I don't know why this isn't brought up more. The iPhone is a truly large phone. My current phone is 10 x 45 x 110 mm. My next phone is about the same dimensions and has 3 band HSPA, GPS, BT, WiFI, FM, VOIP, VGA video camera and a huge battery. Now I like to wear tight jeans, as you'll all be pleased to know, and even I don't notice my phone my jeans, except when I sit down.
The iPhone is no bigger than most smartphones, and smaller than some.
We're all very happy to know that you think you're sexy.
That's ridiculous. (1) How often do you take 22-hour flights? (2) Even if/when you do, and assuming an aggressive 6 hours of battery life, don't you, according to your own argument, have to carry three extra batteries? (3) Why not just get an adapter for lounges, etc, since after all, you'll need it for your charger anyway, once you get to that country (or in transit)? (4) Why not just choose an airline that provides power outlets? (5) Why not just buy an external battery pack?
You don't travel do you? Everything is inconvenient when you travel. Got the charger in you carry on? What you stored your carry on? Oh you don't have the right physical adaptor? You can't find a powerpoint? I mean there are power points on the streets of any big city, right? But lets say you did, then you have to stand by the wall looking like an idiot for 30 minutes. And you're always on time for your flights and they arrive early mostly so you don't have to get into town to meet whoever or do whatever or catch your next flight.
But hell, you can charge on your plane. The new, modern plane that actually has power ports and you have a compatible cable. And that you've spent 3 to 4 times the cost of an economy ticket so you can fly business class, that's around $3000 more, to solve a $30 problem. And I fly often enough for it to be a problem.
Yes, I carry 3 actual batteries with me. They weigh about an ounce each. It's such a strain.
Get in line behind all the other Apple apologists making fools of themselves in this forum.
There are two small screws at the bottom of the case of the iPhone (and I imagine of the Touch as well). Remove the screws, and you can replace the non-soldered-in battery for a more powerful one when one comes out. These batteries, available from several vendors when they come out, are also much cheaper than the external batteries from companies like Palm for their own phones.
It takes a short time to do, and you only have to do it once as the batteries last a long time these days.
Thank you. My contract ends in September, and I certainly will.
It's not so simple in Apple's case. You gotta be Apple certified. It discourages vendors.
P.S. This one is mighty: "1600mAh Replacement Battery Pack for Apple iPhone 3G"
And I suppose that you have 4-5 extra batteries that you charge-up in advance for your Nokia so you can last a full 3 days without plugging in to the wall? You know as well as everyone else that there are power-outlets everywhere throughout a journey (even on some airplanes -- and certainly those that are used for long flights). How are extra internal batteries any different than extra external batteries? I would think that the external pack (which would get much longer battery-life than an internal battery) would be the perfect solution for a long trip. When I went to Europe a number of years ago, I bought an external battery for my 1Gen iPod Shuffle into which I could pop AAA batteries. How much better a solution was that than being able to access the internal battery to swap it out?
More junk to carry that is much bigger and heavier than extra internal batteries. It's very inefficient charging one battery from another, much of the power is lost in heat.
But the larger point is, why is having a sealed battery so inconvenient? What was benefit of it again? And I carry 3 batteries, not 4 or 5, they seem to last for a trip of 48 to 60 hours.
The iPhone is no bigger than most smartphones, and smaller than some.
We're all very happy to know that you think you're sexy.
No, its much bigger. The Nokia E55 is much smaller that an iPhone. Doesn't the fact that you think such a basic, concrete fact is not true cause you to question your attitude toward the iPhone, that maybe, it's a little irrational?
That's ridiculous. (1) How often do you take 22-hour flights? (2) Even if/when you do, and assuming an aggressive 6 hours of battery life, don't you, according to your own argument, have to carry three extra batteries? (3) Why not just get an adapter for lounges, etc, since after all, you'll need it for your charger anyway, once you get to that country (or in transit)? (4) Why not just choose an airline that provides power outlets? (5) Why not just buy an external battery pack?
