Before Palm or Windows Mobile even existed there was the Newton, the iPhone had it's roots many years ago.
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Originally Posted by nikon133
Palm phones - and Treo phones before them, much as I recall, were always touch screen. They started appearing back in 2002. Also some Windows mobile devices, I think. Touch screen PDAs are around from 1998, if not longer.
Of course they were not as advanced as iPhone's touch screen, but they were around way before...
Yes- 6 months supposedly after its release,it goes to Verizon. Did Palm make a CDMA version as well?
I don't know if someone answered you, but Sprint and Verizon are CDMA. Should be a snap for Palm to make a version for Verizon...probably silver like the Verizon 8800 series BlackBerry.
Bell Canada is also getting the Pre and they are CDMA (for now until the HSPA network goes live this fall)
This is multitasking to you? On the pre you can listen to your iPod while looking up directions and browsing on the web and flipping through apps to see if I got the email you were waiting for. On the iPhone of u get an address in an email and you look up directions then go back to mail app to double check it has to load again, then u go back to the maps app and u miss your turn because that has to load again. iPhone sucks
Actually, iPhone caches the current state of the app so you don't have to reload an e-mail or map to resume use. Have you ever actually used one?
Some of you must some serious self-esteem issues if you need to defend the box of wires you bought (or are planning to buy) with so much rage. Calm down.
Sprint seems to be going in another direction entirely, which isn't a good thing for them. If they continue on that path, they will be shut out of most phones that they would want and need.
If Sprint's cut of wimax pans out fruit you might see them going with VOIP phones and not spending the $$$ on a 4G build out. I call it only a 1 in 10 shot though.
If Sprint's cut of wimax pans out fruit you might see them going with VOIP phones and not spending the $$$ on a 4G build out. I call it only a 1 in 10 shot though.
I had a heavy investment in that with Clearwire for a while. I almost lost a LOT on that, but just about broke even.
We read so much about wimax, both good and bad. I'm not so sure if Sprint waited too long. You might remember that they cut their investment in Clearwire, and announced that they were dropping the technology. Then almost a year later, they decided to jump back in. But they took baby steps. I'm also not sure if Intel has maintained their investment, as I've stopped following the whole mess.
...for the 5 minutes before the battery goes dead. Until there is some massive breakthrough in battery life or power consumption, push notification is a better model.
Palm claim the OS is lighter weight and so will use less battery.
It certainly sounds like an interesting device and could be the first real iPhone beater.
This whole arguement is so worthless. They compare iPhone 3g to the palm pre. Really?? Pre is better. Honestly I never liked either company but I got and iPhone and love it. That said. The pre is all in all better hardware wise. But. The iPhone 3g is 2 years old. Congrats palm. Only took 2 damn years. I also think apple has slowed that too much. I hope the have a few BA phones coming out. But the pre is new. The iPhone is 2 years old. The 3g was just added. Gps too but all of it was around before. We need the new iPhone and the pre to come out. Then we can argue. I think it's so stupid to compare the two. They are differnt. I like the keyboard but sees too big so I'm out on that one. The wireless charging. If I could be like 5ft away and be using it. It'd be awesome. Great concept but it's too early. I think that it only has 8gb is retarded. I'd like to see the battery life. I think the pre only makes palm look the same as all the other phones. The rebate?? Someone said they'd rather get 100 from palm than 0 from apple. What kind of arguement is that?????? I hate rebates. Useless trouble time and money. Taxes. I love my iPhone but I think it's worthless it took apple so long to get landscape keyboard all over.
Anyone know if iPhone 3.0 will send pictures via Bluetooth??
I had a heavy investment in that with Clearwire for a while. I almost lost a LOT on that, but just about broke even.
BTW, thanks for that </sarcasm>
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Originally Posted by kotatsu
Palm claim the OS is lighter weight and so will use less battery.
It certainly sounds like an interesting device and could be the first real iPhone beater.
Based on all the info I?ve read on WebOS it will be lighter, but will also be more limited in functionality because of the nature of the OS. The question is, will it satisfy the needs of enough users to be a win for Sprint and Palm?
Based on all the info I?ve read on WebOS it will be lighter, but will also be more limited in functionality because of the nature of the OS. The question is, will it satisfy the needs of enough users to be a win for Sprint and Palm?
We can't imagine how lightweight the operating system should be to noticeably change the power consumption.
If Sprint hadn't unexpectedly withdrawn its investment and support after having played it up so much, we would have been fine. After all, we can't go by unexpected developments. Then they had second thoughts, and came back in. Who expected that either? Clearwire's stock had been moving up very nicely, and after the big drop was creeping back to the levels we had bought it at. If you didn't sell too quickly, you would have been at about the place you started in.
