I saw a receipt earlier today supposedly from Best Buy. I looked legit.
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PS3 Getting Another Price Cut January 28th
$299.99 USD for a Playstation 3 looks like a steal. Rumors are floating around that this is becoming reality, and before the end of January 2008. Is it possible?
We contacted some of our insiders to get the latest scoop on this rumor and see if it had any fact behind it. We were skeptical, after all the PS3 just received a price-cut in November.
The Playstation 3 IS in fact getting a price-cut. A new model, will retail at $299.99 USD, the announcement will be made January 28, 2008, and the new price will take effect Friday February 29, 2008. There are two main reasons as to why the Playstation 3 is getting this price-cut.
Reason 1: The playstation 3 production costs have decreased tremendously over the past couple of months. What used to cost $800, now cost less than $400.
Reason 2: Time Warner. In exchange for Time Warner's exclusitivity (and an end to the format war), Sony has promised to reduce the price of the Playstation 3. As many of you know the Playstation 3 is equipped with a blu-ray disk drive, and the more the Ps3 sells, the greater the chance of Blu-Ray's success.
We are very excited to bring you these news today.
I saw a receipt earlier today supposedly from Best Buy. I looked legit.
For $299 I will forego Mass Effect until it goes on the PC platform unless the build quality sucks...or is it the current PS3 40GB? I wonder if the 80GB will drop...
If they do drop 40GB version by $100, and I would think the 80GB would also drop $100, too.
Actually, the PS3 price drop would be a good move by Sony, but we'll see when it happens. Hm... $299 & $399 PS3/Blu-Ray player does sound better, but still need to have fully featured players under $199. Going back on the sideline for cheap combo drive or fully featured combo player..
If they do drop 40GB version by $100, and I would think the 80GB would also drop $100, too.
Actually, the PS3 price drop would be a good move by Sony, but we'll see when it happens. Hm... $299 & $399 PS3/Blu-Ray player does sound better, but still need to have fully featured players under $199. Going back on the sideline for cheap combo drive or fully featured combo player..
Price are dropping rapidly. This latest price drop is not only going to sell a lot of blu ray players, but also move many gamers to the point where the PS3 is looking affordable for them. The combination of MGS4 and a cheap PS3 will probably sell quite a few systems.
If they do drop 40GB version by $100, and I would think the 80GB would also drop $100, too.
Actually, the PS3 price drop would be a good move by Sony, but we'll see when it happens. Hm... $299 & $399 PS3/Blu-Ray player does sound better, but still need to have fully featured players under $199. Going back on the sideline for cheap combo drive or fully featured combo player..
bite, it's beginning to sound as though you wouldn't take a BD player/PS3 if someone gave it to you. Think of all the BD exclusive movies you're missing. Maybe you and marz should make a pact; you'll buy one if he does -- grin.
There're rumors floating around that the 40GB PS3 could drop to $299 very soon!
Is Sony trying to solidify Blu-Ray as the UMD of the PS3? Who'd be willing to buy a dedicated player — that isn't firmware or profile upgradeable via Ethernet — at these prices? Hell, what company would be willing to try and compete with a $299 player that also happens to play games?
Does the PS3 come with a remote, beyond the game controller?
bite, it's beginning to sound as though you wouldn't take a BD player/PS3 if someone gave it to you. Think of all the BD exclusive movies you're missing. Maybe you and marz should make a pact; you'll buy one if he does -- grin.
haha.... I'll pay for shipping if you're kindly offering your Blu-Ray player to me..
It's not that I don't want a Blu-Ray player as I had planned on going neutral to support HDM even way before the Warner's defection. I don't even mind paying for an extra cost for higher end model as long as it comes with full features and being able to play HD-DVD/Blu-Ray discs.
Anyway, since I still need a combo drive for my HTPC to archive all the HDM's on HDD, I would much prefer spending money where it can be used more than just HDM playback. The $299 PS3 still is a poor choice for me as I'm not interested in playing games on the PS3. If possible, $299 for fully featured Standalone Blu-Ray player would tempt me more, even if I don't like buying low end CE.
Really.... the HDM market size is booming and started to take sales off DVD? This would be a good news, if true.. Is there a sign/press that indicates the mass consumers on the sideline started grabbing Blu-Ray players off the shelf? As you have much faith in the Blu-Ray format, what's still keeping you on the sideline? You're probably most informed Blu-Ray supporting sideliner for last three years(?). Obviously, you still have reservation about the future of Blu-Ray as HDM optical disc format? Or is it because of the mere ~$100 extra cost on the Blu-Ray player..... which the Blu-Ray player price is supposed to be $200?
