This is exactly what I've been saying. The Apple Tablet (iPad) needs to cater to the business crowd if it is to succeed. Glad to see Apple agrees. The following article expresses similar thoughts and then some:
Hardware-wise, aside fromt he beauty of its design, it's not really a game-changer. It's a slightly reworked iPod Touch. Which in and of itself a successful design.
Software-wise, it's a TOTAL game-changer. Developers will make this thing shine.
And did I mention it looks absolutely gorgeous?
IMO, it is fairly ugly. The bezel is MUCH wider than it should be.
And there's no new software, just a new screen size for the same old crippled OS.
But I hope that I am truly myopic, and that developers get all excited about a 4:3 medium-sized screen. I hope you are right. But small screened real computers have existed for years, so I don't see the innovative nature of the device.
Interesting article. It doesn't have a camera (which you would expect if they were targeting it at kids/teenagers) but it does have iWork. Maybe they are sick of people treating their hard work as toys.
They tried that many years ago, positioning the Mac as a real business computer. They did it at the dawn of "multi-media" computers and the rise of the home computer user. They lost in both market segments.
I guess history will repeat itself if that truly is their strategy.
The 'Pad is a toy. It is not suited for heavy-duty use. I think that emphasizing business use is a huge mistake. I was very surprised when iWork was emphasized, given that the device has dodgy input and output, and no ability to multitask.
you don't even know what multi task means
time to shut up and learn about a product your whing about
explain exactly asshole what mutli tasking things you would do on the ipad
As soon as a large-screen version of Citrix is available, this will fit right into the corporate environment - plus for bedside care in hospitals, carrying around a warehouse, etc.
I have heard a rumor (someone I know supposedly saw it first hand in his hospital) that there is a company testing iPads as data entry devices for an electronic health record. If true, and if actually a good product, unlike most EHRs, this could be a huge market that is currently devoid of a good solution.
I also know a guy who developed an app that is essentially a questionnaire (already validated in the literature but difficult to score) which gets scored on the fly for a 'vision related depression score.' I do not think he has had many takers as the iPhone, for which the app is written, is just too small device for patient data self entry - if people are depressed bc their vision they are usually seeing very poorly... The iPad changes the equation for his and similar apps. the iPad is a perfect device for administering questionnaires to patients, who knows who else, with on the fly interpretation/scoring of the results.
Anyway, I see lots of niche markets for the iPad that individually are only so big, but collectively are a huge opportunity for both app developers and the AAPL investors...
And from what high authority are you carrying the message from?
You are not the messenger. You profess to be the authority.
Your thinking is defective. One need not cite authority for opinions. One might cite authority for facts, but those are a different animal.
Just for fun, Google up the phrase "argument from authority" so that you'll get some insight into what I'm talking about. But don't blindly believe the
website, no matter how authoritative you believe it to be. Instead, evaluate the message and try to figure out the meaning. Maybe then you'll understand your mistake.
This needs an usb port without a card adapter. This needs to access users's files, movies, pictures from usb storage devices and must also write on them. That's one of the main use that people do of their netbooks. And also, it needed an isight from day 1 since people mainly buy netbooks for messaging purposes too.
It has a USB port without a card adapter.
Suggest you visit Apple's iPad site.
How anybody would think that you couldn't access or write to external files boggles the mind.
I think by projecting your perceived shortcomings onto all of us in regards to what the iPhone OS can and can't do is where most of these arguments fail.
Are you giving some variant of Canned Answer No. 489: Nobody else cares? If not, I don't understand your statement. If so, I'd be surprised if you were right.
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Originally Posted by Motlee
Maybe you don't get the most out of YOUR Apple devices, but I do, in which case I wonder why you or anyone else on here bashing Apple products continues to buy them.
Yeah? You listen to Pandora or the other 100 music apps while surfing the web? Your Apple device is capable of it. Are you sure that you are getting the most out of the device?
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Originally Posted by Motlee
I am absolutely positive that there are other products that may fully meet all of your porn-watching needs (flash).
Cool. Two canned answers in one sentence! "Nobody else cares. You are a deviant in your desires."