I find that the best solution for those long trips without a a power cable is my notebook?s battery. When my iPhone gets low I just plug it into my notebook via the 30-pin-to-USB cable and I get many, many charges off my MB?s battery.
The problem with Merdhead?s example is thatwhen you are waiting for flights/buses/trains you are often without many outlet choices. You may be waiting for others to finish up of have to go sit in some out of the way area to charge. I bring a Monster travel power strip that has 4 outlets on it. I can charge up my MacBook, my iPhone and my external iPhone battery at once while still having a forth for my digital camera or for the person I may ask to remove their plug so I plug in my power strip.
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Originally Posted by merdhead
I don't know why this isn't brought up more. The iPhone is a truly large phone. My current phone is 10 x 45 x 110 mm. My next phone is about the same dimensions and has 3 band HSPA, GPS, BT, WiFI, FM, VOIP, VGA video camera and a huge battery. Now I like to wear tight jeans, as you'll all be pleased to know, and even I don't notice my phone my jeans, except when I sit down.
What kind of phone do you currently have? What phone will be your next one? I ask because for a smartphone with a 3? plus display the iPhone is not large at all.
You haven't shown the advantage of having several rechargeable batteries as opposed to external ones. None!
Don't be childish here. If you have nothing useful to say, don't bother.
You're either being silly or you're delusional:
Being able to use your phone versus not being able to use your phone. Given that you cannot recharge, which is a common reality when you travel. Saying that you can recharge your iPhone is just not practical.
I find that the best solution for those long trips without a a power cable is my notebook’s battery. When my iPhone gets low I just plug it into my notebook via the 30-pin-to-USB cable and I get many, many charges off my MB’s battery.
The problem with Merdhead’s example is thatwhen you are waiting for flights/buses/trains you are often without many outlet choices. You may be waiting for others to finish up of have to go sit in some out of the way area to charge. I bring a Monster travel power strip that has 4 outlets on it. I can charge up my MacBook, my iPhone and my external iPhone battery at once while still having a forth for my digital camera or for the person I may ask to remove their plug so I plug in my power strip.
What kind of phone do you currently have? What phone will be your next one? I ask because for a smartphone with a 3” plus display the iPhone is not large at all.
The phone I'm getting is a Nokia E55. I wouldn't say that the iPhone is large for what it is, as you say, but it's a large phone in absolute terms. Having a small phone is very important if you don't have a handbag. And I don't have a handbag.
I might add that I travel only with hand luggage, even internationaly. It make a huge difference, but it means that anything you take with you is dead weight on your shoulder.
The phone I'm getting is a Nokia E55. I wouldn't say that the iPhone is large for what it is, as you say, but it's a large phone in absolute terms. Having a small phone is very important if you don't have a handbag. And I don't have a handbag.
I might add that I travel only with hand luggage, even internationaly. It make a huge difference, but it means that anything you take with you is dead weight on your shoulder.
Fair enough, but by that measure even your E55 is too large for some people, especially thought that don?t want to be tied to the internet constantly.
If you check the Nokia N97 with a 3.5? display the size and weight are more than iPhone. Though in Nokia?s defense, the aspect ratio on the N97 means that the area of the 16:9 display is larger than the iPhone?s 3:2 display ratio.
You don't travel do you? Everything is inconvenient when you travel. Got the charger in you carry on? What you stored your carry on? Oh you don't have the right physical adaptor? You can't find a powerpoint? I mean there are power points on the streets of any big city, right? But lets say you did, then you have to stand by the wall looking like an idiot for 30 minutes. And you're always on time for your flights and they arrive early mostly so you don't have to get into town to meet whoever or do whatever or catch your next flight.
But hell, you can charge on your plane. The new, modern plane that actually has power ports and you have a compatible cable. And that you've spent 3 to 4 times the cost of an economy ticket so you can fly business class, that's around $3000 more, to solve a $30 problem. And I fly often enough for it to be a problem.
