Apple introduces 16GB iPhone, 32GB iPod touch models

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  • Reply 121 of 225
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    Originally Posted by YTV View Post


    Not related to the iPhone since its ATT. But if your on Sprint or Verizon 3G is available in most areas.



    I believe that all the carriers share their 3g with each other. Exact coverage by each carrier is a little convoluted, but I suspect that it is a reflection of where they have services already available.



    Perhaps a look at ATT and compare the others by specfic regions would help determine who is best and where. http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/
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  • Reply 122 of 225
    ytvytv Posts: 109member
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    I believe that all the carriers share their 3g with each other. Exact coverage by each carrier is a little convoluted, but I suspect that it is a reflection of where they have services already available.



    Perhaps a look at ATT and compare the others by specfic regions would help determine who is best and where. http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/



    Im sorry but you are mis-informed. All carriers have their own networks. I have no idea what goes on between ATT and Tmobile, but I know that Sprint has roaming agreements with Alltel to use their 3G network where Sprint does not have native coverage. Also Verizons native coverage is pretty good from what I have heard. Virtually everywhere I travel I have 3G access with Sprint in the US.
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  • Reply 123 of 225
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    Hopefully this means a 32GB/3G for the next iPhone refresh.
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  • Reply 124 of 225
    zengazenga Posts: 267member
    Any word on what the version is on those new iPhones?

    SDK will be out this month right? No update?

    I Jailbreaked my iPhone but haven´t been able to activate it...



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  • Reply 125 of 225
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    Originally Posted by YTV View Post


    Im sorry but you are mis-informed. All carriers have their own networks. I have no idea what goes on between ATT and Tmobile, but I know that Sprint has roaming agreements with Alltel to use their 3G network where Sprint does not have native coverage. Also Verizons native coverage is pretty good from what I have heard. Virtually everywhere I travel I have 3G access with Sprint in the US.



    Yes they have their own networks, but not the towers which they lease from tower companies such as American Tower, Crown Castle International (CCI), and SBA Communications (SBAC), etc., who in turn lease their towers to all the cell phone companies.



    Obviously, the bigger the cell phone company, the greater the number of towers they manage in their respective network.



    http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/American_Tower_(AMT)
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  • Reply 126 of 225
    Does anybody know why $1 for a iPod is less worth than $1 for a Mac.

    When I buy a iPod 32GB in the US I have to pay $499, when I do the same in the Austrian store I have to pay ?459. But when I buy a Mac mini (base configuration) in the US I have to pay $599, in the Austrian store I have to pay ?599.

    So for the iPod the ratio is: $1=?0,90

    for the Mac the ratio is : $1=?1

    As I am in the market for a Mac and not a iPod, this isn't nice!

    For the difference in the ratio I could even buy a Apple mouse and keyboard for the mini
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  • Reply 127 of 225
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    Does anybody know why $1 for a iPod is less worth than $1 for a Mac.

    When I buy a iPod 32GB in the US I have to pay $499, when I do the same in the Austrian store I have to pay €459. But when I buy a Mac mini (base configuration) in the US I have to pay $599, in the Austrian store I have to pay €599.

    So for the iPod the ratio is: $1=€0,90

    for the Mac the ratio is : $1=€1

    As I am in the market for a Mac and not a iPod, this isn't nice!

    For the difference in the ratio I could even buy a Apple mouse and keyboard for the mini



    Because you don't deserve it!



    What?



    That's right. You made your bed, or at least your parents did, and now you have to sleep in it.



    First of all, it seems to reason that an American product would be priced less in the US than in another country. Packaging, distribution, translation, legal fees, marketing, promotion, advertising, etc., done under US standards and regulations vs any incremental costs that may be applied by foreign custom agencies, brokers and transportation organizations. These are just a few of the handful of factors that may play a part in the final consideration.



    Don't forget the monetary fluctuations and the cost of goods, i.e., parts, etc., at the time of development, production and distribution contribute to the final pricing.



    Other important considerations may include internal market structures factored by cost of living, salaries, market volume and dynamics, and even the size of the package and its affect on the environment.



    The list goes on. However, keep in mind, that there may be a regional surcharge placed on an item simply by the category it is placed in. In some countries there is a surtax on "music" players, or a part or parts of it. Note that such could cause an incremental costs for manpower, legal and packaging, etc. Albeit small but it all adds up.



    Oh, don't forget product support.



    And lastly, and probably it may simply just be where you live. That's the way they do it. It just belies everything. And that's the bed you made and now you have to sleep in it.



    By the way, we are, sort to speak, all in the same bed.
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  • Reply 128 of 225
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    The lower priced chips drop in price much less than the higher priced chips do.



    Look at older RAM. You will notice that the older chips, per capacity, can actuslly cost more than the newer higher capacity chips.



    I suspect that Apple will either lower the price on the older models later, or discontinue them when the price on the larger memory drops enough.



    By not trying to drop the price on the lower cap models now, they also partly subsidize the price of the newer models, encouraging people to buy them instead, which will happen in a good number of instances.



    This is all standard business practice.



