Apple unveils iPod touch and iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store

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  • Reply 161 of 311
    I think the new iPods are all great. Apple continues to bring out really great stuff...



    In regards to the iPhone 4GB elimination and the $200 drop in the 8GB, people should already realize that price drops happen like that all the time with new electronic devices. Apple knows their markey obviously, they brought out the iPhone at a price that customers are willing to spend on a revolutionary device and now that its been on the market awhile, they dropped it to continue the steady sales if not increase them.



    For the iPod classic, in one sentence who has 40,000 songs?!?



    The nano, pretty cool but will wait awhile to buy that. Its great for small trips (i.e. jogging, hiking, etc)



    The touch is awesome, this thing is going to make Apple some money. I already want to buy one because of all the great new features. The only thing I wish they would of brought out with the Wi-Fi introduction is widgets.



    Does anyone agree with me on that?
  • Reply 162 of 311
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    Here is what they should have had on offer today - the iPod Vault. It would be a 160gb HD with a battery and WiFi and no screen. When it was on and within range of it's paired Touch or iPhone, Its content would appear seamlessly on the display of the Touch/iPhone and could be played via that device. Want to travel light, just take your iPhone/Touch and go. Want your full music and video collection - pop the vault into a pocket, bag - whatever and you have it all.



    Interesting idea, I like it.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TBaggins View Post


    For the iPod Touch, its 22 hrs, and only 5 hrs while playing video.



    Now, throw a hard drive into the mix. What does batt life drop to then?



    I didn't really dig the original 'video iPod', which only had 2-3 hrs video playback time. One movie, and pfft, you're done. \



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    It doesn't drop from 22hrs, it drops from 40hrs because the Classic has a much bigger battery than the touch to start with. I think the drop might be to 35hrs worst case for music.



    Battery life is not the reason that there is no HDD version. The iPod classic runs an embedded OS on a piddly electronics platform. The iPod touch runs OS X on a beefy processor with 128 MB of RAM. The iPod touch actually has a huge battery, assuming it has one the same size as the iPhone, and I see no reason why it shouldn't.



    Adding an HDD would not reduce battery life too much. The iPod classic has a solid-state memory buffer - data is copied to the buffer, then the HDD spins down. As long as the user doesn't skip tracks all the time, the HDD doesn't have to spin up very often and is off most of the time.



    Some possible reasons why the iPod touch has no HDD option:



    1.) Steve thought the iPod touch with HDD would be too thick.



    2.) The HDD generates too much heat and screws up the touch screen.



    I think it's number 1.)
  • Reply 163 of 311
    So no video out then, a la the iPod video? I mean classic.
  • Reply 164 of 311
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,007member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by G-News View Post


    "I'm not buying any of that crap until Apple releases an iPhone with 1TB of storage, 100h of battery life (fuelcell), a 30" foldable screen, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS, GPS navigation system, satellite uplink, DVB-T receiver, Wi-Fi 802.11m, FireWire 800, a solar panel, independent network selection, the ability to boot OS X and Windows and free calls worldwide and all that for 1.99$"



    ...and it has to be thiner!
  • Reply 165 of 311
    gugygugy Posts: 794member
    I think the iPhone is the winner of today's announcement. Clearly Apple try to hold iPhone as the king of iPods.

    iPod touch with 16gig max of storage is a joke. I will only buy it if when I buy my iPhone the AT&T reception and service turns out to be crap. If not I would think the iPhone is a much better deal (mail, edge, camera, more apps, goggle maps, etc) for $100 more than the iPod Touch. If you need a cell phone anyway and one device that does it all, iPhone is the one. It offers much more than the Touch. So that's where I am going to spend my money.



    I wish the iPod touch had 80 gig and 160gig hard drives on it. It could be thicker. I don't mind. So I guess we will have to wait a good time to increase flash storage.
  • Reply 166 of 311
    bageljoeybageljoey Posts: 2,007member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post


    What is it with Americans? Why do they all say this?



    ...

    Think about it!



    That is not our way.
  • Reply 167 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zenatek View Post


    What I have been unable to figure out is if the calander and contacts are directly editable form the ipod touch like they are on the iphone.



    http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/featu...ure=multitouch



    And iPod touch features a touchscreen QWERTY keyboard perfect for browsing the web in Safari, searching for videos on YouTube, finding music on the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, entering calendar events, or adding new contacts.
  • Reply 168 of 311
    so there is no email on the Touch or there is no .Mac on the touch. Would I be able to go to my Colleges website and access my email by logging in through the site? Also the entire campus is wireless so would browsing cost me anything ($$$) on the Touch? I am really confused about the can and cannots of the iPod Touch.
  • Reply 169 of 311
    adjeiadjei Posts: 738member
    Will you be able to play itunes games on the touch....
  • Reply 170 of 311
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bageljoey View Post


    That is not our way.



    You guys like to say things that don't make sense or don't actually say what you mean?
  • Reply 171 of 311
    does anybody here know if the iPod Touch can run instant chat messaging like MSN or AIM? Thanks
  • Reply 172 of 311
    [QUOTE=anantksundaram;1137505]Actually, no. /QUOTE]



    Yes, hence the



  • Reply 173 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by britwithgoodteeth View Post




    Yes, hence the







    You're cool. I think.
  • Reply 174 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post


    You guys like to say things that don't make sense or don't actually say what you mean?



