actually turned out better than i thought once i started working on it
i should probably go to church on sunday mornings instead of doing this crap.
anyways expect aapl shares to skyrocket once analysts read that i leaked information on an a real upcoming apple product on a rumor site, and then drop a couple days later once everyone moves past this post.
edit: apparently you dont have to type in "<br>"
can anyone see the picture? i dont know if it uploaded correctly
Ireland linked this thread so here I am. Hi everyone!
There's a case to be made for an Apple HDTV, pro and con. When I first heard about that infamous rumor a year ago, I was both skeptical and thrilled at the same time. The idea of putting a sort of media center into a TV isn't new. The problem for Apple is, what if a bunch of HDTVs come with mini PCs inside running some sort of Vista media center OS? MS would sure love being in everyone's living room controlling the TV/movie experience and operating their own movie download service. Yes, Apple will have iTV but at some point people are going to wonder why they should pay for two media PCs: the one inside their TV and the iTV.
An all in one solution makes some sense from a marketing perspective but going with components will always be popular. Apple can certainly market the iTV plus a separate HDTV display that would also double as a display for the Mac mini and Mac Pro and that'd also work with MacBook Pros and maybe even MacBooks.
Once the iTV comes out, Apple will need to implement HD downloads through the iTunes store. I imagine HD video could be streamed directly to the iTV without the need for a computer. Once you set up an iTunes account, you should be able to buy movies directly from your TV via iTV.
actually turned out better than i thought once i started working on it
i should probably go to church on sunday mornings instead of doing this crap.
anyways expect aapl shares to skyrocket once analysts read that i leaked information on an a real upcoming apple product on a rumor site, and then drop a couple days later once everyone moves past this post.
edit: apparently you dont have to type in "<br>"
can anyone see the picture? i dont know if it uploaded correctly
Yes you uploaded correctly, that drawing if absolutely brilliant! It's hilarious, I love this kind of thing. That's the idea kcdstudios. The all-in-one Apple TV excellent!
Actually I think both an Apple TV and projector are likely. Apple makes things simple. Even seniors can usually run the basics w/o too much trouble. Name me one TV with a menu system that even approaches what Apple would do in ease of use.
Think Apple's: styling + menus and remote + quality + increase in Apple store traffic and income + WiFi for real time photo's & video viewing + built in iTV + iTunes movie downloads = lots'o'sales.
actually turned out better than i thought once i started working on it
i should probably go to church on sunday mornings instead of doing this crap.
anyways expect aapl shares to skyrocket once analysts read that i leaked information on an a real upcoming apple product on a rumor site, and then drop a couple days later once everyone moves past this post.
edit: apparently you dont have to type in "<br>"
can anyone see the picture? i dont know if it uploaded correctly
Actually I think both an Apple TV and projector are likely. Apple makes things simple. Even seniors can usually run the basics w/o too much trouble. Name me one TV with a menu system that even approaches what Apple would do in ease of use.
Think Apple's: styling + menus and remote + quality + increase in Apple store traffic and income + WiFi for real time photo's & video viewing + built in iTV + iTunes movie downloads = lots'o'sales.
Ireland, I know you like the all in one - or should I say Apple likes the all in one - but I sure hope the screen is separate from the box. Anyway...
Some of the people here have not read the other threads that talk about an Apple solution in the living room. A good mock up with all the details would go a long way to them understanding what an Apple solution would look like. Hope sombody delivers some good renders.
For those did not read the other threads, many people in the living room are confused and end up with unoptimized HDTV sets and 5.1 sound. They cannot record video easily and juggle five or six remotes. Most of us here on this forum are techies but I am talking about the other 99% of the population. They need a good solution that is simple to set up and is optimized out of the box.
Most people do not know the difference between composite and component. Add in DVI, SDI, HDMI, RCA, TRS, speaker wires, ethernet, phone line, all the new connectors - most people end up with a pile of spaghetti behind some beast of a entertainment cabinet. Then they attempt to crawl behind this behemoth and program it all in the dark using a flashlight. Then once it is set, they cannot move the beast. Then they close the solid door to all the components and the five IR remotes don't work. I have seen this many times.
