Apple making a music player/the iPod is more absurd then them making a TV. It's really not that far removed from what they are doing right now. Did you ever just know something without proof? Well that's how I feel about this.
TV stand, TV, and that's it. One remote, Apple UI, Styling, and Apple ease-of-use. No DVD, No VCR, No nothing. If they can make a TV, they can and will offer an iTunes TV Show subscription service. You could sign up and ditch your satellite or cable box.
You'll have a TV in your livingroom, with a small bit of storage, iTV and a DVD optical drive inside, but all you will have is a TV. One TV, no other messy cables or boxes. Simple, sleek TV with one remote. That's entirely different than anything else offered by any company right now, and coming from Apple makes it even more appealing. If and when this thing comes out, it will sell, for all of those aforementioned reasons.
So I guess it means you wont buy one, but many others will.
Not at all. If the Apple TV is great why not buy it?
You not getting my point. I am not against the Apple TV, I just see no reason at all for Apple to make one. Like I said, The market is crowded with great TVs, it's the opposite of the mp3 market when Apple saw an opportunity to make the iPod. That's why Apple won't go after the camcorder, digital cameras, printer, etc markets. They are all crowded with great products and low prices and joining these markets will not bring Apple new switchers to buy their Macs.
That's why the iPhone if ever come out, might help Apple with the halo effect to bring more people into the Macintosh. Just like the iPod did. It's all about the integration of software and hardware.
Not at all. If the Apple TV is great why not buy it?
You not getting my point. I am not against the Apple TV, I just see no reason at all for Apple to make one. Like I said, The market is crowded with great TVs, it's the opposite of the mp3 market when Apple saw an opportunity to make the iPod. That's why Apple won't go after the camcorder, digital cameras, printer, etc markets. They are all crowded with great products and low prices and joining these markets will not bring Apple new switchers to buy their Macs.
That's why the iPhone if ever come out, might help Apple with the halo effect to bring more people into the Macintosh. Just like the iPod did. It's all about the integration of software and hardware.
So, you think the TV market is crowded, but you don't think the cellphone market is. The PC market is also crowded. Saying they'll make a TV is not the same thing as saying they'll make a printer or camcorder. When Apple made that digital camera Steve Jobs was nowhere to be seen. A TV is not that far from what Apple is doing, and is certainly in the direction they are heading.
You said: "If the Apple TV is great why not buy it?"
Then you said: "I just see no reason at all for Apple to make one."
Do you see your lack business-knack here. If it's great you may want to buy one, and then you say you see no reason for Apple to make one.
I know if Apple makes a TV will be cool. yes, I probably would buy it, if the price is right, etc.
What I am saying there's no reason to do it. It won't bring more switchers to buy Macs. Just go back a read my posts and reflect a bit.
Cell phone market is entirely different than the TV market. People upgrade their cell phones usually every 2 years (not TVs.). The phones on the market now, some are cool but there is not a seamless way and cool way to sync your phone info to a computer. People would like the idea of carrying one device instead of two. that's why iPod and a phone would be nice combo. It's an opportunity to Apple to bring more switchers.
Like I said if you want to believe the Apple TV is coming, good for you. keep having fun with your mock-ups.
So, you think the TV market is crowded, but you don't think the cellphone market is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The Cell Phone market, here in the US anyways, is a JOKE!! I'm sick of trying to find the perfect phone that does what I need because there is none. Maybe if I took all the models that come close and put them together like a Jig Saw Puzzle it would come close, but mainly I need something that Works with my Mac via Bluetooth and I need to easily install applications. The first one I could find easily, but Palm is fading to black which means the only compelling Smartphones are using Windows Mobile.
You're both arguing the wrong thing though, Apple is already entering the TV market, ahem... iTV. It's just not the way you imagine they would, but it actually makes much more sense because they can rely on the iPod/iTunes fanbase for that "Halo" effect.
The simple fact that I have four remotes for my TV system is enough to make me want to stop watching my TV. As I already said Apple loves the all-in-one, and the Apple TV system will build upon that idea but putting the then successful iTV inside their TV.
