The iPhone and iTouch is what we talking about here and neither got cheaper. If the 32GB SSD is cheaper than why is the 16GB and 8 GB the same price? You can't say the 32 iTouch is cheaper if it never existed before. Your reasoning once again makes no sense.
I have serious doubts that you can really be this obtuse. 32GB SSD was more than a $100 over 16GB SSD from 6 months ago. Unless Apple is losing profit the prices of SSD have dropped.
For 100 bucks, iPod touch with the 32GB model, gets a memory increase of 16GB versus the 8GB memory increase for the iPhone for that same 100 dollars.
in otherwords, 8GB FREE memory for the iPod Touch][/QUOTE]
Memory deals!! If we're talking memory deals the best is the incremental increase in the ATV - $100 only for an increase of 120GB (40 to 160GB)! $100 for 120 GBs- can't beat that!
Now if only I could do something with all that space.
This has nothing to do with an initial oversight or listening to customers demands. It is merely the natural projection of technology getting cheaper and small over time.
I disagree. If it was JUST the natural projection of technology and not at least in part, due to consumer demand, there is no reason for Apple to make these updates. They could just have waited to give the Touch 32 and/or 40G in the autumn when the natural revision of the iPod line occurs.
While the Touch is certainly very popular, especially here in Japan, I still think a lot of buyers have been hesitant to buy it due to the limited memory sizes.
The iPhone and iTouch is what we talking about here and neither got cheaper. If the 32GB SSD is cheaper than why is the 16GB and 8 GB the same price? You can't say the 32 iTouch is cheaper if it never existed before. Your reasoning once again makes no sense.
Don't forget that the iPhone is a phone and have built in camera that might offset the price of the 8GB of extra memory the touch have.
I have serious doubts that you can really be this obtuse. 32GB SSD was more than a $100 over 16GB SSD from 6 months ago. Unless Apple is losing profit the prices of SSD have dropped.
And that's why the price on the 16 and 8 GB did not drop!
I have serious doubts that you can really be this obtuse. 32GB SSD was more than a $100 over 16GB SSD from 6 months ago. Unless Apple is losing profit the prices of SSD have dropped.
That has to be one of the daftest statements ever made here. Do you not understand how nothing got cheaper in the product line. The 32GB is a new iTouch. The 16 and 8 GBs are over 6 months old- where is the price reduction?????
As much as I love apple I wish they would roll out these products to all the countries at the same time.
In the UK we have no update as of today! But what do I care my iPhone is as good as new and I am not going to upgrade for at least a year!
Yeah - I wonder why that is? I speculated over on my blog http://www.corpmac.co.uk about this - they simply may be a delay in updating the UK store - or more seriously, we know that the phone hasn't been selling as well in the UK and Europe as predicted - so they may be delaying the 16Gb model's introduction here to allow inventory of the 8Gb model to clear down a bit. I hope that's not the case.
Like people in the US even can afford an iPhone these days
To some extent I agree with Bobo. But I also think that 32G may have existed 6 months ago but was too expensive to incorporate. However, if 32G got cheaper, certainly 16G and 8G got cheaper as well and this just means that Apple is making even more profits off the Touch!
Good for them I say, but personally, I'm pretty sure when autumn comes, the 8G vill be gone, and 16, 32 and maybe 48G will be there but at a 100 dollars less each...
Do you not understand how nothing got cheaper in the product line. The 32GB is a new iTouch. The 16 and 8 GBs are over 6 months old- where is the price reduction?????
My reply was to someone who was excited about the 32GB capacity option. Your reading comprehension is either lower than normal or you are purposely altering what I stated for some secret agenda.
CoolHandPete wrote, "I'm still glad they responded to the apparently strong voice of the consumers who've asked for this (me included)."
Solipsism wtrote, "This has nothing to do with an initial oversight or listening to customers demands. It is merely the natural projection of technology getting cheaper and small[er] over time."
Clearly implying that a 32GB SSD iPhone/Touch was either too expensive and/or not physically possible within the constraints of the device, not that they listened to the customer as an after thought and rushed to get in their. I never stated that iPhone/Touch have become cheaper. I never stated that Apple is required to lower prices of its current product line the moment technology becomes cheaper.