    Groan \ ..... we've been thru this before.



    Here's the punchline: both "could care less" (British usage) and "couldn't care less" (American usage) are perfectly legitimate (the brit-with-good-teeth may roll his eyes again , but who cares).



    Please check any decent dictionary/word-usage website.
  • Reply 175 of 311
    The iPod Touch and iPhone appear to share the same OS and underlying APIs. There are already reverse engineered software apps for the iPhone. A package loader, a launcher, an SDK. And those tools are getting better by the day.



    Regardless of what Apple does, there will soon be a good sized developer community for these OS X derived products. It will soon be as easy as going to VersionTracker and downloading a package to install new software on the Touch and iPhone. IMHO, that will make these things fly off the shelves.



    Ring tones? Bah. There's already tools to make any of your songs a ring tone. Sure, those tools will never reach "the masses", but the tech savvy will be using them.



    Missing apps on the Touch? Wait a month or two and they will appear. There's a lot of space there to be filled with icons.



    AT&T may force Apple's hand to lock out the third party developers - can't have "wild" software messing with the cell network. But the Touch has no such compulsion. Apple has already shown with the Apple TV that they are willing to turn a blind eye to the hacker community. The Touch brings the same thing with it.



    - Jasen.
  • Reply 176 of 311
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    Groan \ ..... we've been thru this before.



    Here's the punchline: both "could care less" (British usage) and "couldn't care less" (American usage) are perfectly legitimate (the brit-with-good-teeth may roll his eyes again , but who cares).



    Please check any decent dictionary/word-usage website.



    Um, you got the British and American usage the wrong way around. Both are "legitimate" in that they make sense grammatically, but are you seriously suggesting the word "not" has no meaning? The two phrases mean the opposite of each other.



    If I say "I could care less what you think of me", it means that I care about what you think of me (I care and therefore am able to care less). If I say "I couldn't care less what you think of me", it means that I do not care about what you think of me (I do not care, and therefore it is impossible for me to care less - I couldn't care less).



    Of course, since the word "not" doesn't mean anything to you, you will find this explanation hard to follow since it involves the word "not", (or its contraction: n't) quite a bit
  • Reply 177 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,585member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mydo View Post


    RIGHT But we have wireless everywhere in my building and you can't get a cell signal. So why do I need a smart phone to check my email while I'm at work?



    Ah, well that's a specialized need that you should have mentioned.
  • Reply 178 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,585member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    What are you talking about?



    I have a Sony Ericsson K750i and I can put any MP3s I want on to it and I can nominate any MP3 as my ring tone - I don't have to pay anyone anything extra.



    You're in Ireland. I don't know what you can do there, as you don't know what we can do here.
  • Reply 179 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by desarc View Post


    but if i want to use one as a ringtone, it looks like i'm out 2 bucks even though i own the music on disc.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post


    I have a Sony Ericsson K750i and I can put any MP3s I want on to it and I can nominate any MP3 as my ring tone - I don't have to pay anyone anything extra.



    Yeah, that bugs me to. Luckily iToner exists. For 20 bucks you can put whatever songs you want as ringtones on your iPhone.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    Instead of randomly scattered icons on the screen, can the icons be arranged alphabetically? Can you hide unwanted icons like YouTube? Does it come with any games?



    You can't on the iPhone, I don't see why it would be different with the iPod touch.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pmjoe View Post


    Why anyone goes there is beyond me. It's expensive and low quality. I was dragged in there a few days ago, first time in like a year, and was like "WTF, you only have two blends available, one caffeinated and one decaf???". As a tea drinker, they have the worst teas. All of our local coffee shops have better coffees, teas and fresher pastries; better prices and free WiFi. I don't get it.



    I don't suppose you've heard about North American coffee before Starbucks? (and outside NYC/San Francisco). Diner coffee or… diner coffee.



    Starbucks is the main reason all those awesome indie coffee stores exist. For that alone they will always get a pass from me.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thebeat View Post


    does anybody here know if the iPod Touch can run instant chat messaging like MSN or AIM? Thanks



    It can't yet, but it will likely be hacked to enable additional programs.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kman7607 View Post


    so there is no email on the Touch or there is no .Mac on the touch. Would I be able to go to my Colleges website and access my email by logging in through the site? Also the entire campus is wireless so would browsing cost me anything ($$$) on the Touch? I am really confused about the can and cannots of the iPod Touch.



    Basically iPod Touch WiFi = normal WiFi. The main difference is that your only three applications are a browser, a Youtube video browser, and the iTunes store.



    So yes you can to your College website and log in to get your email, and no using WiFi on the Touch does not cost you anything (unless the wireless network is a pay one).
  • Reply 180 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,585member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mydo View Post


    They didn't give us what the could have done with a simple software install. Just install the software for the mail client. It costs Apple NOTHING to include mail.



    This isn't intended to be used for that.



    But, I'll tell you what. I'll bet that the same groups that have been working on SDK's and installers, as well as programs, for the iPhone will surely work their software so that it will function with this as well. Who knows, the two might be close enough so that it will work without modification.



    After all, the iPhone doesn't come with chat, but there are two programs for it that do that. And these are installable programs, not AJAX and XML.



    Who knows, maybe this is Jobs intention to get third party programs on these devices without doing it themselves in case of problems, or whatever.



    That's why I say to wait and see what happens.



    You might get mail, and Exchange support, but not from Apple.
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