Looky here, my Apple TV has just arrived (sign here please, thank you). Since I knew it was coming, I already gave my sister my DVD player, and my VCR is long gone by then. Open it out of the box, plug it in the wall, and you're connected. If by then Apple has their iTunes iPTV service set-up, I will ditch my cable/satellite box too. I'm happy now, I'm chuffed, cause now I have a cool TV that functions in the way I want, I have one remote, I have a UI to die for, and most importantly FINALLY I've got a simple set-up. Like all those years ago when TV came out first, you plug it in and away you go.
Apple HDTV = iMac (screwed to wall) + digital audio out (to your av amp) + version of elgato
therefore - all apple beauty, cd player, dvd player, itunes, tv, internet on one screen.
they just need to make a 32" one.
-al
I get what you're saying, buy we're talking about a proper TV here, the only real thing an iMac has in common with what I've in mind is they both have a slot-load optical drive, they both have the power supply built-in, and they both have a display. Look to the new Sony Bravias to see where I think they are heading. The Apple TV would need a TV engine, and it wouldn't need other things that that iMac has, so they will start from scratch with this (I think they've started already), and they will make it in black as gloss said, as did I. They may wait to see who wins the DVD format war, or they may put in an all-encompassing hybrid drive. They may and probably have already investigated other types of display too.
They probably meant it as just enough time for people to decide whether or not to stick their serial number in. I doubt you can downgrade from the Beta if you had CS2 before.
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TV stand, TV, and that's it. One remote, Apple UI, Styling, and Apple ease-of-use. No DVD, No VCR, No nothing. If they can make a TV, they can and will offer an iTunes TV Show subscription service. You could sign up and ditch your satellite or cable box.
You'll have a TV in your livingroom, with a small bit of storage, iTV and a DVD optical drive inside, but all you will have is a TV. One TV, no other messy cables or boxes. Simple, sleek TV with one remote. That's entirely different than anything else offered by any company right now, and coming from Apple makes it even more appealing. If and when this thing comes out, it will sell, for all of those aforementioned reasons.
So I guess it means you wont buy one, but many others will.
Not at all. If the Apple TV is great why not buy it?
You not getting my point. I am not against the Apple TV, I just see no reason at all for Apple to make one. Like I said, The market is crowded with great TVs, it's the opposite of the mp3 market when Apple saw an opportunity to make the iPod. That's why Apple won't go after the camcorder, digital cameras, printer, etc markets. They are all crowded with great products and low prices and joining these markets will not bring Apple new switchers to buy their Macs.
That's why the iPhone if ever come out, might help Apple with the halo effect to bring more people into the Macintosh. Just like the iPod did. It's all about the integration of software and hardware.
Not at all. If the Apple TV is great why not buy it?
You not getting my point. I am not against the Apple TV, I just see no reason at all for Apple to make one. Like I said, The market is crowded with great TVs, it's the opposite of the mp3 market when Apple saw an opportunity to make the iPod. That's why Apple won't go after the camcorder, digital cameras, printer, etc markets. They are all crowded with great products and low prices and joining these markets will not bring Apple new switchers to buy their Macs.
That's why the iPhone if ever come out, might help Apple with the halo effect to bring more people into the Macintosh. Just like the iPod did. It's all about the integration of software and hardware.
So, you think the TV market is crowded, but you don't think the cellphone market is. The PC market is also crowded. Saying they'll make a TV is not the same thing as saying they'll make a printer or camcorder. When Apple made that digital camera Steve Jobs was nowhere to be seen. A TV is not that far from what Apple is doing, and is certainly in the direction they are heading.
You said: "If the Apple TV is great why not buy it?"
Then you said: "I just see no reason at all for Apple to make one."
Do you see your lack business-knack here. If it's great you may want to buy one, and then you say you see no reason for Apple to make one.
I know if Apple makes a TV will be cool. yes, I probably would buy it, if the price is right, etc.