Yes, I carry 3 actual batteries with me. They weigh about an ounce each. It's such a strain.
Get in line behind all the other Apple apologists making fools of themselves in this forum.
That's still not an answer.
You can do the same with the external units. They aren't much bigger, or heavier, cost about the same, or less, and they're less hassle.
You can do the same with the external units. They aren't much bigger, or heavier, cost about the same, or less, and they're less hassle.
And, as previously mentioned over and over, one slightly larger and cheaper external can do the charge the same amount as several internals without needing to turn off the phone and take it apart. Plus, on a plane someone might think you are making a bomb and jump you.
Being able to use your phone versus not being able to use your phone. Given that you cannot recharge, which is a common reality when you travel. Saying that you can recharge your iPhone is just not practical.
You're the one here who isn't making any sense. You're thinking that your solution is better when it isn't.
Don't make the mistake to think that people who like the iPhone and who aren't having problems with it are fanboys or not thinking properly.
You're making up problems that exist for either an internal battery that can be replaced, or one that can use an external model. The external models do have the advantage of not requiring you to turn off your apps and phone, and they do recharge the battery pretty quickly, while allowing the use of the phone meanwhile.
For normal people, that is, people who don't make constant 22 hour flights, in other words 99.9999% of the population, the lack of an external battery is no problem at all.
I've had several smartphones with replaceable batteries, and never needed to use them. It's very rare that people do that.
This is something that you refuse to understand.
So don't get all emo on us while saying the we're the ones who are.
You don't like the phone, and that's fine. Just say so and leave it at that. But don't make up an issue that doesn't exist for the vast majority of users.
Why am I even talking to a guy that calls himself "shithead?"
As mel said, you have not demonstrated that internal batteries are superior to external batteries for long flights. Outlets are not scarce -- not in airports and not on airplanes (even in coach). Anyone who travels a lot to foreign countries has adapters for different outlet types. I believe that the current iPhone has a 1500 mAh battery; you can find external batteries that are anywhere from 3200 mAh to 5000 mAh, and some can be loaded with AAs. So your 3 replaceable internal batteries would be substituted for one external battery.
We can all agree that if the iPhone had a battery that was capable of 24 hours of video and/or talk that this would be best. However, the claim that swappable internal batteries are a good solution, and an external battery is a bad solution is absurd. They're both equally bad solutions (or equally good solutions). You're simply used to doing it one way.
They really do need to up the battery life of the iPhone, because I have the iPhone 3G, and the battery life is terrible on it. The iPhone has so many features/programs, but they drain the battery power really quickly. I feel like 20%, while being beneficial, is still not sufficient. They need to do more in my opinion. For the time being, I went and bought myself an iPhone Battery Pack,which has more than doubled my iPhone battery's life. I wish the stock iPhones could hold a charge that long.
Outlets are not scarce -- not in airports and not on airplanes (even in coach).
I haven't found that to be true. I don't fly often, but on the airplanes I was on last month (four different models), none of them had outlets. It was hard to find outlets in the airport lounges too. Not only that, by the time I find one, I only manage about five minutes of charging at most.
They really do need to up the battery life of the iPhone, because I have the iPhone 3G, and the battery life is terrible on it. The iPhone has so many features/programs, but they drain the battery power really quickly. I feel like 20%, while being beneficial, is still not sufficient. They need to do more in my opinion. For the time being, I went and bought myself an iPhone Battery Pack,which has more than doubled my iPhone battery's life. I wish the stock iPhones could hold a charge that long.
I don't know of any highly featured smartphone that has great battery life. Most have worse.
Look at the Pre. They have a much smaller screen, so you would think they would have much better life, but it doesn't, it's much worse..
Compared to the now old 3G, it has 5 hours talk time compared to 5.5. 5 hours video compared to 7, and 12 hours music compared to 24.