You can only go on what you know, and by what seems likely. What Sprint did wasn't likely, and proving that, they had those second thoughts. Now, it seems, they're basing their entire strategy on it.
But now it also seems to be too late. Sprint went from a growing company when they were first involved with this, to a company that's in danger of going under and having the parts sold off.
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Based on all the info I’ve read on WebOS it will be lighter, but will also be more limited in functionality because of the nature of the OS. The question is, will it satisfy the needs of enough users to be a win for Sprint and Palm?
like with all other smartphones, this will be compared to what the iPhone can do. If this came out before the 3G, and OS 2, it would be the new standard that the iPhone would have had to match and better.
But it's the other way around. If iPhone apps can do things these can't, then that's a big problem. If iPhone apps can be bigger, and more complex, such as with games, then that's a big problem.
Owners of the Pre will be looking at what comes out for it, and whether it matches what is coming out on the iPhone.
They also have a lot of catching up to do. I don't think the emulation is going to be quite as good as some are assuming it will be. Older apps have a lot of reliance on the hardware. I assume, from what we're learning about the Pre and WebOS, that much of that will be abstracted. It's like Apple's emulators. Something has to give.
If Sprint's cut of wimax pans out fruit you might see them going with VOIP phones and not spending the $$$ on a 4G build out. I call it only a 1 in 10 shot though.
It certainly sounds like an interesting device and could be the first real iPhone beater.
Wow, never heard that before... oh wait, I did, for every single new phone since the iPhone was released.
I'm not some fanboi, competition is good and Apple is a fierce competitor - a real iPhone killer would just make the iPhone that much better. But so far we've seen the same parade of hopes and failures as the iPod before.
If Sprint hadn't unexpectedly withdrawn its investment and support after having played it up so much, we would have been fine.
Balogna. WiMax is dead, and it has been since LTE came down the pipe. This is the dead cat bounce.
LTE offers higher speed, faster inter-tower switching, was designed for cells from the start, and has a long string of backward compatibility all the way down to the original GSM. WiMax is slower, was originally designed for static last-mile hauling to fixed in-house points, and has zero backward compatibility. Everyone in the world is already well along their LTE rollout plans, exactly one carrier in the world is rolling out WiMax.
This means that, as a cell network, LTE is going to be supported by every handset in the world, and WiMax by... anyone at all? Really, you'd have to be a moron to invest in this tech. Which says, to me, a whole lot about Sprint's desperation.
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Palm phones - and Treo phones before them, much as I recall, were always touch screen. They started appearing back in 2002. Also some Windows mobile devices, I think. Touch screen PDAs are around from 1998, if not longer.
Of course they were not as advanced as iPhone's touch screen, but they were around way before...
Yes- 6 months supposedly after its release,it goes to Verizon. Did Palm make a CDMA version as well?
I don't know if someone answered you, but Sprint and Verizon are CDMA. Should be a snap for Palm to make a version for Verizon...probably silver like the Verizon 8800 series BlackBerry.
Bell Canada is also getting the Pre and they are CDMA (for now until the HSPA network goes live this fall)
This is multitasking to you? On the pre you can listen to your iPod while looking up directions and browsing on the web and flipping through apps to see if I got the email you were waiting for. On the iPhone of u get an address in an email and you look up directions then go back to mail app to double check it has to load again, then u go back to the maps app and u miss your turn because that has to load again. iPhone sucks
Actually, iPhone caches the current state of the app so you don't have to reload an e-mail or map to resume use. Have you ever actually used one?
Some of you must some serious self-esteem issues if you need to defend the box of wires you bought (or are planning to buy) with so much rage. Calm down.
Sprint seems to be going in another direction entirely, which isn't a good thing for them. If they continue on that path, they will be shut out of most phones that they would want and need.
If Sprint's cut of wimax pans out fruit you might see them going with VOIP phones and not spending the $$$ on a 4G build out. I call it only a 1 in 10 shot though.
If Sprint's cut of wimax pans out fruit you might see them going with VOIP phones and not spending the $$$ on a 4G build out. I call it only a 1 in 10 shot though.
I had a heavy investment in that with Clearwire for a while. I almost lost a LOT on that, but just about broke even.
We read so much about wimax, both good and bad. I'm not so sure if Sprint waited too long. You might remember that they cut their investment in Clearwire, and announced that they were dropping the technology. Then almost a year later, they decided to jump back in. But they took baby steps. I'm also not sure if Intel has maintained their investment, as I've stopped following the whole mess.
