Some of us are old fashion. I'm using two iPods but have yet to download anything except a free podcast from the iTunes store, so I don't foresee downloading movies.
I've been on a movie kick the last four nights, watching The Rock and 3:10 to Yuma on BD, Contact on LD and Batman Begins on DVD. The two BDs were exactly what ones expect form HDM and the LD was watchable. The big surprise was how good Batman Begins looked and sounded, with a nice sharp picture and a very active soundtrack, especially in the LFE channel. The picture wasn't HDM quality but was very nice and one can see why some people feel that DVDs are "good enough".
A question about the downloadable movies, do they come with the full featured audio that optical discs do? In my mind that would be an important consideration as full featured sound adds an important dimension to the movie watching experience.
I do not see the advantage of a download especially when the quality is not there. I agree, I'd rather have a disc recored with the best quality 1080p. Hopefully the war between formats ends as I would expect much more companies offering players and the price to slowly move down. Price is not the real issue to me but the worry you choose the wrong format is the real issue preventing many from buying a player and building a collection.
Some of us are old fashion. I'm using two iPods but have yet to download anything except a free podcast from the iTunes store, so I don't foresee downloading movies.
I've been on a movie kick the last four nights, watching The Rock and 3:10 to Yuma on BD, Contact on LD and Batman Begins on DVD. The two BDs were exactly what ones expect form HDM and the LD was watchable. The big surprise was how good Batman Begins looked and sounded, with a nice sharp picture and a very active soundtrack, especially in the LFE channel. The picture wasn't HDM quality but was very nice and one can see why some people feel that DVDs are "good enough".
A question about the downloadable movies, do they come with the full featured audio that optical discs do? In my mind that would be an important consideration as full featured sound adds an important dimension to the movie watching experience.
I think the downloadable movies come with DD5.1 or DTS5.1 and you can use SPDIF or HDMI connection to the AVR. As they are using more storage efficient video codec like H264, some of the MPEG2 compression artifact issues on DVD's may be eliminated as well if the compressionists can put in some efforts.
Anyway, $2.99/$3.99 for online rental fee seems to be expensive, but I guess it's a compromise for convinience and instant gratification.
I think some of the downloadable movies come with DD5.1 or DTS5.1 and you can use SPDIF or HDMI connection to the AVR. As they are using more storage efficient video codec like H264, some of the MPEG2 compression artifact issues on DVD's may be eliminated as well if the compressionists can put in some efforts.
Anyway, $2.99/$3.99 for online rental fee seems to be expensive, but I guess it's a compromise for convinience and instant gratification.
Still stuck with that one-track mind, Marz? The conversation has moved on.
Mah bad, good post Bancho! I've been busy a bit and saw that one on another forum. Didn't notice you posted a page back.
I see the conversation has moved on, but obviously Frank777 hasn't moved on in terms of coming to grips with the end of the format war. LMAO. Get over it bub.
For those thinking Porn was the end all beat all (pun intended), here's a bit of news...
Digital Playground drops HD DVD
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Hollywood (CA) - HD DVD is losing support left and right, this time from the adult film studio Digital Playground.
About a couple dozen titles were released on HD DVD from the studio, making it the leader in high-def adult entertainment. The lucrative industry has been deemed one of the most important factors in determining the success of a new format.
The fact that HD DVD had the adult film industry on its side was seen as a big plus for it, especially because Sony was purposefully not allowing any such titles to be printed on Blu-ray Discs.
However, Sony had a change of heart, and allowed Digital Playground to start releasing its titles on BD last year. Because of the dominant force Blu-ray has in the format war, the studio has chosen to drop HD DVD support entirely, reports German publication Heise.
Digital Playground joins Warner Bros, New Line, and HBO as recent converts to Blu-ray exclusivity. HD DVD is left with just Universal, a founding member of the format, and Paramount, which reportedly received huge monetary incentives to move away from Blu-ray.
That digital playground news is somewhere within the last 10 pages. It's not really new news.
Now, I know I've been gone for about a page, but I haven't been gone that long. I remember something about Digital Playground when they announced "neutrality" within the last 10 pages, but this news specifies Blu-ray exclusivity.
A question about the downloadable movies, do they come with the full featured audio that optical discs do? In my mind that would be an important consideration as full featured sound adds an important dimension to the movie watching experience.
I would definitely try out HD rental from iTunes. The HD rental for $3.99 & $4.99 is something that will make a big dent on this Hidef optical disc war. Basically, there is no hardware entry cost if you already have iTunes/appleTV($229) with broadband connection. I'm hoping to see about $1 drop on the rental fees, but I am just amazed at Apple for getting every damn major studios to support them. I think Sony just wasted $400 - $700 million on Warner. BTW, even Sony is supporting iTunes movie rental.
I still prefer buying the HDM discs, but rest of the world would probably be renting as usual.
