anything "verifiable."
It seems that there are other ways to discuss Kormac's posts without simply clamoring for more facts. K offers interesting speculation, pure and simple, and perhaps you would be well served to regard it as such. K no longer asserts he has any inside information, if you have read his more recent posts, simply ideas for discussion.
If you were to discuss the ideas put forth, and not simply a person's credibility or originality, it would make the reading of the boards more pleasant for myself for one, and I suspect others. Also, it would be a shame to shout him off the boards yet again, for he always kick-starts interesting discussions.
Mandricard
AppleOutsider
"Right"? "Wrong"? Inside info or speculation? I'm not keeping score. I prefer to see the amazing breadth of imagination that the posters to this board can supply. I mean, that's what draws me to Apple in the first place -- its ability to innovate and thereby create an environment for others to be creative. Isn't that what it's all about?
WTF? What are you talking about? 6x?
uh. Listen, you don't have to believe Kormac, or even read what he says, but babbling stuff like that doesn't make you any better.
macintosh hated Mastergating
but then
macintosh was mastergating
matsu hates kormac77
so then is....
matsu really kormac77?
it could become fashionable to create two personas and argue back and forth with each other...g
And for the love of god, people, please read up on that speculation before saying Raycer chips will replace nVidia's graphics boards. Of course they won't. They are a co-processor, with one specific function.
Also, if there ARE dual G5s and two racyer chips in each powermac, I hope to god you get off Kormac's case.
UMA2=
raycer graphics co-processor, for Aqua and OpenGL
Airport on the motherboard, no longer optional
Much faster bus speeds, at least in the pro line
Kormac mentioned some video (MPEG) chip nicknamed Domino
Anything else? We'll see.
<strong>Hmm, I think that Nostradamus is kormac77.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're not the first. Many used to think this because I was the first who "discovered" Kormac's old posts from circa fall-1999 correctly predicting in detail the Kehei iMacs and the Cinema display.
I have been adressing the content of the threads as they all come from Kormac, and they say something about the persona with which he posts, and the quality of the rumor. You say it's inside info, and I say it's just carefully crafted speculation. It is far from personal attack.
Kormac did not in detail predict any iMacs at all. Good-Better-Best in his estimation were to arrive with different sized LCD's at different price points. We're still waiting on those LCD's. And, in the on-going "is it or isn't it, wait it must be for next time" that has become the i**** saga why don't we remember how completely off base all portable and PDA/sub-note info has been. The toilet seat iBook was to have been a svelte P1 sub-note. HAHAHAHA!!!
This is hardly babling, it is an accurate look at the track record, people. And the track record isn't good.
If dual G5 PMs arrive, how would that in anyway validate Kormac? That info began elsewhere, and Apple has a history of releasing DP machines. That ain't rocket science, figuring that one. Raycer too, everyone's been talking about them since the aquisition. Something is bound to come, but when it does it'll be a case of technology catching up to expectation, and not a case of insider leaks. READ, then RE-READ, my little discussion of cold-reading, it's the best analogy for the 'appearance' of insider info.
Kormac is qualitatively different from both Worker Bee (who posted exact product shots) and Dorsal, who gave exact specs for the quicksilver machine. 867 and DP800, ATA 66, same RAM, the cache system, etc... People didn't want to hear it, and perhaps it was no more than an evolutionary bump that was easily predictable, but they were EXACT proc speeds and Mobo specs BEFORE moto or anyone had released any info about 867 G4s. Kormac has NEVER provided exact specs or even remotely close product descriptions of either iMacs or iBooks or i**** whatevers BEFORE they were released. I find it funny how people who can read so un-critically automatically interpret reason as attack.
If any of you, or Kormac, or anyone else, want me to "get off Kormac's back" as you so put it, that's, my Korean friend, an easy request satisfy. All you have to do is quit the cloak and dagger baloney and either produce exact details that can be verified, or come out and say this is just speculation on your part, and then make ABSOLUTELY NO ATTEMPT to paint it as otherwise. If you read the UBB agreement it explicitly states that you ARE NOT to post information that you know to be false. Speculate? Sure. But let's not have any more BS about your 'insider' status.
[ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
Glad to see you back Kor!
[ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: Merlion ]</p>
<strong>Arghhh!!! Matsu bangs head against wall
Matsu - Is Kormac any different than Macintosh? Except that Macintosh was caught and enjoyed the notoriety?
<strong>Well, I guess not, except Kormac reads the tech pages a little more carefully, and is more disciplined and cagey with his posts. It's fun speculation, don't get me wrong, but it isn't and hasn't ever been, even remotely close to actual Apple product announcements. It irks me to see people talking about how he nailed this or that when clearly the stuff he talked about in no way resembled what was delivered.</strong><hr></blockquote>
He did nail the Cinema Display right on.
Not so fast. The existence of the panel sizes, aspect ratios and res was known before Apple announced a Cinema Display. It doesn't take too much -- do you guys remember Mean Jean Oakerland? -- 'testicular fortitude' to step out on that limb. Manufacturers were making them for someone to use, why not Apple?
Like I said. He reads the tech pages well, but it hardly ammounts to insider info. What was happening to the 21" CRT studio display? Had there not been revisions of the 15" Studio LCD already. A good leap, but still a logical one. Now all the major players have comparable panels. It was just one of those "matter of time" moments. From time to time (especially with an agressive innovator like Apple) developments show up sooner rather than later, but on the balance of it the record is still bad. Anything he's talking about now, was assured for a few Keynotes in a row and didn't materialize. The stuff that has, has either been mentioned elsewhere, or just plain wrong. The most recent addition to the keynote ploy, has been the suggestion of special events. But Apple has itself told us that they would use more special events. With important software in need of complimentary hardware, it is, again, not more than reasonable expectation for something to be given a special event over the next months. The info shows a very distinct pattern of using only what is already known/expected. And again this is always protected with a 'maybe for the next show,' or 'it isn't ready' or 'they're refining the concept' type of suggestion.
I have to give him credit for that one, but after that I haven't seen anything come to fruition.
Sometimes I think the "bad english" thing is fake in itself.
Every MacWorld its the same thing, "here come Steve big plan" -- after keynote: "woop maybe nex time, don't know why went wrong, maybe not ready".
See I can fake bad english too.
Me fail english? Thats unpossible!
kormac's a dead man after the keynote. he is clearly dreaming and no insider at all. you'll see. funny what an accent can make.
ok, everything he said will be true at one moment in time, but not in three days. we all know what he'll say if his list isn't *quite* accurate...
c'mon... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
it's fun to speculate though
<strong>Part2
- It might have new audio connector which is Dolby surround mode ?
- it will have new Case.
- It will have two Raycer chipset for faster Rendering on 3D: Now we know Raycer chip can be multi-process capable.
- It have AGP x8 and 4 slot of PCI-X slot. More difference is that it use New super fast Bus architecture that each PCI-X slot can have Maximum data pass.
Steve: we had MHz fighting with other CPU. Now no more! low one is 1.2GHz, Middle one is 1.4GHz, High one is 1.6GHZ. AND......
All in Dual CPU configuration!!.
[ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: kormac77 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Okay, perhaps it's just me but doesn't anyone else think that G5's across the board might cut into apples profit margin just a bit on the low end machines? I mean, you have to figure that the G5's will cost more then the G4's & then add an additional processor onto the bottom line, DDR Ram & 2 Raycer chipsets? All this for say $1699? That seems highly unlikely (I don't think Apples going to raise the price of the PM even higher, especially in this economy). I would love if he's right, but I find it highly unlikely.
Kormac77 Just for fun, why don't you tell us a little more about "It might have new audio connector which is Dolby surround mode". What would this connect to? It'd obvoiusly have to be digital. USB, Firewire, Gigawire?
i think he means SPDIF. it's about time!
And I do not think we have seen the last of iPod... I have a sneaking suspicion that it is not simply an end in itself. However, the pictures floating about of it docking into another item with its back nestling into the body of a tablet etc, seem far-fetched: its battery would overheat. Seeing as I have one, I am just curious as to what exactly it will be.....
:cool:
Mandricard
AppleOutsider