This is exactly what I've been saying. The Apple Tablet (iPad) needs to cater to the business crowd if it is to succeed. Glad to see Apple agrees. The following article expresses similar thoughts and then some:
I disagree, this is a home device for those who don't want a computer in the living room, but do wanna browse, listen to music and check their email while reading the odd article.
It will have a niche market in business, that it's not aimed squarely at the business market is it's main strength in marketing, and why all others have failed.
Your thinking is defective. One need not cite authority for opinions. One might cite authority for facts, but those are a different animal.
Just for fun, Google up the phrase "argument from authority" so that you'll get some insight into what I'm talking about. But don't blindly believe the
website, no matter how authoritative you believe it to be. Instead, evaluate the message and try to figure out the meaning. Maybe then you'll understand your mistake.
Which by applying your logic laterally means we should all at least try the iPad hands-on before we dismiss it as unsuitable? As you are clearly trying to get people to do.
People can at least buy it on the Apple 14 day money back return and make their mind up at home right? Your not suggesting that business and home users shouldn't even try it - risk free are you ?
Have you ever thought about the MILLIONS of execs who currently have laptops who may better enjoy a Desktop and an iPad - or even those who have laptops and don't want to take them on long trips or home every night?
Are you claiming that this device is suitable as a laptop replacement? That is a novel claim. Most everyone else seems to deny it.
IMO, it is fairly ugly. The bezel is MUCH wider than it should be.
And there's no new software, just a new screen size for the same old crippled OS.
But I hope that I am truly myopic, and that developers get all excited about a 4:3 medium-sized screen. I hope you are right. But small screened real computers have existed for years, so I don't see the innovative nature of the device.
Oh dear.
How would you hold it in the cup of your hand without obscuring the screen if the bezel was any smaller?
It has a brand new version of iLife, and a new OS, with version 4 obviously on the way.
I'm sorry you don't see the innovative nature of a device designed for a very focussed set of tasks that starts up in 16 seconds and has a ten hour battery life, weight one and a half pounds, will drop into your man bag, is smaller than a laptop and replaces the laptop/netbook for those that don't need the additional functionality, all for a price $10 more than the kindle.
IMO, it is fairly ugly. The bezel is MUCH wider than it should be.
You have to be able to hold the device comfortably without tapping onto touch-enabled areas and inadvertently activating something. You don't hold the device with your fingertips. This isn't an iPhone. The bezel area seems just right for a comfortable grip.
Are you claiming that this device is suitable as a laptop replacement? That is a novel claim. Most everyone else seems to deny it.
Nope, that isn't what he's claiming. He's suggesting that it's a great device for those who don't need a laptop and carry it around everywhere only to check email and do the occasional bit of surfing. Some people don't need a laptop on the road, but could with being in touch online.
Why not consider the message, and not the messenger?
Because in this case, the message is silly.
I run a software development company. In the office, we have all of the tech we need to execute our work. Out of the office, we use ultralight portables (primarily MB Airs). We use them because they're the best combination of form factor and functionality in an OS X environment. That's worth the extra cost to us. We use them for:
1. Presentations (via Keynote)
2. Doc workup and printing (via Pages)
3. Email
4. Web
5. Various media playing
6. Remote server admin
So to us, the iPad looks like a possible replacement for our Airs, at a far more attractive price. As long as the OS allows document export (to PDF, PPT, DOC), wireless printing, VPN and VOIP (which through various apps, it does), it will be extremely useful to us.
The one remaining issue, for us, is the virtual keyboard. If this really works, we'll be completely sold. If not, and we have to tote a BT keyboard around (or the kb dock), it'll be harder to swallow. But that's the only potential sticking point.
And the e-reader looks excellent, which is another plus for road warriors, which we are. All in all, an extremely promising business package.
Edit: And we don't care about Flash; in fact, all of our portables use ClickToFlash to get rid of it. Most of the substantive web is available without it, and giving up Hulu isn't exactly a deal-breaker. For sites that rely on it, which aren't terribly important in the scheme of things (to us, anyway), we're happy to wait on HTML5.
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Does the author of this article know how difficult it is to actually point with a laser printer? I mean, those things are heavy man!