What is worse is that their picture quality sucks and their sound does too. Most people are amazed to see anybody get good HDTV and hear 5.1 sound. Why? Not because it looks and sounds incredible but that it works. Go to some of the other tech websites and hear the horror stories by the tech/geek gods. They struggle to get it right. How can the mere mortal non-techie get it right?
That is what Ireland is getting at. Like others have said. Apple coming out with a living room solution is far less a leap then Apple coming out with a portible music player. Heck, Apple already pre-announced the iTV. It is not that far of a stretch.
Since Apple is getting into the living room with iTV and movie downloads, they need to go the whole nine yards and do an iPod for the living room. It is the combination of iTunes and iPod that make Apple's music player a winner. If Apple is getting into movie downloads - which they have - then where is their iPod for the living room? That is what Ireland is talking about. He is thinking different and very Apple-ish. I just hope Apple is too.
Apple is truly the next Sony. They have stores to sell products like this. Add in cell phones/iPod devices and everything integrates. I can just see people walking into Apple stores and sitting down on a couch and seeing great HDTV, hearing 5.1 sound and seeing it all interact with Front Row. It streams photo slideshows, plays tunes, shows tv and movies, and even has a wireless hub built in. Of course it all hooks up with about 5 wires easily marked and comes with tech support to help set it up. Heck, for another 50 bucks, Apple will come deliver it all to your door and set it up.
Oh and that new iPhone plugs right into the iTV or Mac. Transfer shows, address book contacts, read your email, see your calander - finally an Apple PDA - throw in GPS for the road - heck, the new iPod could even be the remote. It could have a big touch screen.
Speaking of GPS. What if the new iPhone/iPod had GPS and also integrated with mapquest or Google maps. Enter the address where you want to go and the directions get downloaded to your iPod. Take it with you in the car and not only does it give you directions, it actually displays the map and verbalizes the directions as you drive.
This is the kind of solutions possible by Apple getting into the living room and cell phone business. Solutions that just work. So, lets dream and see some mock ups. I gave mine verbally.
What sorts of components do you need to have a good HDTV home entertainment system? Say you have a good display, add iTV, a Blu-ray disc player, a TiVo-like DVR, and a stereo surround system. Of course, Apple could combine all of those components into one unit that stands apart from the display but would they? There's a rumor about Apple developing a surround sound system for the living room or just some new iPod speakers.
Apple could certainly make some components that would all be integrated into the Front Row control system and activated with one simple, easy to use remote. Another approach would be for component makers to agree on a connection scheme so they'd all work together, just as Apple does now with 3rd party printers and Bonjour.
As for an iPod for the living room, that iTV box could be it since it has a HD. Just store your music and video collection on it, if it's of a sufficient size. My guess is that HD is small and mostly intended for caching streaming files but who knows?
I'd sure be happy if Apple could have a major presence in the living room. Our lives would be simpler and more enjoyable.
What sorts of components do you need to have a good HDTV home entertainment system? Say you have a good display, add iTV, a Blu-ray disc player, a TiVo-like DVR, and a stereo surround system. Of course, Apple could combine all of those components into one unit that stands apart from the display but would they? There's a rumor about Apple developing a surround sound system for the living room or just some new iPod speakers.
Apple could certainly make some components that would all be integrated into the Front Row control system and activated with one simple, easy to use remote. Another approach would be for component makers to agree on a connection scheme so they'd all work together, just as Apple does now with 3rd party printers and Bonjour.
As for an iPod for the living room, that iTV box could be it since it has a HD. Just store your music and video collection on it, if it's of a sufficient size. My guess is that HD is small and mostly intended for caching streaming files but who knows?
I'd sure be happy if Apple could have a major presence in the living room. Our lives would be simpler and more enjoyable.
There has been no evidence to support the iTV having a hard drive.
I still think there will be a projector and likely a large LCD TV though. Unless Apple just goes there and sets up a THX certification type arrangement. Apple will need them to complete the package.
If it is Apple interconnect gear, it will need to be either wireless or two cables max.
why all the talk that apple should buy sony electronics or adobe? why dont they just buy bose. if its the music biz your in seems like a good move. plus they're a clean company with a good reputation...i think.