The new 3Gs is better.
Palm used a smaller battery to get a smaller phone.
I don't know of any highly featured smartphone that has great battery life. Most have worse.
Look at the Pre. They have a much smaller screen, so you would think they would have much better life, but it doesn't, it's much worse..
Compared to the now old 3G, it has 5 hours talk time compared to 5.5. 5 hours video compared to 7, and 12 hours music compared to 24.
The new 3Gs is better.
Palm used a smaller battery to get a smaller phone.
The N97 is claiming 5.3 hours talk.
AnandTech has a comparison preview up. The Pre fares well against the iPhone, even beats in talk time, which is expected for a CDMA-based phone up against a GSM-based phone where both are running in 3G mode. It looks like the Pre also has truth in battery life times. The real comparison will be when a GSM/WCDMA Palm Pre comes out, but by then Palm should have made HW and OS refinements that will compensate for some of the network differences that give it a leg up right now.
AnandTech has a comparison preview up. The Pre fares well against the iPhone, even beats in talk time, which is expected for a CDMA-based phone up against a GSM-based phone where both are running in 3G mode. It looks like the Pre also has truth in battery life times. The real comparison will be when a GSM/WCDMA Palm Pre comes out, but by then Palm should have made HW and OS refinements that will compensate for some of the network differences that give it a leg up right now.
I've seen a couple of others that show the Pre with less talk time. Much less for everything else.
Do you have any links? I can?t find any other battery times.
I look forward to more current and future iPhone comparisons. It gets me that the iPhone has been lambasted for 2 years now for having a weak battery when it bests pretty much all smartphones, even many CDMA phones, in all the testing I?ve seen.
Do you have any links? I can?t find any other battery times.
I look forward to more current and future iPhone comparisons. It gets me that the iPhone has been lambasted for 2 years now for having a weak battery when it bests pretty much all smartphones, even many CDMA phones, in all the testing I?ve seen.
Remind me tomorrow. I've got to get to bed, it's 4:00 am.
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I don't know why this isn't brought up more. The iPhone is a truly large phone. My current phone is 10 x 45 x 110 mm. My next phone is about the same dimensions and has 3 band HSPA, GPS, BT, WiFI, FM, VOIP, VGA video camera and a huge battery. Now I like to wear tight jeans, as you'll all be pleased to know, and even I don't notice my phone my jeans, except when I sit down.
The iPhone is no bigger than most smartphones, and smaller than some.
We're all very happy to know that you think you're sexy.
That's ridiculous. (1) How often do you take 22-hour flights? (2) Even if/when you do, and assuming an aggressive 6 hours of battery life, don't you, according to your own argument, have to carry three extra batteries? (3) Why not just get an adapter for lounges, etc, since after all, you'll need it for your charger anyway, once you get to that country (or in transit)? (4) Why not just choose an airline that provides power outlets? (5) Why not just buy an external battery pack?
You don't travel do you? Everything is inconvenient when you travel. Got the charger in you carry on? What you stored your carry on? Oh you don't have the right physical adaptor? You can't find a powerpoint? I mean there are power points on the streets of any big city, right? But lets say you did, then you have to stand by the wall looking like an idiot for 30 minutes. And you're always on time for your flights and they arrive early mostly so you don't have to get into town to meet whoever or do whatever or catch your next flight.
But hell, you can charge on your plane. The new, modern plane that actually has power ports and you have a compatible cable. And that you've spent 3 to 4 times the cost of an economy ticket so you can fly business class, that's around $3000 more, to solve a $30 problem. And I fly often enough for it to be a problem.
Yes, I carry 3 actual batteries with me. They weigh about an ounce each. It's such a strain.
Get in line behind all the other Apple apologists making fools of themselves in this forum.