If you have trouble reading my posts then I suggest you ignore them. I can not cater my responses to the least common denominator; I simply don't have the patience for it.
£329 (inc VAT) for the 16GB iPhone here in the UK. That's $650. Ouch!
Hey, it's not our fault you live in a country with 17.5% VAT. Without VAT, it's a little over $550, so it's not that far off from the US price, only 10% higher. Talk to your government if you feel ripped off. Or buy it on eBay, where you can probably get it for about US retail price and there's no VAT.
Good for them I say, but personally, I'm pretty sure when autumn comes, the 8G vill be gone, and 16, 32 and maybe 48G will be there but at a 100 dollars less each...
I'd say by June at the latest. This new $500 iPod is a bit much to touch- no pun intended.
My reply was to someone who was excited about the 32GB capacity option. Your reading comprehension is either lower than normal or you are purposely altering what I stated for some secret agenda.
If you have trouble reading my posts then I suggest you ignore them. I can not cater my responses to the least common denominator; I simply don't have the patience for it.
Hey, it's not our fault you live in a country with 17.5% VAT. Without VAT, it's a little over $550, so it's not that far off from the US price, only 10% higher. Talk to your government if you feel ripped off. Or buy it on eBay, where you can probably get it for about US retail price and there's no VAT.
True that, but that also means that the average European (average EU VAT range between 15-25%) get more than 10% ripped off by Apple!
Apple is getting there for me. When the iPhone came out I looked at that 8 gigs and the use of OS X, thought about the potential of developers jumping on an SDK and figured 8 gigs wouldn't make it. 16 gigs now look like the minimum with the SDK arriving this month. When you think of potential apps that will arrive this year along with the other stuff that will now be in a fully used iPhone memory is going to be the key.
True that, but that also means that the average European (average EU VAT range between 15-25%) get more than 10% ripped off by Apple!
That's not the whole story. The higher cost of living in the EU means that the cost of distribution is higher, then there's the warranty work and so on.
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The iPhone and iTouch is what we talking about here and neither got cheaper. If the 32GB SSD is cheaper than why is the 16GB and 8 GB the same price? You can't say the 32 iTouch is cheaper if it never existed before. Your reasoning once again makes no sense.
I have serious doubts that you can really be this obtuse. 32GB SSD was more than a $100 over 16GB SSD from 6 months ago. Unless Apple is losing profit the prices of SSD have dropped.
For 100 bucks, iPod touch with the 32GB model, gets a memory increase of 16GB versus the 8GB memory increase for the iPhone for that same 100 dollars.
in otherwords, 8GB FREE memory for the iPod Touch]
Memory deals!! If we're talking memory deals the best is the incremental increase in the ATV - $100 only for an increase of 120GB (40 to 160GB)! $100 for 120 GBs- can't beat that!
Now if only I could do something with all that space.
This has nothing to do with an initial oversight or listening to customers demands. It is merely the natural projection of technology getting cheaper and small over time.
I disagree. If it was JUST the natural projection of technology and not at least in part, due to consumer demand, there is no reason for Apple to make these updates. They could just have waited to give the Touch 32 and/or 40G in the autumn when the natural revision of the iPod line occurs.
While the Touch is certainly very popular, especially here in Japan, I still think a lot of buyers have been hesitant to buy it due to the limited memory sizes.
The iPhone and iTouch is what we talking about here and neither got cheaper. If the 32GB SSD is cheaper than why is the 16GB and 8 GB the same price? You can't say the 32 iTouch is cheaper if it never existed before. Your reasoning once again makes no sense.
Don't forget that the iPhone is a phone and have built in camera that might offset the price of the 8GB of extra memory the touch have.
I have serious doubts that you can really be this obtuse. 32GB SSD was more than a $100 over 16GB SSD from 6 months ago. Unless Apple is losing profit the prices of SSD have dropped.
And that's why the price on the 16 and 8 GB did not drop!
It only dropped for 32 GB and not 16 nor 8GB!