Unfortunately most of these comments revolve around content availability and storage capacity. The REAL issue IMHO is DRM. I am old enough to remember vinyl 45's to Lp's to 8 track and then the first consumer friendly format--CASSETTES! You could then take ALL of your older format items and then CHEAPLY re-record them for easy transportability (easier than 8 tracks anyway). This of course pissed off the corporate money grubbers who were EXTREMELY UPSET that blank cassette sales far outpaced pre-recorded ( hereafter called PPRM--purchased, pre-recorded amterial).
When recordable CD's came along, the same thing occurred. Then you really started to hear rumbles about PIRACY. OOOOOOhhh scary stuff. Actually most piracy was limited to Asia as it will be in the future. Real piracy did not occur in the civilised (real easy to tell I do not bend to PC isn't it?) until Napster. Obviously my comments so far relate to music. The same comments hold true for VHS recorders. Until the price of pre-recorded VHS came down, blanks far outpaced sales of PPRM. The same holds true for software in all formats.
Bottom line is PIRACY is a problem AS LONG AS PPRM continues to be artificially high priced in the Western world. Piracy will always be a problem in Asia. Believe it or not Johnny Depp characters still roam the Coral and China seas!
SONY's draconian DRM punishes the West for the crimes of the East. Let's face it... Napster was wrong. The West dealt with it. Music, movie, software etc. piracy is PREDOMINANTLY a problem in the East. SONY apparently not learned that pirates will ALWAYS come up with codecs to defeat copy protection schemes. SONY's DRM really only penalizes the western consumer who will not be able to make back-up copies of what we all know is still FRAGILE media. Blue Ray is SONY, is DRM. BTW, I am a registered user of SONY Vegas which is professional video and audio editing software and DRM is present and a REAL KLUDGE in that program.
Here's a great example of why physical media isn't going away for many more years to come. Just when we're on the verge of having broadband fast enough to watch high-resolution content within minutes, Time Warner wants to start charging people by how much bandwidth they use per month. I think I'll stick to buying my movies and games on a disc, thank you very much.
Thanks Corey, you saved me the effort of posting that myself.
Once VOD becomes commonplace broadband providers are going to want to hit our wallets a bit harder. I'll rent the stuff I only want to view once but I want a nice hardcopy for those bits of content I particularly like. I don't see that changing in the near term. Someday? Sure, but not today.
Here's a great example of why physical media isn't going away for many more years to come. Just when we're on the verge of having broadband fast enough to watch high-resolution content within minutes, Time Warner wants to start charging people by how much bandwidth they use per month. I think I'll stick to buying my movies and games on a disc, thank you very much.
Ouch!....... Time Warner sucks!... Hope everyone in Texas stops their subcription from them..... but 500GB/month for $50 isn't that bad, no?
It seems like enough for now but aTV and other VOD type services gain widespread adoption you'll see mor people increasing their respective bandwidth usage. That may throw a lot more people into that >500 GB range, or TW may notice a trend where a large percentage are hitting some other arbitrary level and lower the bar to catch them too.
Unlimited is unlimited. Their service is no longer unlimited even if the limit they're imposing seems high for now. It sets a really bad precedent.
Here's a great example of why physical media isn't going away for many more years to come. Just when we're on the verge of having broadband fast enough to watch high-resolution content within minutes, Time Warner wants to start charging people by how much bandwidth they use per month. I think I'll stick to buying my movies and games on a disc, thank you very much.
Time Warner's internet business will start to crash and burn the minute they start doing that. People will just look for an alternate isp. Net users won't stand by bandwidth limiting.
Don't be so sure. A lot of people may not even realize it's happened. A lot may figure "500 GB is way more than I use" as if their bandwidth usage will never grow.
So I was watching Close Encounters of the Third Kind on Blu-Ray last night on my shiny new PS3. And suddenly, in the middle of the movie, the fans kicked on. And they are LOUD! It was actually very distracting, particularly during the more quiet intimate scenes.
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I've been on a movie kick the last four nights, watching The Rock and 3:10 to Yuma on BD, Contact on LD and Batman Begins on DVD. The two BDs were exactly what ones expect form HDM and the LD was watchable. The big surprise was how good Batman Begins looked and sounded, with a nice sharp picture and a very active soundtrack, especially in the LFE channel. The picture wasn't HDM quality but was very nice and one can see why some people feel that DVDs are "good enough".
A question about the downloadable movies, do they come with the full featured audio that optical discs do? In my mind that would be an important consideration as full featured sound adds an important dimension to the movie watching experience.
Some of us are old fashion. I'm using two iPods but have yet to download anything except a free podcast from the iTunes store, so I don't foresee downloading movies.
I've been on a movie kick the last four nights, watching The Rock and 3:10 to Yuma on BD, Contact on LD and Batman Begins on DVD. The two BDs were exactly what ones expect form HDM and the LD was watchable. The big surprise was how good Batman Begins looked and sounded, with a nice sharp picture and a very active soundtrack, especially in the LFE channel. The picture wasn't HDM quality but was very nice and one can see why some people feel that DVDs are "good enough".
A question about the downloadable movies, do they come with the full featured audio that optical discs do? In my mind that would be an important consideration as full featured sound adds an important dimension to the movie watching experience.