There are two small screws at the bottom of the case of the iPhone (and I imagine of the Touch as well). Remove the screws, and you can replace the non-soldered-in battery for a more powerful one when one comes out. These batteries, available from several vendors when they come out, are also much cheaper than the external batteries from companies like Palm for their own phones.
It takes a short time to do, and you only have to do it once as the batteries last a long time these days.
Thank you. My contract ends in September, and I certainly will.
It's not so simple in Apple's case. You gotta be Apple certified. It discourages vendors.
P.S. This one is mighty: "1600mAh Replacement Battery Pack for Apple iPhone 3G"
And I suppose that you have 4-5 extra batteries that you charge-up in advance for your Nokia so you can last a full 3 days without plugging in to the wall? You know as well as everyone else that there are power-outlets everywhere throughout a journey (even on some airplanes -- and certainly those that are used for long flights). How are extra internal batteries any different than extra external batteries? I would think that the external pack (which would get much longer battery-life than an internal battery) would be the perfect solution for a long trip. When I went to Europe a number of years ago, I bought an external battery for my 1Gen iPod Shuffle into which I could pop AAA batteries. How much better a solution was that than being able to access the internal battery to swap it out?
More junk to carry that is much bigger and heavier than extra internal batteries. It's very inefficient charging one battery from another, much of the power is lost in heat.
But the larger point is, why is having a sealed battery so inconvenient? What was benefit of it again? And I carry 3 batteries, not 4 or 5, they seem to last for a trip of 48 to 60 hours.
The iPhone is no bigger than most smartphones, and smaller than some.
We're all very happy to know that you think you're sexy.
No, its much bigger. The Nokia E55 is much smaller that an iPhone. Doesn't the fact that you think such a basic, concrete fact is not true cause you to question your attitude toward the iPhone, that maybe, it's a little irrational?
And there's nothing sexy about me in jeans.
That's ridiculous. (1) How often do you take 22-hour flights? (2) Even if/when you do, and assuming an aggressive 6 hours of battery life, don't you, according to your own argument, have to carry three extra batteries? (3) Why not just get an adapter for lounges, etc, since after all, you'll need it for your charger anyway, once you get to that country (or in transit)? (4) Why not just choose an airline that provides power outlets? (5) Why not just buy an external battery pack?
I find that the best solution for those long trips without a a power cable is my notebook?s battery. When my iPhone gets low I just plug it into my notebook via the 30-pin-to-USB cable and I get many, many charges off my MB?s battery.
The problem with Merdhead?s example is thatwhen you are waiting for flights/buses/trains you are often without many outlet choices. You may be waiting for others to finish up of have to go sit in some out of the way area to charge. I bring a Monster travel power strip that has 4 outlets on it. I can charge up my MacBook, my iPhone and my external iPhone battery at once while still having a forth for my digital camera or for the person I may ask to remove their plug so I plug in my power strip.
I don't know why this isn't brought up more. The iPhone is a truly large phone. My current phone is 10 x 45 x 110 mm. My next phone is about the same dimensions and has 3 band HSPA, GPS, BT, WiFI, FM, VOIP, VGA video camera and a huge battery. Now I like to wear tight jeans, as you'll all be pleased to know, and even I don't notice my phone my jeans, except when I sit down.
What kind of phone do you currently have? What phone will be your next one? I ask because for a smartphone with a 3? plus display the iPhone is not large at all.
You post makes no sense at all. None!
You haven't shown the advantage of having several rechargeable batteries as opposed to external ones. None!
Don't be childish here. If you have nothing useful to say, don't bother.
You're either being silly or you're delusional:
Being able to use your phone versus not being able to use your phone. Given that you cannot recharge, which is a common reality when you travel. Saying that you can recharge your iPhone is just not practical.
I find that the best solution for those long trips without a a power cable is my notebook’s battery. When my iPhone gets low I just plug it into my notebook via the 30-pin-to-USB cable and I get many, many charges off my MB’s battery.