What I am saying there's no reason to do it. It won't bring more switchers to buy Macs. Just go back a read my posts and reflect a bit.
Cell phone market is entirely different than the TV market. People upgrade their cell phones usually every 2 years (not TVs.). The phones on the market now, some are cool but there is not a seamless way and cool way to sync your phone info to a computer. People would like the idea of carrying one device instead of two. that's why iPod and a phone would be nice combo. It's an opportunity to Apple to bring more switchers.
Like I said if you want to believe the Apple TV is coming, good for you. keep having fun with your mock-ups.
Cheers dude!
So, you think the TV market is crowded, but you don't think the cellphone market is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The Cell Phone market, here in the US anyways, is a JOKE!! I'm sick of trying to find the perfect phone that does what I need because there is none. Maybe if I took all the models that come close and put them together like a Jig Saw Puzzle it would come close, but mainly I need something that Works with my Mac via Bluetooth and I need to easily install applications. The first one I could find easily, but Palm is fading to black which means the only compelling Smartphones are using Windows Mobile.
You're both arguing the wrong thing though, Apple is already entering the TV market, ahem... iTV. It's just not the way you imagine they would, but it actually makes much more sense because they can rely on the iPod/iTunes fanbase for that "Halo" effect.
Sebastian
Looky here, my Apple TV has just arrived (sign here please, thank you). Since I knew it was coming, I already gave my sister my DVD player, and my VCR is long gone by then. Open it out of the box, plug it in the wall, and you're connected. If by then Apple has their iTunes iPTV service set-up, I will ditch my cable/satellite box too. I'm happy now, I'm chuffed, cause now I have a cool TV that functions in the way I want, I have one remote, I have a UI to die for, and most importantly FINALLY I've got a simple set-up. Like all those years ago when TV came out first, you plug it in and away you go.
the Apple TV system will build upon that idea but putting the then successful iTV inside their TV.
Man, you sound like Rolo!
The simple fact that I have four remotes for my TV system is enough to make me want to stop watching my TV. ...
Slewis is correct. There is nothing inherent in an Apple TV which would solve your problem. You need a universal remote that is truly universal.
May I suggest a Universal Remote?
Not a universal remote, I need a universal TV.
Man, you sound like Rolo!
Or maybe we just agree, after all, great minds think alike.
Apple HDTV = iMac (screwed to wall) + digital audio out (to your av amp) + version of elgato
therefore - all apple beauty, cd player, dvd player, itunes, tv, internet on one screen.
they just need to make a 32" one.
-al
Or maybe we just agree, after all, great minds think alike.
hahahaha, you make me laugh.
Actually Rolo is back after a long hiatus.
You should say hello to him. He might create a mock-up for you!
Apologies if this sounds a bit dumb... but.
Apple HDTV = iMac (screwed to wall) + digital audio out (to your av amp) + version of elgato
therefore - all apple beauty, cd player, dvd player, itunes, tv, internet on one screen.
they just need to make a 32" one.
-al
I get what you're saying, buy we're talking about a proper TV here, the only real thing an iMac has in common with what I've in mind is they both have a slot-load optical drive, they both have the power supply built-in, and they both have a display. Look to the new Sony Bravias to see where I think they are heading. The Apple TV would need a TV engine, and it wouldn't need other things that that iMac has, so they will start from scratch with this (I think they've started already), and they will make it in black as gloss said, as did I. They may wait to see who wins the DVD format war, or they may put in an all-encompassing hybrid drive. They may and probably have already investigated other types of display too.
Not a universal remote, I need a universal TV.
Enough with the joking around, now start with the mock-upin'!
Enough with the joking around, now start with the mock-upin'!
Sorry, my Photoshop CS3 trial is now dead
Sorry, my Photoshop CS3 trial is now dead
I know 2 days is a friggin' joke.
I know 2 days is a friggin' joke.
They probably meant it as just enough time for people to decide whether or not to stick their serial number in. I doubt you can downgrade from the Beta if you had CS2 before.