I think the downloadable movies come with DD5.1 or DTS5.1 and you can use SPDIF or HDMI connection to the AVR. As they are using more storage efficient video codec like H264, some of the MPEG2 compression artifact issues on DVD's may be eliminated as well if the compressionists can put in some efforts.
Anyway, $2.99/$3.99 for online rental fee seems to be expensive, but I guess it's a compromise for convinience and instant gratification.
I think some of the downloadable movies come with DD5.1 or DTS5.1 and you can use SPDIF or HDMI connection to the AVR. As they are using more storage efficient video codec like H264, some of the MPEG2 compression artifact issues on DVD's may be eliminated as well if the compressionists can put in some efforts.
Anyway, $2.99/$3.99 for online rental fee seems to be expensive, but I guess it's a compromise for convinience and instant gratification.
Fixed.
The rest I agree with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=friS4...8960&page=last
Still stuck with that one-track mind, Marz? The conversation has moved on.
Mah bad, good post Bancho! I've been busy a bit and saw that one on another forum. Didn't notice you posted a page back.
I see the conversation has moved on, but obviously Frank777 hasn't moved on in terms of coming to grips with the end of the format war. LMAO. Get over it bub.
Digital Playground drops HD DVD
Hollywood (CA) - HD DVD is losing support left and right, this time from the adult film studio Digital Playground.
About a couple dozen titles were released on HD DVD from the studio, making it the leader in high-def adult entertainment. The lucrative industry has been deemed one of the most important factors in determining the success of a new format.
The fact that HD DVD had the adult film industry on its side was seen as a big plus for it, especially because Sony was purposefully not allowing any such titles to be printed on Blu-ray Discs.
However, Sony had a change of heart, and allowed Digital Playground to start releasing its titles on BD last year. Because of the dominant force Blu-ray has in the format war, the studio has chosen to drop HD DVD support entirely, reports German publication Heise.
Digital Playground joins Warner Bros, New Line, and HBO as recent converts to Blu-ray exclusivity. HD DVD is left with just Universal, a founding member of the format, and Paramount, which reportedly received huge monetary incentives to move away from Blu-ray.
That digital playground news is somewhere within the last 10 pages. It's not really new news.
Now, I know I've been gone for about a page, but I haven't been gone that long.
A question about the downloadable movies, do they come with the full featured audio that optical discs do? In my mind that would be an important consideration as full featured sound adds an important dimension to the movie watching experience.
Yes.
I still prefer buying the HDM discs, but rest of the world would probably be renting as usual.
When recordable CD's came along, the same thing occurred. Then you really started to hear rumbles about PIRACY. OOOOOOhhh scary stuff. Actually most piracy was limited to Asia as it will be in the future. Real piracy did not occur in the civilised (real easy to tell I do not bend to PC isn't it?) until Napster. Obviously my comments so far relate to music. The same comments hold true for VHS recorders. Until the price of pre-recorded VHS came down, blanks far outpaced sales of PPRM. The same holds true for software in all formats.
Bottom line is PIRACY is a problem AS LONG AS PPRM continues to be artificially high priced in the Western world. Piracy will always be a problem in Asia. Believe it or not Johnny Depp characters still roam the Coral and China seas!
SONY's draconian DRM punishes the West for the crimes of the East. Let's face it... Napster was wrong. The West dealt with it. Music, movie, software etc. piracy is PREDOMINANTLY a problem in the East. SONY apparently not learned that pirates will ALWAYS come up with codecs to defeat copy protection schemes. SONY's DRM really only penalizes the western consumer who will not be able to make back-up copies of what we all know is still FRAGILE media. Blue Ray is SONY, is DRM. BTW, I am a registered user of SONY Vegas which is professional video and audio editing software and DRM is present and a REAL KLUDGE in that program.
Once VOD becomes commonplace broadband providers are going to want to hit our wallets a bit harder. I'll rent the stuff I only want to view once but I want a nice hardcopy for those bits of content I particularly like. I don't see that changing in the near term. Someday? Sure, but not today.
Here's a great example of why physical media isn't going away for many more years to come. Just when we're on the verge of having broadband fast enough to watch high-resolution content within minutes, Time Warner wants to start charging people by how much bandwidth they use per month. I think I'll stick to buying my movies and games on a disc, thank you very much.
Ouch!....... Time Warner sucks!... Hope everyone in Texas stops their subcription from them..... but 500GB/month for $50 isn't that bad, no?
Unlimited is unlimited. Their service is no longer unlimited even if the limit they're imposing seems high for now. It sets a really bad precedent.
Here's a great example of why physical media isn't going away for many more years to come. Just when we're on the verge of having broadband fast enough to watch high-resolution content within minutes, Time Warner wants to start charging people by how much bandwidth they use per month. I think I'll stick to buying my movies and games on a disc, thank you very much.
Time Warner's internet business will start to crash and burn the minute they start doing that. People will just look for an alternate isp. Net users won't stand by bandwidth limiting.
This has me concerned.