Well, 270,000 iPhone in the first weekend in the US alone makes Apple care.
Like people in the US even can afford an iPhone these days
I have serious doubts that you can really be this obtuse. 32GB SSD was more than a $100 over 16GB SSD from 6 months ago. Unless Apple is losing profit the prices of SSD have dropped.
That has to be one of the daftest statements ever made here. Do you not understand how nothing got cheaper in the product line. The 32GB is a new iTouch. The 16 and 8 GBs are over 6 months old- where is the price reduction?????
As much as I love apple I wish they would roll out these products to all the countries at the same time.
In the UK we have no update as of today! But what do I care my iPhone is as good as new and I am not going to upgrade for at least a year!
Yeah - I wonder why that is? I speculated over on my blog http://www.corpmac.co.uk about this - they simply may be a delay in updating the UK store - or more seriously, we know that the phone hasn't been selling as well in the UK and Europe as predicted - so they may be delaying the 16Gb model's introduction here to allow inventory of the 8Gb model to clear down a bit. I hope that's not the case.
Alan.
Like people in the US even can afford an iPhone these days
To some extent I agree with Bobo. But I also think that 32G may have existed 6 months ago but was too expensive to incorporate. However, if 32G got cheaper, certainly 16G and 8G got cheaper as well and this just means that Apple is making even more profits off the Touch!
Good for them I say, but personally, I'm pretty sure when autumn comes, the 8G vill be gone, and 16, 32 and maybe 48G will be there but at a 100 dollars less each...
Gah, why did they have to raise the price 100 bucks, faaaaaaaaaaaack.
You are not very observant are you?
Haha yes it is a NEW model at a higher price! Not the SAME model at a higher price...LOL
Do you not understand how nothing got cheaper in the product line. The 32GB is a new iTouch. The 16 and 8 GBs are over 6 months old- where is the price reduction?????
My reply was to someone who was excited about the 32GB capacity option. Your reading comprehension is either lower than normal or you are purposely altering what I stated for some secret agenda.Clearly implying that a 32GB SSD iPhone/Touch was either too expensive and/or not physically possible within the constraints of the device, not that they listened to the customer as an after thought and rushed to get in their. I never stated that iPhone/Touch have become cheaper. I never stated that Apple is required to lower prices of its current product line the moment technology becomes cheaper.
If you have trouble reading my posts then I suggest you ignore them. I can not cater my responses to the least common denominator; I simply don't have the patience for it.
£329 (inc VAT) for the 16GB iPhone here in the UK. That's $650. Ouch!
Hey, it's not our fault you live in a country with 17.5% VAT. Without VAT, it's a little over $550, so it's not that far off from the US price, only 10% higher. Talk to your government if you feel ripped off. Or buy it on eBay, where you can probably get it for about US retail price and there's no VAT.
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Good for them I say, but personally, I'm pretty sure when autumn comes, the 8G vill be gone, and 16, 32 and maybe 48G will be there but at a 100 dollars less each...
I'd say by June at the latest. This new $500 iPod is a bit much to touch- no pun intended.
My reply was to someone who was excited about the 32GB capacity option. Your reading comprehension is either lower than normal or you are purposely altering what I stated for some secret agenda.
If you have trouble reading my posts then I suggest you ignore them. I can not cater my responses to the least common denominator; I simply don't have the patience for it.
You're much too paranoid, your majesty.
Hey, it's not our fault you live in a country with 17.5% VAT. Without VAT, it's a little over $550, so it's not that far off from the US price, only 10% higher. Talk to your government if you feel ripped off. Or buy it on eBay, where you can probably get it for about US retail price and there's no VAT.
True that, but that also means that the average European (average EU VAT range between 15-25%) get more than 10% ripped off by Apple!
True that, but that also means that the average European (average EU VAT range between 15-25%) get more than 10% ripped off by Apple!
That's not the whole story. The higher cost of living in the EU means that the cost of distribution is higher, then there's the warranty work and so on.
Are there Penryn-based notebooks in mass production? Apple seems to delay updates until they have enough chips to supply their demand.
Why would you use the term delay?