The problem with Merdhead’s example is thatwhen you are waiting for flights/buses/trains you are often without many outlet choices. You may be waiting for others to finish up of have to go sit in some out of the way area to charge. I bring a Monster travel power strip that has 4 outlets on it. I can charge up my MacBook, my iPhone and my external iPhone battery at once while still having a forth for my digital camera or for the person I may ask to remove their plug so I plug in my power strip.
What kind of phone do you currently have? What phone will be your next one? I ask because for a smartphone with a 3” plus display the iPhone is not large at all.
The phone I'm getting is a Nokia E55. I wouldn't say that the iPhone is large for what it is, as you say, but it's a large phone in absolute terms. Having a small phone is very important if you don't have a handbag. And I don't have a handbag.
I might add that I travel only with hand luggage, even internationaly. It make a huge difference, but it means that anything you take with you is dead weight on your shoulder.
The phone I'm getting is a Nokia E55. I wouldn't say that the iPhone is large for what it is, as you say, but it's a large phone in absolute terms. Having a small phone is very important if you don't have a handbag. And I don't have a handbag.
I might add that I travel only with hand luggage, even internationaly. It make a huge difference, but it means that anything you take with you is dead weight on your shoulder.
Fair enough, but by that measure even your E55 is too large for some people, especially thought that don?t want to be tied to the internet constantly.
If you check the Nokia N97 with a 3.5? display the size and weight are more than iPhone. Though in Nokia?s defense, the aspect ratio on the N97 means that the area of the 16:9 display is larger than the iPhone?s 3:2 display ratio.
You don't travel do you? Everything is inconvenient when you travel. Got the charger in you carry on? What you stored your carry on? Oh you don't have the right physical adaptor? You can't find a powerpoint? I mean there are power points on the streets of any big city, right? But lets say you did, then you have to stand by the wall looking like an idiot for 30 minutes. And you're always on time for your flights and they arrive early mostly so you don't have to get into town to meet whoever or do whatever or catch your next flight.
But hell, you can charge on your plane. The new, modern plane that actually has power ports and you have a compatible cable. And that you've spent 3 to 4 times the cost of an economy ticket so you can fly business class, that's around $3000 more, to solve a $30 problem. And I fly often enough for it to be a problem.
Yes, I carry 3 actual batteries with me. They weigh about an ounce each. It's such a strain.
Get in line behind all the other Apple apologists making fools of themselves in this forum.
That's still not an answer.
You can do the same with the external units. They aren't much bigger, or heavier, cost about the same, or less, and they're less hassle.
That's still not an answer.
You can do the same with the external units. They aren't much bigger, or heavier, cost about the same, or less, and they're less hassle.
And, as previously mentioned over and over, one slightly larger and cheaper external can do the charge the same amount as several internals without needing to turn off the phone and take it apart. Plus, on a plane someone might think you are making a bomb and jump you.
You're either being silly or you're delusional:
Being able to use your phone versus not being able to use your phone. Given that you cannot recharge, which is a common reality when you travel. Saying that you can recharge your iPhone is just not practical.
You're the one here who isn't making any sense. You're thinking that your solution is better when it isn't.
Don't make the mistake to think that people who like the iPhone and who aren't having problems with it are fanboys or not thinking properly.
You're making up problems that exist for either an internal battery that can be replaced, or one that can use an external model. The external models do have the advantage of not requiring you to turn off your apps and phone, and they do recharge the battery pretty quickly, while allowing the use of the phone meanwhile.
For normal people, that is, people who don't make constant 22 hour flights, in other words 99.9999% of the population, the lack of an external battery is no problem at all.
I've had several smartphones with replaceable batteries, and never needed to use them. It's very rare that people do that.
This is something that you refuse to understand.
So don't get all emo on us while saying the we're the ones who are.
You don't like the phone, and that's fine. Just say so and leave it at that. But don't make up an issue that doesn't exist for the vast majority of users.
...
