I said in a different thread weeks ago that the 17" iMac would likely become the $999 computer. People complained that they would never buy a $999 machine with integrated graphics. So here it is and it will sell like crazy.
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Can I hook up my Xbox 360 to the 24"?
There are no inputs on the iMac (any size/model) display, so no.
To be entirely honest, I'll probably buy a Yonah MBP, send it back after 13 days (gotta love the UK distance selling regulations) and get a Merom one in its place. I don't care if I screw Apple about like that.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they release the merom boxes before yours even ships.
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Originally Posted by mikef
Why would anybody think it's a Conroe in the first place? Doesn't make any sense...
Because intel is selling conroe and merom with the same product name! The average person has no idea what the specs are, it makes perfect sense to wonder what chip it is since it doesn't say on the apple site.
Äsh.. the 17 incher still has the antique monitor from the G4 era, with 140° horizontal x 120° vertical viewing angle. The 20" has 170° horizontal x 170° vertical, and the new 24" has 178° horizontal x 178° vertical. I wanna spend the big buck on the external monitor, not on the built in one.. so that's why I'm interested in a 17" imac. But still I think it's the viewing angle isn't good enough for its price on the 17" model. That's the one I'm interested in... 20" is too big. Either a 17" or an mac mini with a graphics card... Äsh.. life is bad. So what's up next? A MacBook Pro with core 2?
One of you dorks could have called me and told me the great news! I go all day thinking, dang, I have to wait until the 12th to order a new iMac. It is 1:39 pm eastern time and I just freekn found out. Once I find my wallet, hello 24" max'd to the hilton!
Regarding the new iPod offer...it's *not* there. I got on chat just before I completed my order. I "spoke" with an online rep and he said that the iPod offer is not valid with the new iMac. I ordered anyway because I don't really need an iPod (already have one). I will call Apple to see.
EDIT:
I just got off the phone with Apple. All the new iMacs have been taken off the eligibility list for getting a "free" iPod. The new iMacs are not part of the Get A Mac/Get an iPod promotion.
...and in other news...my new maxed out 24" iMac will ship on 9/15!!! Woo hooooo!!!
Is it me, or do you find it surprising that Apple just announced these "out of the blue" and not at some media event? Sure there were rumors about new iMacs, there always are, but sheesh ..... maybe I'm getting old ...
It could be taken to mean that next Tuesday's announcements are going to be pretty big and Apple doesn't want to take up valuable time announcing the new iMacs.
Apple wishes they had the market penetration that HP and Dell have enjoyed in prior years. I like Apple, but sometimes their paranoia and disjointed decisions irritate me.
Perhaps Apple does no wish that. Comparatively Apple enjoys healthier profits than Dell or HP without the bulk and waste of being a huge company.
I went to the DELL website and configured a Dimension 9200 with a 24-inch monitor. DELL costs $129 more. And, no FW 800, no BlueTooth, only 30-days of phone support.
Dell Dimension 9200 $2218
Processor Intel ® Core?2 Duo Processor E6400 (2.13GHz, 1066 FSB)
Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Professional
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz- 2DIMMs
Hard Drive 250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache?
CD or DVD Drive Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Monitor 24 inch UltraSharp? 2407FPW Widescreen Digital Flat Panel
Video Cards 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache
Dell Service & Support Plans 1 Year On-site Economy Plan
Phone Support Service Dell On Call 30 Day Getting Started Assistance Unlimited Incidents
Security Software McAfee Security Center w/VirusScan, Firewall and Privacy, 90-day trial
Security & Utilities Webroot Spy Sweeper - Now includes 15 month license
I get a $1800 for this system, with Windows XP Home (instead of Pro) and without the flat panel speakers which I could not find. That should not have added $418.
That 30 days of support is for software (any software). I didn't think Apple provided any free software support except for OS X and bundled apps. The Dell does include 1 year of hardware support.
That may change - MS is moving towards more support for Firewire. And if 1394c shows up, that'll be a lot faster than Ethernet. Don't count Firewire out. Besides, the 24 inch iMac also fills the "low-end Mac Pro" spot if no Conroe system appears.
Doesn't Firewire support depend more on the system, motherboard and peripheral manufacturers than Microsoft?
Only if the OP is willing to forego the HD output capability of the Xbox 360...