Once again, wake me up if Bill Hunt predicts when the HDM market is about to explode. I want to take shot of this "big bang" event with my new SLR. I do like good fireworks.
Blu-ray Hardware Sales Pick Up After Warner Announcement
A new NPD Group report shows that stand-alone Blu-ray player sales benefited greatly from the recent announcement that Warner would be going Blu-ray exclusive. The first week of January, before Warner made their announcement, there was a nearly 50-50 split between Blu-ray and HD DVD standalone players. The following week, after the announcement, Blu-ray players grabbed 93% of the market.
On the whole, December sales data showed that Blu-ray players held 60% of the standalone market, despite much cheaper players from the HD DVD camp. Looking at only the first two weeks of January, Blu-ray already has a nearly 70% market share which is sure to increase as the month continues and consumers continue to chose Blu-ray over its rival format.
There ya go bite. And NO, lets make it clear, I HAVE NO RESERVATIONS "about the future of Blu-Ray as HDM optical disc format." If I could, I'd buy one--a Blu-ray player--up in a second. We've been through this bud. For a guy so interested in my finances and/or purchases, you tend to forget a lot of things--like my recent purchase of a $37,000 Enclave, that basically trumps my chances of getting a Blu-ray player for a while. Sorry, but toys and gadgets take a back seat to certain liabilities ones have.
So, no, it certainly isn't an issue in regards to confidence in a winner. That much is certain---that Blu-ray has won and is on its way to mass consumption. So obviously, you know my current situation just about as much as you know about the current state of affairs of the format war--not much.
When the PS3 is $249.99 or less I'll buy. I am not interested in an XBox 360. I'm interested in the dual capabilities of a BluRay system and Games without being an add on.
There ya go bite. And NO, lets make it clear, I HAVE NO RESERVATIONS "about the future of Blu-Ray as HDM optical disc format." If I could, I'd buy one--a Blu-ray player--up in a second. We've been through this bud. For a guy so interested in my finances and/or purchases, you tend to forget a lot of things--like my recent purchase of a $37,000 Enclave, that basically trumps my chances of getting a Blu-ray player for a while. Sorry, but toys and gadgets take a back seat to certain liabilities ones have.
So, no, it certainly isn't an issue in regards to confidence in a winner. That much is certain---that Blu-ray has won and is on its way to mass consumption. So obviously, you know my current situation just about as much as you know about the current state of affairs of the format war--not much.
The Ratio (or %) of 10:1 can be 10 unit to 1 or 10 million to 1 million.... but what are the actual units being moved? Are you that naive not knowing what unit ratio means vs. the real unit volumes? How does your stats show there is increase in demand of unit volume for HDM(Blu-Ray) players?
BTW, is there a stat after Toshiba had lowered retail prices at $149, $199, and $299 of their current units? The old news you've been quoting over and over again is outdated as Toshiba had announced new prices after the announcement of Warner's plan to defect HD-DVD in June of 2008.
And as much as you would like to believe Blu-Ray had won, it is still a wishful thinking of a Blu-Ray fanboy. We've heard Sony claiming victory way too many times since the begining of 2007 and still there isn't a clear winner. In a niche market like the current HDM market, which consist of less than 1% of the DVD market, there is no such a winner (Was there a winner over SACD vs. DVD-A?). There are only losers.... small or big...... unless one of the HDM optical format can win over the DVD's. As I said before, the current marketing movement of Blu-Ray is heading right into another niche technology at best. Hence, even if Blu-Ray may win over HD-DVD, it is still a loser. Perhaps, even bigger loser than HD-DVD. The new strategy from Toshiba started going after DVD hardware market directly as upconverting/HD-DVD player at the price point and this may actually reach the mass consumers quicker than blu-ray ever will.
I may be delusional still supporting HD-DVD, but I'm actually optimistic about what Toshiba is doing. I wish the price drop would have happened about 6 weeks ago in Dec. of 2007, but the current strategy at lower prices with free 7 HD-DVD's, as low as $120 for HD-A3 from Amazon, the J6P may take the bait. Basically, HD-DVD hardware is now being offered at mass consumer level and this is only way to lure and introduce HDM to the mass consumers with newly purchased HDTV's.
Is Sony trying to solidify Blu-Ray as the UMD of the PS3? Who'd be willing to buy a dedicated player ? that isn't firmware or profile upgradeable via Ethernet ? at these prices? Hell, what company would be willing to try and compete with a $299 player that also happens to play games?
Does the PS3 come with a remote, beyond the game controller?