EDIT: I misread, it's virtual. That would be fine.
Genius
Has it escaped your notice that this is not a netbook? Perhaps the lack of keyboard is a clue?
Yeah. To imagine that it is as capable as a netbook will lead to disappointment.
If one conceives of it as a big iPhone without the phone it is perfect in every way.
http://www.alltabletnews.com/2010/01...ess-customers/
Yes.
Hardware-wise, aside fromt he beauty of its design, it's not really a game-changer. It's a slightly reworked iPod Touch. Which in and of itself a successful design.
Software-wise, it's a TOTAL game-changer. Developers will make this thing shine.
And did I mention it looks absolutely gorgeous?
IMO, it is fairly ugly. The bezel is MUCH wider than it should be.
And there's no new software, just a new screen size for the same old crippled OS.
But I hope that I am truly myopic, and that developers get all excited about a 4:3 medium-sized screen. I hope you are right. But small screened real computers have existed for years, so I don't see the innovative nature of the device.
Interesting article. It doesn't have a camera (which you would expect if they were targeting it at kids/teenagers) but it does have iWork. Maybe they are sick of people treating their hard work as toys.
They tried that many years ago, positioning the Mac as a real business computer. They did it at the dawn of "multi-media" computers and the rise of the home computer user. They lost in both market segments.
I guess history will repeat itself if that truly is their strategy.
The 'Pad is a toy. It is not suited for heavy-duty use. I think that emphasizing business use is a huge mistake. I was very surprised when iWork was emphasized, given that the device has dodgy input and output, and no ability to multitask.
you don't even know what multi task means
time to shut up and learn about a product your whing about
explain exactly asshole what mutli tasking things you would do on the ipad
exactly
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I also know a guy who developed an app that is essentially a questionnaire (already validated in the literature but difficult to score) which gets scored on the fly for a 'vision related depression score.' I do not think he has had many takers as the iPhone, for which the app is written, is just too small device for patient data self entry - if people are depressed bc their vision they are usually seeing very poorly... The iPad changes the equation for his and similar apps. the iPad is a perfect device for administering questionnaires to patients, who knows who else, with on the fly interpretation/scoring of the results.
Anyway, I see lots of niche markets for the iPad that individually are only so big, but collectively are a huge opportunity for both app developers and the AAPL investors...
And from what high authority are you carrying the message from?
You are not the messenger. You profess to be the authority.
Your thinking is defective. One need not cite authority for opinions. One might cite authority for facts, but those are a different animal.
Just for fun, Google up the phrase "argument from authority" so that you'll get some insight into what I'm talking about. But don't blindly believe the
website, no matter how authoritative you believe it to be. Instead, evaluate the message and try to figure out the meaning. Maybe then you'll understand your mistake.
This needs an usb port without a card adapter. This needs to access users's files, movies, pictures from usb storage devices and must also write on them. That's one of the main use that people do of their netbooks. And also, it needed an isight from day 1 since people mainly buy netbooks for messaging purposes too.
It has a USB port without a card adapter.
Suggest you visit Apple's iPad site.
How anybody would think that you couldn't access or write to external files boggles the mind.
The least you could do "Prince" is time the thing yourself, before claiming under 15 seconds. The iPhone has a stopwatch you know.
16.5 seconds. I timed it.
It's also pretty easy to use the clock on the YouTube video to determine the time.
I think by projecting your perceived shortcomings onto all of us in regards to what the iPhone OS can and can't do is where most of these arguments fail.
Are you giving some variant of Canned Answer No. 489: Nobody else cares? If not, I don't understand your statement. If so, I'd be surprised if you were right.
Maybe you don't get the most out of YOUR Apple devices, but I do, in which case I wonder why you or anyone else on here bashing Apple products continues to buy them.
Yeah? You listen to Pandora or the other 100 music apps while surfing the web? Your Apple device is capable of it. Are you sure that you are getting the most out of the device?
I am absolutely positive that there are other products that may fully meet all of your porn-watching needs (flash).
Cool. Two canned answers in one sentence! "Nobody else cares. You are a deviant in your desires."