HUH?? The Eye TV Hybrid, which I ordered for $150 does 720p or 1080i on digital or analog inputs. It has coaxial-in, and a component-to-coax converter cable (which also does S-video to coax). What's the hang-up?
It could be taken to mean that next Tuesday's announcements are going to be pretty big and Apple doesn't want to take up valuable time announcing the new iMacs.
Just my take on the matter.
--DotComCTO
That's a very good point. By all manners, Apple could be getting the "minor" stuff out of the way. Although, I would have lumped a Merom MBP in there with the new iMacs and said "look whats coming next week." I guess I'll never run Apple!
HUH?? The Eye TV Hybrid, which I ordered for $150 does 720p or 1080i on digital or analog inputs. It has coaxial-in, and a component-to-coax converter cable (which also does S-video to coax). What's the hang-up?
I am pretty sure you are mistaken. I doubt it does analog HD input, the only jack is a coax, which means digital over the air tuning at best. I think you are also confusing composite to coax as component to coax.
Yah, but it's got Quickbooks doesn't it? That's what came on my MBP. I don't like it though cause it's only good for businesses.
I didn't see either listed in the software package:
Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger
Tiger offers the amazing Spotlight search technology, handy Dashboard widgets and hundreds more features. Tiger also includes the following system applications:
? Safari 2
? Mail 2
? Address Book 4
? iChat AV 3
? iCal 2
? Font Book 2
? DVD Player 4.5
? Preview 3
? Xcode 2
Included software
iMac comes with an incredible bundle of Universal applications that run on both Intel- and PowerPC-based Macs:
A quick not of minor if any importance is that the bundled software with the new Macs no longer lists Quicken 2006.
As a recent Windows switcher, I am very disappointed in the Mac version of Quicken. The new Quicken 2007, released about a month ago, is not even a Universal binary. And it can not import Quicken for Windows data files. (There is no migration path!)
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Can I hook up my Xbox 360 to the 24"?
There are no inputs on the iMac (any size/model) display, so no.
You can with the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid.
To be entirely honest, I'll probably buy a Yonah MBP, send it back after 13 days (gotta love the UK distance selling regulations) and get a Merom one in its place. I don't care if I screw Apple about like that.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they release the merom boxes before yours even ships.
Why would anybody think it's a Conroe in the first place? Doesn't make any sense...
Because intel is selling conroe and merom with the same product name! The average person has no idea what the specs are, it makes perfect sense to wonder what chip it is since it doesn't say on the apple site.
You can with the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid.
Only if the OP is willing to forego the HD output capability of the Xbox 360...
Yes it is.
Regarding the new iPod offer...it's *not* there. I got on chat just before I completed my order. I "spoke" with an online rep and he said that the iPod offer is not valid with the new iMac. I ordered anyway because I don't really need an iPod (already have one). I will call Apple to see.
EDIT:
I just got off the phone with Apple. All the new iMacs have been taken off the eligibility list for getting a "free" iPod. The new iMacs are not part of the Get A Mac/Get an iPod promotion.
...and in other news...my new maxed out 24" iMac will ship on 9/15!!! Woo hooooo!!!
--DotComCTO
Is it me, or do you find it surprising that Apple just announced these "out of the blue" and not at some media event? Sure there were rumors about new iMacs, there always are, but sheesh ..... maybe I'm getting old ...
It could be taken to mean that next Tuesday's announcements are going to be pretty big and Apple doesn't want to take up valuable time announcing the new iMacs.
Just my take on the matter.
--DotComCTO
Apple wishes they had the market penetration that HP and Dell have enjoyed in prior years. I like Apple, but sometimes their paranoia and disjointed decisions irritate me.
Perhaps Apple does no wish that. Comparatively Apple enjoys healthier profits than Dell or HP without the bulk and waste of being a huge company.
I went to the DELL website and configured a Dimension 9200 with a 24-inch monitor. DELL costs $129 more. And, no FW 800, no BlueTooth, only 30-days of phone support.
Dell Dimension 9200 $2218
Processor Intel ® Core?2 Duo Processor E6400 (2.13GHz, 1066 FSB)
Operating System Genuine Windows® XP Professional
Memory 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz- 2DIMMs
Hard Drive 250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache?