What consumer would buy a player that only plays 25% of the high def movies available?
And as much as you would like to believe Blu-Ray had won, it is still a wishful thinking of a Blu-Ray fanboy. We've heard Sony claiming victory way too many times since the begining of 2007 and still there isn't a clear winner.
Ok, I'll "bite" in SIMPLE terms how would BD "WIN" the Hi-def format "war" by your reckoning?
All movie Studios go Blu?
Toshiba starts selling BD players? or even Dual format.
or something else more convoluted that you will likely come up with?
And as much as you would like to believe Blu-Ray had won, it is still a wishful thinking of a Blu-Ray fanboy. We've heard Sony claiming victory way too many times since the begining of 2007 and still there isn't a clear winner.
You just hang on there buddy. Oh, and this go around its mass media declaring victory for Blu-Ray...not just Digital Bits and Sony.
The new strategy from Toshiba started going after DVD hardware market directly as upconverting/HD-DVD player at the price point and this may actually reach the mass consumers quicker than blu-ray ever will.
Yes, because we can completely discount Sony's strategy for the PS3 and the rumored price drops to accomodate Warner...not to mention the millions of PS3s already sold.
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but I'm actually optimistic about what Toshiba is doing. I wish the price drop would have happened about 6 weeks ago in Dec. of 2007, but the current strategy at lower prices with free 7 HD-DVD's, as low as $120 for HD-A3 from Amazon, the J6P may take the bait. Basically, HD-DVD hardware is now being offered at mass consumer level and this is only way to lure and introduce HDM to the mass consumers with newly purchased HDTV's.
This is like saying the LaserDisc were being offered at mass consumer levels when retailers and individuals started selling players and media at deeply discounted prices.
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PS3 Getting Another Price Cut January 28th
$299.99 USD for a Playstation 3 looks like a steal. Rumors are floating around that this is becoming reality, and before the end of January 2008. Is it possible?
We contacted some of our insiders to get the latest scoop on this rumor and see if it had any fact behind it. We were skeptical, after all the PS3 just received a price-cut in November.
The Playstation 3 IS in fact getting a price-cut. A new model, will retail at $299.99 USD, the announcement will be made January 28, 2008, and the new price will take effect Friday February 29, 2008. There are two main reasons as to why the Playstation 3 is getting this price-cut.
Reason 1: The playstation 3 production costs have decreased tremendously over the past couple of months. What used to cost $800, now cost less than $400.
Reason 2: Time Warner. In exchange for Time Warner's exclusitivity (and an end to the format war), Sony has promised to reduce the price of the Playstation 3. As many of you know the Playstation 3 is equipped with a blu-ray disk drive, and the more the Ps3 sells, the greater the chance of Blu-Ray's success.
We are very excited to bring you these news today.
^ Haha good luck with getting him to shut up. He doesn't get it.
Yeah, might be best to ignore his disinformation routine from here on, as painful to read as that might be.
There are some great motorbikes/cars they use great fuel, make a great big sound, look really cool etc.
but the fact still remains that, despite all thisThey still fall apart so people tend not to buy them.
But some are smitten, and will buy them, and likely end up as something of an expert in how to maintain them.
gee, not unlike most windows users.. uncanny!
I saw a receipt earlier today supposedly from Best Buy. I looked legit.
For $299 I will forego Mass Effect until it goes on the PC platform unless the build quality sucks...or is it the current PS3 40GB? I wonder if the 80GB will drop...
Actually, the PS3 price drop would be a good move by Sony, but we'll see when it happens. Hm... $299 & $399 PS3/Blu-Ray player does sound better, but still need to have fully featured players under $199. Going back on the sideline for cheap combo drive or fully featured combo player..
If they do drop 40GB version by $100, and I would think the 80GB would also drop $100, too.
Actually, the PS3 price drop would be a good move by Sony, but we'll see when it happens. Hm... $299 & $399 PS3/Blu-Ray player does sound better, but still need to have fully featured players under $199. Going back on the sideline for cheap combo drive or fully featured combo player..
Price are dropping rapidly. This latest price drop is not only going to sell a lot of blu ray players, but also move many gamers to the point where the PS3 is looking affordable for them. The combination of MGS4 and a cheap PS3 will probably sell quite a few systems.
If they do drop 40GB version by $100, and I would think the 80GB would also drop $100, too.