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pretty much self explanatory
actually turned out better than i thought once i started working on it
i should probably go to church on sunday mornings instead of doing this crap.
anyways expect aapl shares to skyrocket once analysts read that i leaked information on an a real upcoming apple product on a rumor site, and then drop a couple days later once everyone moves past this post.
edit: apparently you dont have to type in "<br>"
can anyone see the picture? i dont know if it uploaded correctly
There's a case to be made for an Apple HDTV, pro and con. When I first heard about that infamous rumor a year ago, I was both skeptical and thrilled at the same time. The idea of putting a sort of media center into a TV isn't new. The problem for Apple is, what if a bunch of HDTVs come with mini PCs inside running some sort of Vista media center OS? MS would sure love being in everyone's living room controlling the TV/movie experience and operating their own movie download service. Yes, Apple will have iTV but at some point people are going to wonder why they should pay for two media PCs: the one inside their TV and the iTV.
An all in one solution makes some sense from a marketing perspective but going with components will always be popular. Apple can certainly market the iTV plus a separate HDTV display that would also double as a display for the Mac mini and Mac Pro and that'd also work with MacBook Pros and maybe even MacBooks.
Once the iTV comes out, Apple will need to implement HD downloads through the iTunes store. I imagine HD video could be streamed directly to the iTV without the need for a computer. Once you set up an iTunes account, you should be able to buy movies directly from your TV via iTV.
Well, here's a simple Photoshoped mockup that's a Sony Bravia plus Apple's foot and one of my photos.
That's a nice photo...
(snip)
pretty much self explanatory
actually turned out better than i thought once i started working on it
i should probably go to church on sunday mornings instead of doing this crap.
anyways expect aapl shares to skyrocket once analysts read that i leaked information on an a real upcoming apple product on a rumor site, and then drop a couple days later once everyone moves past this post.
edit: apparently you dont have to type in "<br>"
can anyone see the picture? i dont know if it uploaded correctly
Heh, power hole. hehe.
Yes you uploaded correctly, that drawing if absolutely brilliant! It's hilarious, I love this kind of thing. That's the idea kcdstudios. The all-in-one Apple TV excellent!
(welcome to the thread Rolo too)
That made me laugh so hard when I scrolled down to it! Ahahahaha!!!!
Think Apple's: styling + menus and remote + quality + increase in Apple store traffic and income + WiFi for real time photo's & video viewing + built in iTV + iTunes movie downloads = lots'o'sales.
Maybe even a Boze surround sound add-on...
pretty much self explanatory
actually turned out better than i thought once i started working on it
i should probably go to church on sunday mornings instead of doing this crap.
anyways expect aapl shares to skyrocket once analysts read that i leaked information on an a real upcoming apple product on a rumor site, and then drop a couple days later once everyone moves past this post.
edit: apparently you dont have to type in "<br>"
can anyone see the picture? i dont know if it uploaded correctly
Pee-in-the-pants funny. Oh, my!
Actually I think both an Apple TV and projector are likely. Apple makes things simple. Even seniors can usually run the basics w/o too much trouble. Name me one TV with a menu system that even approaches what Apple would do in ease of use.
Think Apple's: styling + menus and remote + quality + increase in Apple store traffic and income + WiFi for real time photo's & video viewing + built in iTV + iTunes movie downloads = lots'o'sales.
Maybe even a Boze surround sound add-on...
Agree with all of that accept the projector and the Bose parts; http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.ph...of_operation1/
Some of the people here have not read the other threads that talk about an Apple solution in the living room. A good mock up with all the details would go a long way to them understanding what an Apple solution would look like. Hope sombody delivers some good renders.
For those did not read the other threads, many people in the living room are confused and end up with unoptimized HDTV sets and 5.1 sound. They cannot record video easily and juggle five or six remotes. Most of us here on this forum are techies but I am talking about the other 99% of the population. They need a good solution that is simple to set up and is optimized out of the box.
Most people do not know the difference between composite and component. Add in DVI, SDI, HDMI, RCA, TRS, speaker wires, ethernet, phone line, all the new connectors - most people end up with a pile of spaghetti behind some beast of a entertainment cabinet. Then they attempt to crawl behind this behemoth and program it all in the dark using a flashlight. Then once it is set, they cannot move the beast. Then they close the solid door to all the components and the five IR remotes don't work. I have seen this many times.