Why am I even talking to a guy that calls himself "shithead?"
As mel said, you have not demonstrated that internal batteries are superior to external batteries for long flights. Outlets are not scarce -- not in airports and not on airplanes (even in coach). Anyone who travels a lot to foreign countries has adapters for different outlet types. I believe that the current iPhone has a 1500 mAh battery; you can find external batteries that are anywhere from 3200 mAh to 5000 mAh, and some can be loaded with AAs. So your 3 replaceable internal batteries would be substituted for one external battery.
We can all agree that if the iPhone had a battery that was capable of 24 hours of video and/or talk that this would be best. However, the claim that swappable internal batteries are a good solution, and an external battery is a bad solution is absurd. They're both equally bad solutions (or equally good solutions). You're simply used to doing it one way.
Outlets are not scarce -- not in airports and not on airplanes (even in coach).
I haven't found that to be true. I don't fly often, but on the airplanes I was on last month (four different models), none of them had outlets. It was hard to find outlets in the airport lounges too. Not only that, by the time I find one, I only manage about five minutes of charging at most.
They really do need to up the battery life of the iPhone, because I have the iPhone 3G, and the battery life is terrible on it. The iPhone has so many features/programs, but they drain the battery power really quickly. I feel like 20%, while being beneficial, is still not sufficient. They need to do more in my opinion. For the time being, I went and bought myself an iPhone Battery Pack,which has more than doubled my iPhone battery's life. I wish the stock iPhones could hold a charge that long.
I don't know of any highly featured smartphone that has great battery life. Most have worse.
Look at the Pre. They have a much smaller screen, so you would think they would have much better life, but it doesn't, it's much worse..
Compared to the now old 3G, it has 5 hours talk time compared to 5.5. 5 hours video compared to 7, and 12 hours music compared to 24.
The new 3Gs is better.
Palm used a smaller battery to get a smaller phone.
The N97 is claiming 5.3 hours talk.
I don't know of any highly featured smartphone that has great battery life. Most have worse.
Look at the Pre. They have a much smaller screen, so you would think they would have much better life, but it doesn't, it's much worse..
Compared to the now old 3G, it has 5 hours talk time compared to 5.5. 5 hours video compared to 7, and 12 hours music compared to 24.
The new 3Gs is better.
Palm used a smaller battery to get a smaller phone.
The N97 is claiming 5.3 hours talk.
AnandTech has a comparison preview up. The Pre fares well against the iPhone, even beats in talk time, which is expected for a CDMA-based phone up against a GSM-based phone where both are running in 3G mode. It looks like the Pre also has truth in battery life times. The real comparison will be when a GSM/WCDMA Palm Pre comes out, but by then Palm should have made HW and OS refinements that will compensate for some of the network differences that give it a leg up right now.
AnandTech has a comparison preview up. The Pre fares well against the iPhone, even beats in talk time, which is expected for a CDMA-based phone up against a GSM-based phone where both are running in 3G mode. It looks like the Pre also has truth in battery life times. The real comparison will be when a GSM/WCDMA Palm Pre comes out, but by then Palm should have made HW and OS refinements that will compensate for some of the network differences that give it a leg up right now.
I've seen a couple of others that show the Pre with less talk time. Much less for everything else.
I've seen a couple of others that show the Pre with less talk time. Much less for everything else.
Do you have any links? I can?t find any other battery times.
I look forward to more current and future iPhone comparisons. It gets me that the iPhone has been lambasted for 2 years now for having a weak battery when it bests pretty much all smartphones, even many CDMA phones, in all the testing I?ve seen.
Do you have any links? I can?t find any other battery times.
I look forward to more current and future iPhone comparisons. It gets me that the iPhone has been lambasted for 2 years now for having a weak battery when it bests pretty much all smartphones, even many CDMA phones, in all the testing I?ve seen.
Remind me tomorrow. I've got to get to bed, it's 4:00 am.