Guys, guys, *GUYS*... come on, let's take the posturing and rhetoric down a notch. Or three. You want to start calling each other stupid, etc, take it to AO or PO.
PC switchers are used to buying mouse upgrades and replacements so will likely prefer the expensive mouse they already have. What they aren't used to is everything matching so probably won't be bothered by the design.
That's wrong. Most people with PC's do NOT upgrade their mice. There are around 200 million new computers sold every year. All with standard two button mice. How many people buy something else? It's just a small fraction of that.
That's wrong. Most people with PC's do NOT upgrade their mice. There are around 200 million new computers sold every year. All with standard two button mice. How many people buy something else? It's just a small fraction of that.
So the enormous 3rd party mouse market exists for a laugh? For so many models to be being made a strong market has been identified. Somebody is buying them.
So the enormous 3rd party mouse market exists for a laugh? For so many models to be being made a strong market has been identified. Somebody is buying them.
I don't think you understand the numbers. Just how many mice (trackballs) do you think Logitech, MS, Kensington, and others sell each year?
Except for MS, these are small companies. You can use the word "enormous" if you like, but it's your word, and doesn't give a number.
It's just like after market keyboards. That market is "enormous" as well. But both don't sell several hundred million units a year. how many large corporations or schools have you been in? There are no replacement mice being used there unless it's for something specific, or to replace those that are broken. And then they are replaced with the same thing gotten from where they bought their machines from in the first place; Dell, Hp, etc.
I know that millions of mice are sold each year. But it's a small fraction of the computer market that buys them. Mostly enthusiasts.
That's wrong. Most people with PC's do NOT upgrade their mice. There are around 200 million new computers sold every year. All with standard two button mice. How many people buy something else? It's just a small fraction of that.
I don't know anyone who does not upgrade their mouse on their PC - it just takes a while.
Once the original mouse starts to need cleaning (rollers clog up with pad gunk), its off to the internet for a $6 optical USB mouse.
I know very few who have. Particularly with optical mice.
Unless of course you consider buying a tablet not an upgrade, then I'd agree.
However, the Apple mouse is neuter by design and sucks for graphic work and folks who don't want to purchase a wacom tablet would love the option of build-to-order 1, 2 or 3 button mouse.
With the move to x86 the perception of not having a multi-button standard mouse will not go over well.
Unless of course you consider buying a tablet not an upgrade, then I'd agree.
However, the Apple mouse is neuter by design and sucks for graphic work and folks who don't want to purchase a wacom tablet would love the option of build-to-order 1, 2 or 3 button mouse.
With the move to x86 the perception of not having a multi-button standard mouse will not go over well.
???? Did you read what you just said?
If Apple people are moving, it won't matter at all.
If Windows people are moving over, then they won't have any more porblems than Windows people are having now when moving over.
Besides, forget the graphics people. I'm one of them, and I don't like two button mice. I use multiple button trackballs. so unless Apple offers those as well, and maybe they should, then it doesn't matter at all.
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Originally posted by Blackcat
PC switchers are used to buying mouse upgrades and replacements so will likely prefer the expensive mouse they already have. What they aren't used to is everything matching so probably won't be bothered by the design.
That's wrong. Most people with PC's do NOT upgrade their mice. There are around 200 million new computers sold every year. All with standard two button mice. How many people buy something else? It's just a small fraction of that.
Originally posted by mynamehere
People don't really upgrade their mouse...unless:
1. laptop: they buy a mouse
2. optical mouse to replace ball mouse
3. wireless mouse
4. broken mouse (not too common)
You also can't ignore that a lot of those older mice will be PS/2 mice, not USB mice and therefore incompatible...
Most PC's these days have USB mice. Virtually all 200 million PC's sold each year come with them now. That's been true for several years.
Originally posted by melgross
That's wrong. Most people with PC's do NOT upgrade their mice. There are around 200 million new computers sold every year. All with standard two button mice. How many people buy something else? It's just a small fraction of that.
So the enormous 3rd party mouse market exists for a laugh? For so many models to be being made a strong market has been identified. Somebody is buying them.
Originally posted by Blackcat
So the enormous 3rd party mouse market exists for a laugh? For so many models to be being made a strong market has been identified. Somebody is buying them.
I don't think you understand the numbers. Just how many mice (trackballs) do you think Logitech, MS, Kensington, and others sell each year?
Except for MS, these are small companies. You can use the word "enormous" if you like, but it's your word, and doesn't give a number.
It's just like after market keyboards. That market is "enormous" as well. But both don't sell several hundred million units a year. how many large corporations or schools have you been in? There are no replacement mice being used there unless it's for something specific, or to replace those that are broken. And then they are replaced with the same thing gotten from where they bought their machines from in the first place; Dell, Hp, etc.
I know that millions of mice are sold each year. But it's a small fraction of the computer market that buys them. Mostly enthusiasts.
Originally posted by melgross
That's wrong. Most people with PC's do NOT upgrade their mice. There are around 200 million new computers sold every year. All with standard two button mice. How many people buy something else? It's just a small fraction of that.
I don't know anyone who does not upgrade their mouse on their PC - it just takes a while.
Once the original mouse starts to need cleaning (rollers clog up with pad gunk), its off to the internet for a $6 optical USB mouse.
Originally posted by e1618978
I don't know anyone who does not upgrade their mouse on their PC - it just takes a while.
Once the original mouse starts to need cleaning (rollers clog up with pad gunk), its off to the internet for a $6 optical USB mouse.
I know very few who have. Particularly with optical mice.
Originally posted by melgross
I know very few who have. Particularly with optical mice.
Unless of course you consider buying a tablet not an upgrade, then I'd agree.
However, the Apple mouse is neuter by design and sucks for graphic work and folks who don't want to purchase a wacom tablet would love the option of build-to-order 1, 2 or 3 button mouse.
With the move to x86 the perception of not having a multi-button standard mouse will not go over well.
Originally posted by mdriftmeyer
Unless of course you consider buying a tablet not an upgrade, then I'd agree.
However, the Apple mouse is neuter by design and sucks for graphic work and folks who don't want to purchase a wacom tablet would love the option of build-to-order 1, 2 or 3 button mouse.
With the move to x86 the perception of not having a multi-button standard mouse will not go over well.
???? Did you read what you just said?
If Apple people are moving, it won't matter at all.
If Windows people are moving over, then they won't have any more porblems than Windows people are having now when moving over.
Besides, forget the graphics people. I'm one of them, and I don't like two button mice. I use multiple button trackballs. so unless Apple offers those as well, and maybe they should, then it doesn't matter at all.