This is exactly what I've been saying. The Apple Tablet (iPad) needs to cater to the business crowd if it is to succeed. Glad to see Apple agrees. The following article expresses similar thoughts and then some:
http://www.alltabletnews.com/2010/01...ess-customers/
I disagree, this is a home device for those who don't want a computer in the living room, but do wanna browse, listen to music and check their email while reading the odd article.
It will have a niche market in business, that it's not aimed squarely at the business market is it's main strength in marketing, and why all others have failed.
So how do you like yours? I'm still waiting to get mine.
Your thinking is defective. One need not cite authority for opinions. One might cite authority for facts, but those are a different animal.
Just for fun, Google up the phrase "argument from authority" so that you'll get some insight into what I'm talking about. But don't blindly believe the
website, no matter how authoritative you believe it to be. Instead, evaluate the message and try to figure out the meaning. Maybe then you'll understand your mistake.
Which by applying your logic laterally means we should all at least try the iPad hands-on before we dismiss it as unsuitable? As you are clearly trying to get people to do.
People can at least buy it on the Apple 14 day money back return and make their mind up at home right? Your not suggesting that business and home users shouldn't even try it - risk free are you ?
Have you ever thought about the MILLIONS of execs who currently have laptops who may better enjoy a Desktop and an iPad - or even those who have laptops and don't want to take them on long trips or home every night?
Are you claiming that this device is suitable as a laptop replacement? That is a novel claim. Most everyone else seems to deny it.
IMO, it is fairly ugly. The bezel is MUCH wider than it should be.
And there's no new software, just a new screen size for the same old crippled OS.
But I hope that I am truly myopic, and that developers get all excited about a 4:3 medium-sized screen. I hope you are right. But small screened real computers have existed for years, so I don't see the innovative nature of the device.
Oh dear.
How would you hold it in the cup of your hand without obscuring the screen if the bezel was any smaller?
It has a brand new version of iLife, and a new OS, with version 4 obviously on the way.
I'm sorry you don't see the innovative nature of a device designed for a very focussed set of tasks that starts up in 16 seconds and has a ten hour battery life, weight one and a half pounds, will drop into your man bag, is smaller than a laptop and replaces the laptop/netbook for those that don't need the additional functionality, all for a price $10 more than the kindle.
IMO, it is fairly ugly. The bezel is MUCH wider than it should be.
You have to be able to hold the device comfortably without tapping onto touch-enabled areas and inadvertently activating something. You don't hold the device with your fingertips. This isn't an iPhone. The bezel area seems just right for a comfortable grip.
Are you claiming that this device is suitable as a laptop replacement? That is a novel claim. Most everyone else seems to deny it.
Nope, that isn't what he's claiming. He's suggesting that it's a great device for those who don't need a laptop and carry it around everywhere only to check email and do the occasional bit of surfing. Some people don't need a laptop on the road, but could with being in touch online.
Why not consider the message, and not the messenger?
Because in this case, the message is silly.
I run a software development company. In the office, we have all of the tech we need to execute our work. Out of the office, we use ultralight portables (primarily MB Airs). We use them because they're the best combination of form factor and functionality in an OS X environment. That's worth the extra cost to us. We use them for:
1. Presentations (via Keynote)
2. Doc workup and printing (via Pages)
3. Email
4. Web
5. Various media playing
6. Remote server admin
So to us, the iPad looks like a possible replacement for our Airs, at a far more attractive price. As long as the OS allows document export (to PDF, PPT, DOC), wireless printing, VPN and VOIP (which through various apps, it does), it will be extremely useful to us.
The one remaining issue, for us, is the virtual keyboard. If this really works, we'll be completely sold. If not, and we have to tote a BT keyboard around (or the kb dock), it'll be harder to swallow. But that's the only potential sticking point.
And the e-reader looks excellent, which is another plus for road warriors, which we are. All in all, an extremely promising business package.
Edit: And we don't care about Flash; in fact, all of our portables use ClickToFlash to get rid of it. Most of the substantive web is available without it, and giving up Hulu isn't exactly a deal-breaker. For sites that rely on it, which aren't terribly important in the scheme of things (to us, anyway), we're happy to wait on HTML5.