CD or DVD Drive Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
Monitor 24 inch UltraSharp? 2407FPW Widescreen Digital Flat Panel
Video Cards 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache
Sound Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Speakers Dell AS501 10W Flat Panel Attached Spkrs for UltraSharp? Flat Panels
Wireless Networking Solution Dell Wireless; 1450 WLAN (802.11a/b/g) USB 2.0 DT Adapter
Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse Dell® 2-button USB mouse
Optional Ports IEEE 1394 Adapter
Dell Service & Support Plans 1 Year On-site Economy Plan
Phone Support Service Dell On Call 30 Day Getting Started Assistance Unlimited Incidents
Security Software McAfee Security Center w/VirusScan, Firewall and Privacy, 90-day trial
Security & Utilities Webroot Spy Sweeper - Now includes 15 month license
I get a $1800 for this system, with Windows XP Home (instead of Pro) and without the flat panel speakers which I could not find. That should not have added $418.
That 30 days of support is for software (any software). I didn't think Apple provided any free software support except for OS X and bundled apps. The Dell does include 1 year of hardware support.
Steve
That may change - MS is moving towards more support for Firewire. And if 1394c shows up, that'll be a lot faster than Ethernet. Don't count Firewire out. Besides, the 24 inch iMac also fills the "low-end Mac Pro" spot if no Conroe system appears.
Doesn't Firewire support depend more on the system, motherboard and peripheral manufacturers than Microsoft?
Steve
Only if the OP is willing to forego the HD output capability of the Xbox 360...
HUH?? The Eye TV Hybrid, which I ordered for $150 does 720p or 1080i on digital or analog inputs. It has coaxial-in, and a component-to-coax converter cable (which also does S-video to coax). What's the hang-up?
It could be taken to mean that next Tuesday's announcements are going to be pretty big and Apple doesn't want to take up valuable time announcing the new iMacs.
Just my take on the matter.
--DotComCTO
That's a very good point. By all manners, Apple could be getting the "minor" stuff out of the way. Although, I would have lumped a Merom MBP in there with the new iMacs and said "look whats coming next week." I guess I'll never run Apple!
Doesn't Firewire support depend more on the system, motherboard and peripheral manufacturers than Microsoft?
Steve
Yes - but if Microsoft favors one thing over another, it's a heck of an advantage. Nobody's moving to EFI until MS makes an EFI version of Vista.
A quick not of minor if any importance is that the bundled software with the new Macs no longer lists Quicken 2006.
Yah, but it's got Quickbooks doesn't it? That's what came on my MBP. I don't like it though cause it's only good for businesses.
HUH?? The Eye TV Hybrid, which I ordered for $150 does 720p or 1080i on digital or analog inputs. It has coaxial-in, and a component-to-coax converter cable (which also does S-video to coax). What's the hang-up?
I am pretty sure you are mistaken. I doubt it does analog HD input, the only jack is a coax, which means digital over the air tuning at best. I think you are also confusing composite to coax as component to coax.
Only if the OP is willing to forego the HD output capability of the Xbox 360...
That depends on if the XBox 360 can only output HD through HDMI and not through coaxial.
Yah, but it's got Quickbooks doesn't it? That's what came on my MBP. I don't like it though cause it's only good for businesses.
I didn't see either listed in the software package:
Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger
Tiger offers the amazing Spotlight search technology, handy Dashboard widgets and hundreds more features. Tiger also includes the following system applications:
? Safari 2
? Mail 2
? Address Book 4
? iChat AV 3
? iCal 2
? Font Book 2
? DVD Player 4.5
? Preview 3
? Xcode 2
Included software
iMac comes with an incredible bundle of Universal applications that run on both Intel- and PowerPC-based Macs:
? iLife '06
? iWork '06 30-day trial
? Front Row
? Photo Booth
? Big Bang Board Games
? Comic Life
? OmniOutliner
More applications
iMac also includes:
? Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac Test Drive
A quick not of minor if any importance is that the bundled software with the new Macs no longer lists Quicken 2006.
As a recent Windows switcher, I am very disappointed in the Mac version of Quicken. The new Quicken 2007, released about a month ago, is not even a Universal binary. And it can not import Quicken for Windows data files. (There is no migration path!)
Steve