Actually, the PS3 price drop would be a good move by Sony, but we'll see when it happens. Hm... $299 & $399 PS3/Blu-Ray player does sound better, but still need to have fully featured players under $199. Going back on the sideline for cheap combo drive or fully featured combo player..
bite, it's beginning to sound as though you wouldn't take a BD player/PS3 if someone gave it to you. Think of all the BD exclusive movies you're missing. Maybe you and marz should make a pact; you'll buy one if he does -- grin.
There're rumors floating around that the 40GB PS3 could drop to $299 very soon!
Is Sony trying to solidify Blu-Ray as the UMD of the PS3? Who'd be willing to buy a dedicated player — that isn't firmware or profile upgradeable via Ethernet — at these prices? Hell, what company would be willing to try and compete with a $299 player that also happens to play games?
Does the PS3 come with a remote, beyond the game controller?
bite, it's beginning to sound as though you wouldn't take a BD player/PS3 if someone gave it to you. Think of all the BD exclusive movies you're missing. Maybe you and marz should make a pact; you'll buy one if he does -- grin.
haha.... I'll pay for shipping if you're kindly offering your Blu-Ray player to me..
It's not that I don't want a Blu-Ray player as I had planned on going neutral to support HDM even way before the Warner's defection. I don't even mind paying for an extra cost for higher end model as long as it comes with full features and being able to play HD-DVD/Blu-Ray discs.
Anyway, since I still need a combo drive for my HTPC to archive all the HDM's on HDD, I would much prefer spending money where it can be used more than just HDM playback. The $299 PS3 still is a poor choice for me as I'm not interested in playing games on the PS3. If possible, $299 for fully featured Standalone Blu-Ray player would tempt me more, even if I don't like buying low end CE.
Does the PS3 come with a remote, beyond the game controller?
It doesn't, but sony does make a killer one. I have it.
It doesn't, but sony does make a killer one. I have it.
Isn't PS3 only compatible with Bluetooth remote made by Sony?... Or are the newer PS3 models compatible with IR programable remotes?..
Isn't PS3 only compatible with Bluetooth remote made by Sony?... Or are the newer PS3 models compatible with IR programable remotes?..
It's compatible with Apple's bluetooth keyboard
Isn't PS3 only compatible with Bluetooth remote made by Sony?... Or are the newer PS3 models compatible with IR programable remotes?..
It's Bluetooth only, and the dimwads at Logitech aren't smart enough to make a Harmony remote that supports it.
Really.... the HDM market size is booming and started to take sales off DVD? This would be a good news, if true.. Is there a sign/press that indicates the mass consumers on the sideline started grabbing Blu-Ray players off the shelf? As you have much faith in the Blu-Ray format, what's still keeping you on the sideline? You're probably most informed Blu-Ray supporting sideliner for last three years(?). Obviously, you still have reservation about the future of Blu-Ray as HDM optical disc format? Or is it because of the mere ~$100 extra cost on the Blu-Ray player..... which the Blu-Ray player price is supposed to be $200?
Once again, wake me up if Bill Hunt predicts when the HDM market is about to explode. I want to take shot of this "big bang" event with my new SLR.
Blu-ray Hardware Sales Pick Up After Warner Announcement
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=883
A new NPD Group report shows that stand-alone Blu-ray player sales benefited greatly from the recent announcement that Warner would be going Blu-ray exclusive. The first week of January, before Warner made their announcement, there was a nearly 50-50 split between Blu-ray and HD DVD standalone players. The following week, after the announcement, Blu-ray players grabbed 93% of the market.
On the whole, December sales data showed that Blu-ray players held 60% of the standalone market, despite much cheaper players from the HD DVD camp. Looking at only the first two weeks of January, Blu-ray already has a nearly 70% market share which is sure to increase as the month continues and consumers continue to chose Blu-ray over its rival format.
There ya go bite. And NO, lets make it clear, I HAVE NO RESERVATIONS "about the future of Blu-Ray as HDM optical disc format." If I could, I'd buy one--a Blu-ray player--up in a second. We've been through this bud. For a guy so interested in my finances and/or purchases, you tend to forget a lot of things--like my recent purchase of a $37,000 Enclave, that basically trumps my chances of getting a Blu-ray player for a while. Sorry, but toys and gadgets take a back seat to certain liabilities ones have.
So, no, it certainly isn't an issue in regards to confidence in a winner. That much is certain---that Blu-ray has won and is on its way to mass consumption. So obviously, you know my current situation just about as much as you know about the current state of affairs of the format war--not much.