What is worse is that their picture quality sucks and their sound does too. Most people are amazed to see anybody get good HDTV and hear 5.1 sound. Why? Not because it looks and sounds incredible but that it works. Go to some of the other tech websites and hear the horror stories by the tech/geek gods. They struggle to get it right. How can the mere mortal non-techie get it right?
That is what Ireland is getting at. Like others have said. Apple coming out with a living room solution is far less a leap then Apple coming out with a portible music player. Heck, Apple already pre-announced the iTV. It is not that far of a stretch.
Since Apple is getting into the living room with iTV and movie downloads, they need to go the whole nine yards and do an iPod for the living room. It is the combination of iTunes and iPod that make Apple's music player a winner. If Apple is getting into movie downloads - which they have - then where is their iPod for the living room? That is what Ireland is talking about. He is thinking different and very Apple-ish. I just hope Apple is too.
Apple is truly the next Sony. They have stores to sell products like this. Add in cell phones/iPod devices and everything integrates. I can just see people walking into Apple stores and sitting down on a couch and seeing great HDTV, hearing 5.1 sound and seeing it all interact with Front Row. It streams photo slideshows, plays tunes, shows tv and movies, and even has a wireless hub built in. Of course it all hooks up with about 5 wires easily marked and comes with tech support to help set it up. Heck, for another 50 bucks, Apple will come deliver it all to your door and set it up.
Oh and that new iPhone plugs right into the iTV or Mac. Transfer shows, address book contacts, read your email, see your calander - finally an Apple PDA - throw in GPS for the road - heck, the new iPod could even be the remote. It could have a big touch screen.
Speaking of GPS. What if the new iPhone/iPod had GPS and also integrated with mapquest or Google maps. Enter the address where you want to go and the directions get downloaded to your iPod. Take it with you in the car and not only does it give you directions, it actually displays the map and verbalizes the directions as you drive.
This is the kind of solutions possible by Apple getting into the living room and cell phone business. Solutions that just work. So, lets dream and see some mock ups. I gave mine verbally.
Apple could certainly make some components that would all be integrated into the Front Row control system and activated with one simple, easy to use remote. Another approach would be for component makers to agree on a connection scheme so they'd all work together, just as Apple does now with 3rd party printers and Bonjour.
As for an iPod for the living room, that iTV box could be it since it has a HD. Just store your music and video collection on it, if it's of a sufficient size. My guess is that HD is small and mostly intended for caching streaming files but who knows?
I'd sure be happy if Apple could have a major presence in the living room. Our lives would be simpler and more enjoyable.
What sorts of components do you need to have a good HDTV home entertainment system? Say you have a good display, add iTV, a Blu-ray disc player, a TiVo-like DVR, and a stereo surround system. Of course, Apple could combine all of those components into one unit that stands apart from the display but would they? There's a rumor about Apple developing a surround sound system for the living room or just some new iPod speakers.
Apple could certainly make some components that would all be integrated into the Front Row control system and activated with one simple, easy to use remote. Another approach would be for component makers to agree on a connection scheme so they'd all work together, just as Apple does now with 3rd party printers and Bonjour.
As for an iPod for the living room, that iTV box could be it since it has a HD. Just store your music and video collection on it, if it's of a sufficient size. My guess is that HD is small and mostly intended for caching streaming files but who knows?
I'd sure be happy if Apple could have a major presence in the living room. Our lives would be simpler and more enjoyable.
There has been no evidence to support the iTV having a hard drive.
Agree with all of that accept the projector and the Bose parts; http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.ph...of_operation1/
Ah ha! Even better. Also goes well with this:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2314
Looks like your right and Boze is cut out.
I still think there will be a projector and likely a large LCD TV though. Unless Apple just goes there and sets up a THX certification type arrangement. Apple will need them to complete the package.
If it is Apple interconnect gear, it will need to be either wireless or two cables max.
besides, i bet apple corp would just love that.
an apple-(through google)-youtube partnership would bring about the youPod.
more importantly it would bring the
iTube.
theres your name.