...for the 5 minutes before the battery goes dead. Until there is some massive breakthrough in battery life or power consumption, push notification is a better model.
Palm claim the OS is lighter weight and so will use less battery.
It certainly sounds like an interesting device and could be the first real iPhone beater.
Anyone know if iPhone 3.0 will send pictures via Bluetooth??
I had a heavy investment in that with Clearwire for a while. I almost lost a LOT on that, but just about broke even.
BTW, thanks for that </sarcasm>
Palm claim the OS is lighter weight and so will use less battery.
It certainly sounds like an interesting device and could be the first real iPhone beater.
Based on all the info I?ve read on WebOS it will be lighter, but will also be more limited in functionality because of the nature of the OS. The question is, will it satisfy the needs of enough users to be a win for Sprint and Palm?
Based on all the info I?ve read on WebOS it will be lighter, but will also be more limited in functionality because of the nature of the OS. The question is, will it satisfy the needs of enough users to be a win for Sprint and Palm?
We can't imagine how lightweight the operating system should be to noticeably change the power consumption.
(don't get furious, no offence
We can't imagine how lightweight the operating system should be to noticeably change the power consumption.
(don't get furious, no offence
Sure we can. Put your iPhone on a scale and weigh it. The OS is very heavy. Palm in .2 ounces lighter, that is because of the lightweight OS.
Sure we can. Put your iPhone on a scale and weigh it. The OS is very heavy. Palm in .2 ounces lighter, that is because of the lightweight OS.
Indeed.
BTW, thanks for that </sarcasm>
If Sprint hadn't unexpectedly withdrawn its investment and support after having played it up so much, we would have been fine. After all, we can't go by unexpected developments. Then they had second thoughts, and came back in. Who expected that either? Clearwire's stock had been moving up very nicely, and after the big drop was creeping back to the levels we had bought it at. If you didn't sell too quickly, you would have been at about the place you started in.
You can only go on what you know, and by what seems likely. What Sprint did wasn't likely, and proving that, they had those second thoughts. Now, it seems, they're basing their entire strategy on it.
But now it also seems to be too late. Sprint went from a growing company when they were first involved with this, to a company that's in danger of going under and having the parts sold off.
Based on all the info I’ve read on WebOS it will be lighter, but will also be more limited in functionality because of the nature of the OS. The question is, will it satisfy the needs of enough users to be a win for Sprint and Palm?
like with all other smartphones, this will be compared to what the iPhone can do. If this came out before the 3G, and OS 2, it would be the new standard that the iPhone would have had to match and better.
But it's the other way around. If iPhone apps can do things these can't, then that's a big problem. If iPhone apps can be bigger, and more complex, such as with games, then that's a big problem.
Owners of the Pre will be looking at what comes out for it, and whether it matches what is coming out on the iPhone.
They also have a lot of catching up to do. I don't think the emulation is going to be quite as good as some are assuming it will be. Older apps have a lot of reliance on the hardware. I assume, from what we're learning about the Pre and WebOS, that much of that will be abstracted. It's like Apple's emulators. Something has to give.
Sure we can. Put your iPhone on a scale and weigh it. The OS is very heavy. Palm in .2 ounces lighter, that is because of the lightweight OS.
Heh! I was thinking the same thing.
If Sprint's cut of wimax pans out fruit you might see them going with VOIP phones and not spending the $$$ on a 4G build out. I call it only a 1 in 10 shot though.
WiMax?! *chuckle*
Stick a fork in it.
Maury
It certainly sounds like an interesting device and could be the first real iPhone beater.
Wow, never heard that before... oh wait, I did, for every single new phone since the iPhone was released.
I'm not some fanboi, competition is good and Apple is a fierce competitor - a real iPhone killer would just make the iPhone that much better. But so far we've seen the same parade of hopes and failures as the iPod before.
Maury
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...omments/21174/
Why so childish whim to kill?
If Sprint hadn't unexpectedly withdrawn its investment and support after having played it up so much, we would have been fine.
Balogna. WiMax is dead, and it has been since LTE came down the pipe. This is the dead cat bounce.
LTE offers higher speed, faster inter-tower switching, was designed for cells from the start, and has a long string of backward compatibility all the way down to the original GSM. WiMax is slower, was originally designed for static last-mile hauling to fixed in-house points, and has zero backward compatibility. Everyone in the world is already well along their LTE rollout plans, exactly one carrier in the world is rolling out WiMax.
This means that, as a cell network, LTE is going to be supported by every handset in the world, and WiMax by... anyone at all? Really, you'd have to be a moron to invest in this tech. Which says, to me, a whole lot about Sprint's desperation.
Maury