Blu-ray Hardware Sales Pick Up After Warner Announcement
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=883
There ya go bite. And NO, lets make it clear, I HAVE NO RESERVATIONS "about the future of Blu-Ray as HDM optical disc format." If I could, I'd buy one--a Blu-ray player--up in a second. We've been through this bud. For a guy so interested in my finances and/or purchases, you tend to forget a lot of things--like my recent purchase of a $37,000 Enclave, that basically trumps my chances of getting a Blu-ray player for a while. Sorry, but toys and gadgets take a back seat to certain liabilities ones have.
So, no, it certainly isn't an issue in regards to confidence in a winner. That much is certain---that Blu-ray has won and is on its way to mass consumption. So obviously, you know my current situation just about as much as you know about the current state of affairs of the format war--not much.
The Ratio (or %) of 10:1 can be 10 unit to 1 or 10 million to 1 million.... but what are the actual units being moved? Are you that naive not knowing what unit ratio means vs. the real unit volumes? How does your stats show there is increase in demand of unit volume for HDM(Blu-Ray) players?
BTW, is there a stat after Toshiba had lowered retail prices at $149, $199, and $299 of their current units? The old news you've been quoting over and over again is outdated as Toshiba had announced new prices after the announcement of Warner's plan to defect HD-DVD in June of 2008.
And as much as you would like to believe Blu-Ray had won, it is still a wishful thinking of a Blu-Ray fanboy. We've heard Sony claiming victory way too many times since the begining of 2007 and still there isn't a clear winner. In a niche market like the current HDM market, which consist of less than 1% of the DVD market, there is no such a winner (Was there a winner over SACD vs. DVD-A?). There are only losers.... small or big...... unless one of the HDM optical format can win over the DVD's. As I said before, the current marketing movement of Blu-Ray is heading right into another niche technology at best. Hence, even if Blu-Ray may win over HD-DVD, it is still a loser. Perhaps, even bigger loser than HD-DVD. The new strategy from Toshiba started going after DVD hardware market directly as upconverting/HD-DVD player at the price point and this may actually reach the mass consumers quicker than blu-ray ever will.
I may be delusional still supporting HD-DVD, but I'm actually optimistic about what Toshiba is doing. I wish the price drop would have happened about 6 weeks ago in Dec. of 2007, but the current strategy at lower prices with free 7 HD-DVD's, as low as $120 for HD-A3 from Amazon, the J6P may take the bait. Basically, HD-DVD hardware is now being offered at mass consumer level and this is only way to lure and introduce HDM to the mass consumers with newly purchased HDTV's.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks, I needed that.
Is Sony trying to solidify Blu-Ray as the UMD of the PS3? Who'd be willing to buy a dedicated player ? that isn't firmware or profile upgradeable via Ethernet ? at these prices? Hell, what company would be willing to try and compete with a $299 player that also happens to play games?
Does the PS3 come with a remote, beyond the game controller?
What consumer would buy a player that only plays 25% of the high def movies available?
And as much as you would like to believe Blu-Ray had won, it is still a wishful thinking of a Blu-Ray fanboy. We've heard Sony claiming victory way too many times since the begining of 2007 and still there isn't a clear winner.
Ok, I'll "bite" in SIMPLE terms how would BD "WIN" the Hi-def format "war" by your reckoning?
All movie Studios go Blu?
Toshiba starts selling BD players? or even Dual format.
or something else more convoluted that you will likely come up with?
The challenge here is for you to keep it simple
And as much as you would like to believe Blu-Ray had won, it is still a wishful thinking of a Blu-Ray fanboy. We've heard Sony claiming victory way too many times since the begining of 2007 and still there isn't a clear winner.
You just hang on there buddy. Oh, and this go around its mass media declaring victory for Blu-Ray...not just Digital Bits and Sony.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/te...gin&oref=login
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08012/848675-96.stm
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/reeli...y-wins-th.html
The new strategy from Toshiba started going after DVD hardware market directly as upconverting/HD-DVD player at the price point and this may actually reach the mass consumers quicker than blu-ray ever will.
Yes, because we can completely discount Sony's strategy for the PS3 and the rumored price drops to accomodate Warner...not to mention the millions of PS3s already sold.
but I'm actually optimistic about what Toshiba is doing. I wish the price drop would have happened about 6 weeks ago in Dec. of 2007, but the current strategy at lower prices with free 7 HD-DVD's, as low as $120 for HD-A3 from Amazon, the J6P may take the bait. Basically, HD-DVD hardware is now being offered at mass consumer level and this is only way to lure and introduce HDM to the mass consumers with newly purchased HDTV's.
This is like saying the LaserDisc were being offered at mass consumer levels when retailers and individuals started selling players and media at deeply discounted prices.
Mkay. You can believe that if you like.