    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Apple's usual business model was that 6 months after releasing a product they would offer more for less. Not more for more. There was never a subsidize and then drop.
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  • Reply 129 of 225
    ytvytv Posts: 109member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post


    Yes they have their own networks, but not the towers which they lease from tower companies such as American Tower, Crown Castle International (CCI), and SBA Communications (SBAC), etc., who in turn lease their towers to all the cell phone companies.



    Obviously, the bigger the cell phone company, the greater the number of towers they manage in their respective network.



    http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/American_Tower_(AMT)



    None of that changes the fact that each indivdual carrier has their own 3g network. It is NOT 1 big network that all carriers share.
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  • Reply 130 of 225
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    Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post


    Because you don't deserve it!



    What?



    That's right. You made your bed, or at least your parents did, and now you have to sleep in it.



    First of all, it seems to reason that an American product would be priced less in the US than in another country. Packaging, distribution, translation, legal fees, marketing, promotion, advertising, etc., done under US standards and regulations vs any incremental costs that may be applied by foreign custom agencies, brokers and transportation organizations. These are just a few of the handful of factors that may play a part in the final consideration.



    Don't forget the monetary fluctuations and the cost of goods, i.e., parts, etc., at the time of development, production and distribution contribute to the final pricing.



    Other important considerations may include internal market structures factored by cost of living, salaries, market volume and dynamics, and even the size of the package and its affect on the environment.



    The list goes on. However, keep in mind, that there may be a regional surcharge placed on an item simply by the category it is placed in. In some countries there is a surtax on "music" players, or a part or parts of it. Note that such could cause an incremental costs for manpower, legal and packaging, etc. Albeit small but it all adds up.



    Oh, don't forget product support.



    And lastly, and probably it may simply just be where you live. That's the way they do it. It just belies everything. And that's the bed you made and now you have to sleep in it.



    By the way, we are, sort to speak, all in the same bed.



    It just puzzled me that there is such a big difference in their own product line. As you correctly said music players have a surcharge here, but computers don't.

    Anyway regularly I can stand the difference between the US and Europe (I can't change it anyway), but this time I couldn't hold it back and I had to let it go.
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  • Reply 131 of 225
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Originally Posted by aiolos View Post


    I'm just as observant as you are, thanks. I just wanted them the increase the size and keep the price the same, like they tend to do with some updates.



    Yeah but they didn't raise the price, they just didn't lower it. Existing model is the same price, you said they rose the price.. they didn't, they merely added a more expensive "newer" model.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aiolos View Post


    Gah, why did they have to raise the price 100 bucks, faaaaaaaaaaaack.



    That is why I said you are not very observant, you aren't.
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  • Reply 132 of 225
    irelandireland Posts: 17,802member
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    Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post


    Hopefully this means a 32GB/3G for the next iPhone refresh.



    If it doesn't I think I'll join in the group of millions who will kick Jobs in the balls.



    Furthermore I think they should seriously consider adding GPS too, they may as well put that Garmin phone out of business before it gets released
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  • Reply 133 of 225
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Yeah but they didn't raise the price, they just didn't lower it. Existing model is the same price, you said they rose the price.. they didn't, they merely added a more expensive "newer" model.



    I wonder if the 3G iPhone at these current capacities will be lowered in price. I think the 8 and 16GB models probably will, if they decide to keep the 8GB version.
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  • Reply 134 of 225
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    IFurthermore I think they should seriously consider adding GPS too, they may as well put that Garmin phone out of business before it gets released



    No GPS for me. I have a stand alone unit for that. The Google Maps locator is good enough for a phone. I don't need an costly chips that will add bulk to the iPhone and drain the battery in 30 minutes when it's on.
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  • Reply 135 of 225
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    Originally Posted by copeland View Post


    It just puzzled me that there is such a big difference in their own product line. As you correctly said music players have a surcharge here, but computers don't.

    Anyway regularly I can stand the difference between the US and Europe (I can't change it anyway), but this time I couldn't hold it back and I had to let it go.



    Yes, but I bet we would pay a heck of a premium for a few Eierschwammerls here. But then, we are big on Campbell's Mushroom soup.
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  • Reply 136 of 225
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    Originally Posted by YTV View Post


    None of that changes the fact that each indivdual carrier has their own 3g network. It is NOT 1 big network that all carriers share.



    Isn't that what I said?
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  • Reply 137 of 225
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Furthermore I think they should seriously consider adding GPS too, they may as well put that Garmin phone out of business before it gets released



    And change to a 2-3 megapixel camera please. There is a major difference in quality from 1.3.
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  • Reply 138 of 225
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    And change to a 2-3 megapixel camera please. There is a major difference in quality from 1.3.



    Then you're in luck, it already has a 2.0MP camera.
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  • Reply 139 of 225
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Then you're in luck, it already has a 2.0MP camera.



    Thank you for the info. It's the MacBookPro's iSight I was thinking- oops!
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  • Reply 140 of 225
    ytvytv Posts: 109member
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    Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post


    Isn't that what I said?



    No that is not what you said.



    This is what you said:



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post


    I believe that all the carriers share their 3g with each other.



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